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My 03 Max vs. Stang GT (track vid)

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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 12:06 AM
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My 03 Max vs. Stang GT (track vid)

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My bf finally got this off his comcorder. I ran a 14.9 @ 92 on this pass, he ran like 4 thousandths faster, but at 93mph.

Mines a bone stock 03 Auto, his was a 96 GT 5 speed with a catback.
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 09:30 AM
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Good vid. I've been to milan a few times. I've always trapped low there for some reason. You'd probably trap 93 or 94mph at stanton or us131.
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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cool vid, you got him at the tree.
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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96 GTs are slow...good kill.
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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i like the fact that his gt got beat by a grocery getter i love to pick on those guys, they don't know what hit them sometimes
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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lol nice drivin. good kill.
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 10:44 PM
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nice run...
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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14.5 with just a catback on those GTs r pretty quick then, since stock, they're low 15s ?

regardless, u both had an extra passenger......

maybe u coulda pulled 14.7s without passenger as your personal best? =)

what kinda 60ft did u have to get 14.9s?
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 06:37 AM
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14.5 with just a catback on those GTs r pretty quick then, since stock, they're low 15s ?

regardless, u both had an extra passenger......

maybe u coulda pulled 14.7s without passenger as your personal best? =)

what kinda 60ft did u have to get 14.9s?
when does 4 thousandths from 14.9=14.5
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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He ran a 14.893 @ 93mph to my 14.93 @ 92mph, thus 4 thousandths faster, not 4 tenths. He beat us by .012 seconds, he literally was ahead by inches at the line. If it wasnt for the crapomatic 3rd gear I would have beat him.

And that was my bf driving. I was taping on that run. We raced that guy a couple times and each time we beat him, but it was mostly because of RT. My bf's RT on that run was like .600, and the other 2 were .506 & .575. All the runs were with no track mods done at all, one passenger, and 1/4 tank of gas.

I'm sure it'll run 14.7's with some cool air (it was 75* btw) and a little weight loss. I now have an intake and it seems like it runs a litte quicker now with 30k miles on it.
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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Nice vid..........
Old Jan 17, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxceler8

I'm sure it'll run 14.7's with some cool air (it was 75* btw) and a little weight loss.
I'm sure as well. (see sig)
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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cool vid. surprised you didnt take him by more. i've wasted mid 90's GT's at the track... and also taken a few 02/03 GT 5 speeds... but that was a very cool vid!
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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looks like he took u at the last second?
Old Jan 30, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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downloading this mustang kill video now ! who is the better driver you or your bf ?
Old Jan 30, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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Thanks for all the positive input guys. I enjoy taking it to the track, but haven't been really at all lately, because, let's face it, there's only so much a stock car can do, and after that it's kinda pointless. And would love to get a few minor mods on it, but it's been having some electrical hijinks lately so kinda don't wanna mess with it. Actually, I'm kinda working on getting a second, fun car that I could do more stuff to, and not fear losing reliability like I would my Max, and be faster also.

Caesar...my bf is by far the better driver (imagine that!)..........on the track. He's been doing it a lot longer than I have and knows the quirks of my car.....how it handles (torque steer, or hop, etc.) when the light goes green, and the shift points which I don't quite have down yet. He also tends to get better reaction times also which I'm sure as you know, is key.

Maybe I should take her just a couple more times, just to get some more vids, since there aren't very many.
Old Jan 30, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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nice kill, he definitely got tree'd. i'm surprised he started to walk you at the end, typically the non-pi 4.6s aren't top end cars. my '98gt went 14.5 at close to 97 all stock except for hi-flow cats, but it wasn't a top end car at all.
Old Jan 30, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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yeah, it looks as though the mustang would have owned from a 3rd gear highway roll judging by how much it caught up in that gear.
Old Jan 30, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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First gear takes off nicely......second is okaayyy......and then here comes third.... It's so frustrating to have it nailed all the way and it doesn't make a difference. Advantage 5-speed Stang for that I guess. grr
Old Jan 30, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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This is the driver (her bf)

The Mustang with stock gears has the gearing advantage over the 1/4 because it can wind out 3rd, but once it goes into 4th her Max *should* pull ahead, or at least not get pulled anymore. I'm sure if her Max was a 6 speed it would have walked that particular GT from start to finish, but that damn 3rd gear just sucks ***, and I can tell. Its like damn this things pretty fast, then it goes into 3rd and you're like wait....nevermind.
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 05:58 AM
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this is true. thats the "fun" in stock geared mustang drag racing, you only get to use 3 gears.
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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he beat you......what are you talking abuot?
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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so 2001 5 speed could have taken him?
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JaMdMax97
he beat you......what are you talking abuot?

