Well, the car finally somewhat approached what it was capable of, or maybe I am just driving it better. Either way, I got a 14.82 and 14.84, the last run was with a CEL on and red lighted at 15.01.
I posted 60' times of 2.162 and 2.183, respectively. So it appears the timing advance did help some. My 60's were much better. My previous best 60' was 2.23.

14.82
93.16 mph

14.84
93.00 mph

I know this thing has 14.7's in it. All 3 runs were with the 18's on it.

 

Nice work, I'm jealous of those 60' times.

 

Nice runs. With a 2.1 60' foot time, you should be able to get it down to 14.6 easily. It seems like you are not pulling very hard top end. What did you run before the timing advance? Why did you have CEL?

 

Screw you eric, I hate you and your white car.

 

Where did you run at?

 

What was/were your trap(s) on your previous runs, the 15.0x?

 

Great times! Great 60ft especially.....I am 6spd with the same mods as you....and I couldn't even get below 2.45....it was my first time out though...i'm shooting for high 2.2's next time out.....not sure if it is achieveable since it will be summer....and the weather will be in the 90's.....

 

Yeah the 60' times are good. It defiantely isn't pulling as hard in the top end. Not sure why. Nothing some headers couldn't fix.
14.6 would be nice without a y-pipe on.

I ran at Gateway. It was about 77 degrees out.

The trap on the 15.019 was 92.52 mph. That run was all messed up. A -.057 at the light and from 3rd to 4th it hit the rev limiter. F' that run!

I was hoping for a 14.7, but I was fairly close, 3 hundredeths off. I need to wire up the Drop Resistor mod. Van, do you notice that it helps?

 

What do you run with the headers? Any exhaust? How is the VB mod?

 

Def excellent 60fts..but the times are a little slow for those 60's....I wonder why...are you at high elevation? With some headers you should be seeing some low 14's.

 

Low 14's would be nice. 13's would be even better but not sure if I can get there. What all do you have done to have that 13.7? That is sick.
Elevation isn't that high here. What could be causing my decrese in the top end? I know just even a y-pipe would help that out.

 

You need to check the elevation. Yes, that would hurt your traps.

For example, my closest track is at 165 ft. above sea level. Lower=better.

 

Remove all the stereo gear and the 18s and your trapspeeds will improve by atleast 1.5mph if not more. Also, the weather wasn't great. 77 degrees and the relatively high humidity we've had here in Kansas City and St. Louis isn't the greatest for racing. If you would have raced in dry 60 degree air, you would have been over .1 and 1mph quicker.

Gateway is a good track and from what I've been told by Kansas City guys that have raced there, the prep is good.

 

Good times man.

What are your 1/8th mile traps on the two 14.8xx runs? That is a good indicator of top end power.

Anyway, that launch is insane...I can't believe you could cut such a good time on the 18's...As far as getting out of the hole strong, looks like the timing advance might help this, I read people feel it more down low...

Anyway, I too am extremely envious of your 2.1xx short time. My pb so far was done on an atrocious short time (see sig), if the drag racing Gods could smile one time and grant me a 2.15 short time, 14.3 baby! Anyway, as Dave already mentioned, not real optimal weather, but hey you'll take it I bet.

Post your entire slip (or the #'s at least) please for your pb time.

 

Looks like you just edged out my best 60' (see sig)

 

Here are the pics of the first two runs

First one:


Second one:

 

Interesting to note a much better launch with the slower R/T on the first slip. It seems that all my slower R/Ts coincide with better runs as well, lol....maybe more time brake torquing.

 

I haven't run here yet, high alt 5.4k, I see it like Dave does though, you run what you run ... So I plan on running soon.


No, all I have is what's posted in the sig headers w/ stock cat-back. I plan on getting a b-pipe but not sure which one bolts to the stock muffler. From what I've heard and seen the frankencar does, taht would be my chioce, b/c i know warpspeed b needs a little bit of fabrication for stock fitment. I have to look into this more though.

The VB mod is nice, I think it could potentially help out times by a tenth or 2.

I agree, get the car on jenny craig and wait for some nice (drag racing) weather. Was it at Great Bend raceway? that's a pretty high alt track ... not sure, jsut going by this ... >> NHRA Correction Facotrs for High Alt Tracks

 

R/T has nothing to do with your ET. You could sit at the line for 2 minutes and still run 14s.

 

I think he meant the tranny got better torque for launching off the line being built up, then launching, just like a heavyweights punch compared to a feather weight, mroe wind-up, more punch ..

 

I would like to get the VB mod. Anything for time off.

No, this was at GIR, Gateway in Illinois.

 

It seems to help a lot, and my 1st was slipping bad, and I knew it wasn't the tranny b/c my 2-3 was perfect, and the VB mod helped the 1-2 a lot. I used to shift, and by the time it would stop slipping and finally engage, when shifted at redline 2nd would start at at 4800, and now it's solid at 4000, a little IM modification and extended rev limiter could be a combonation for some good things.

 

Eric, personally I would stay away from the VB mod -- I have heard nightmares, especially with the touchy '02 auto transmissions. A better idea would be to just get the DR mod -- you don't race your car enough to need the several hundred dollar expense of the Valve Body mod and the DR would cost like 10 bucks and take about 10 minutes to install. Van and I are putting mine on this weekend.

 

A VB mod should save the tranny, no 02 tranny equipped with a VB mod has failed that I know. It's usually the ones w/o it. Stage II is fine, it's actually comparble to the STOCK 4th gen shift.

 

Take some pics of the install so I can see how to do it.

 

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What does this mod do? I've heard it of it before but never really studied it. What are the benefits and improvements seen at the 1/4 mile with this mod.

 

Basically it allows full line pressure to the auto tranny so that the shifts are much harder (and much sharper, I might add). It reduces the amount of slippage the tranny might experience when shifting down from the high RPMs.This is only to be used at WOT.

I would say that you would most likely see a difference in a consistent .1-.2 at the track.

 

http://jime.homeip.net/DR%20Mod.html Here's jimes page with a little more ifno.. its on a 4g, but the crcuitry is the same, onyl diff is the pic on top where the wot switch is placed under the accelerator.

 

I am pretty sure Van and I are going to put the switch on the little panel to the left of the steering wheel. I will take some pictures so you can see.....I think the WOT switch would take a lot more work and there wouldn't be much difference.

 

The WOT swtich does make somewhat of a difference if you're a deadbeat like me and like to mess with other cars around town. I have it on my 95, and someitmes I have to keep watching traffic, and forget to turn the switch off and get the dreaded non-WOT DR shift ouch ... but if only being used at the track, it's a good benefit. I've had the DR for along time on my 95 and can truly say that the VB mod is better (IMO) and feels more refined, but if money is an issue, than save it and do the DR mod. I can also say that when going back to normal WOT shifting in my 4g, they are really bad now, sloppy and loooong, but I think I can credit that to the car having 227k miles.

 

no no no, all automatic 4th gens have that dreaded crappy and looooong shift without the DR, its not just yours. I've got 120k, and its the same way.

 

Hey man, my tranny was NICE when I first got, I had the car for 135000 before i installed the DR mod, and never showed any sings of mercy, shfted like my 03 does now with the stage II VB ...

 

mine sometimes shifts hard and pulls very nicely, sometimes its like, ok when is it going to shift. i use the DR switch at the track only, i too forget to flip it when ****ing around with other cars

 

Yeah that scares the **** outta passengers ..

 

So the DR has really hard shifts? Are the shifts actually crisper though?

 

The shifts feel hard only when the car is not WOT. When it is, however, the shifts are swift and crisp.

 

The DR and stage II feel about the same, though the DR is much harder under normal driving that's why the best way is to have a wot switch.

 

nice runs !!!

 

Belive me you don't want the DR enabled during normal driving ...