Where did I ever say I beat him?
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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I don't get it. Shouldn't RWD own you on the launch? The entire race feels like it should've been the exact opposite.
Old Feb 2, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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the Mustang got tree'd, which is why it got owned at launch. Reaction is one key factor on who gets to the finish line first, even if its a split second.
Old Feb 2, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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Mustang could've got a better launch. The VQ definately gave the V8 a run for its money. You saw his face in the middle of the vid, he was like WTF!!!
Old Feb 3, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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what was your 60ft?

when i had my '98 gt with stock gears (2.73s) i couldn't for the life of me pull 60fts better than 2.2x's. My averages were in the 2.3 range, including almost all of my best runs. Guys with 3.27s can pull 2.0s all day long, but I tried every method possible to get good launches. It was either sliiiiiiiiiiiip, BOG. Or pop! BOG! Usually a little tirespin was the best bet. A set of 4.10 gears remedied that problem relatively quickly.
Old Feb 4, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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My 94 GT was the same way with the stock gears. Bog or spin, especially with street tires. The non-PI 4.6 is even worse though, because if you do bog it doesnt have the low end tq to recover quickly from it.

I'll look for the slips from that day and see exactly what we both ran.
Old Feb 4, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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It was a stupid move by Ford to give them 2.73s in the first place. F-bodies, the closest competition, had 3.42 limited slip for the same model year, not to mention 1.1L more of displacement. You don't give your muscle car such an handicap right off the factory floor.
Old Feb 8, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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Yeah well, everyone knows that LS1/2/6 > *, so Ford decided to market towards the fairer sex with the 4.6's.
Old Feb 15, 2005 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jtkz13
My 94 GT was the same way with the stock gears. Bog or spin, especially with street tires. The non-PI 4.6 is even worse though, because if you do bog it doesnt have the low end tq to recover quickly from it.

I'll look for the slips from that day and see exactly what we both ran.
Lol, common misconception that everyone thinks RWD is God's gift to good 60 foots. The suspension and powerband plays a strong contributing factor as well. On regular street radials, I was pulling better 60 foots with my old Civic (2.11). One, because it was all motor so I could manipulate the throttle to minimize bogging in case my revs were too low. On my turbo car, the single plate clutch doesn't allow too much slipping so there's a very delicate line between bogging or blowing the tires off. Plus the turbo is large so if I bog, recovery time is extensive. Unless I convert to automatic, I'll never run on anything but a biaply based cheater slick or E.T. street.

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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by xlcrew
i like the fact that his gt got beat by a grocery getter i love to pick on those guys, they don't know what hit them sometimes
These grocery getters are coming out of the factory with serious horsepower. My buddy's 2004 Accord V6 6-speed went 13.93 @ 99mph. That was at full weight with leather, navigation sytem, etc. AEM V2 was the only mod and it ran on 26' M/T's. I'm certain if the clutch was beefier and the slicks were a little shorter, it would have went mid 13's because all I could muster was a 1.98 60'. The clutch just couldn't hold a 5,500 rpm side step.

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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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I remember that thread on V6p.net, thats pretty impressive.

And I assume you have a Supra? Buy yeah rwd doesnt always = great launches. On street tires mine is very hard to launch because I put on lowering springs which inhibit weight transfer, and my car is very front-heavy, so you need all the weight transfer you can get.
Old Feb 16, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Sample a biaply tire. Steel belted radials would be an afterthought.
Old Feb 16, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JClaw
It was a stupid move by Ford to give them 2.73s in the first place. F-bodies, the closest competition, had 3.42 limited slip for the same model year, not to mention 1.1L more of displacement. You don't give your muscle car such an handicap right off the factory floor.
4.10s fixed that problem pretty quick. of course, combine them with a 3.37 first gear and you've got about 15 feet of useable first gear in daily driving.
Old Feb 16, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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Yeah, but that 15ft is dang fun. lol

Thats why I went with 3.73's, 4.10's are brutal on the launch, but its alot of shifting.
Old Feb 16, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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I'd think that mustangs putting down ALOT of power yet still street driven would even lower it to 3.55.
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