Spent the weekend at the track, 2 races sat and sun so I camped overnight to save changing tires and driving home. I bombed out on Sat but won the Event today against all V8 cars ranging in times from 12.0 to 14.8. Couple of 5.0 mustangs one S/C'd, 2 new Mustang GT's, they ran mid to high 14's, 396 Chevy II etc.

The first slip is from Sat where I beat my old 13.4 run with a 13.370, the second is from today where I did it again with a 13.325. The 3rd slip was the final where I did a .007 r/t and ran my dial, almost impossible to beat.

Next weekend its the first import event of the year so I have a little practice under my belt.

PS Changes from last week, removed PS belt and bypassed A/C pulley with a shorter belt.

These runs are all with no UDP, Stock Muffler and full interior.

Thanks to juice for helping me with the A/C and belt stuff.

Youth and Skill can be overcome by Old Age and Treachery every time.

 

YOU DA MAN! Congratulations! How many rounds did you have to go before you won? The most I've ever gone in one night is 5 rounds of eliminations before I was knocked out in the semi-final round. It was a 55 car field.

I attended one race and the first round was my semi-finals! haha But I lost in the finals. Atleast I went one round. Way to go! And nice RTs!

 

Very nice results man. When are you switching to the larger slicks? Do you think that your time will improve with them?

 

5 Rounds Aaron. Also I tried unplugging the alt to take load off but never noticed any difference so plugged it back in I may try removing the belt next time. I take a couple of extra batteries just in case so lots of backup.

I ran from the front most of the rounds but I prefer the rear so you can see whats happening better. Don't mind runnng the front with a car a second or so faster but anymore than that is too hard to judge if he is going to pass you or not.

 

you just keep getting faster and faster. WOW

 

They were supposed to be on last week, my wheels sat in the shop for 3 days and they "didn't get around to doing it". I was going to drop them off tonight but after this weekend I think I will leave them on until they are toast. I still have a fair amount of tread left in the center its the sides that are really down, so I have just upped the pressure from 13 to 17 to try and get some wear in the center. N/A I still have lots of traction but I think with spray it would not hold up too well at that pressure.

Times will likely go up but only a 1/10 or so which I can live with. The up side is that they will last much longer and give me more time in 3rd, I am right on shift point now at the end of the 1/4 and the 3-4 shift is really slow on the 3.5, not like the 1-2 and 2-3. I have been told the 3-4 is electronic so the DR or VB mod doesn't help it.

 

Oh yeah, I don't think just unplugging the alt is going to make a difference. It will still be hard to turn the pulley.

I had to reread your 2nd paragraph a few times to figure out what you meant. We call them "chasers" and something else. I've always been a chaser in the Sport Compact class I raced in. So I have the advantage in the way of the slower guy has the chance to redlight first, plus I have can see everything. I have my skills at the end of the track honed in, if I am the chaser.

The best tip I've ever heard came from a guy that raced an 8 second Super Pro dragster. He said when you appear to be passing the guy near the end of the track, line your eyes to his front wheel, then slam on the brakes and hold him right there. If I do that, I am exactly .03 MOV everytime! I have won most of my races when I'm in that situation. I can close the gap even closer, I just need more experience.

But if I'm the slow guy, I had to solely rely on my RT and car's consistancy to win me the race. My car never hits it number. I am anywhere from .03 to .06 of my dial in on any given run. .06 doesn't get it done most of the time. I once raced a mid 9 second Supra with a 150mph trap speed. He was just there to tune his car so he wasn't concerned with going the 1st round. I was paired up with him and I won easily. I knew he was going to sit at the light for a while, build boost and cut a 1.1 RT. lol But, I also knew he was going 60mph faster than me in the traps. I was at half track and he still hasn't launched yet. I had him beat by so much, I hit my brakes and won the race, but it was impossible to judge whether he was going to fly by me. And I beat him on the tree by more than a half second! lol

 

Yes, that's right. But there is a way to dramatically firm up that shift. But it will require a full tranny rebuild pretty much. I am going to get my 3-4 shift stiffened up to the point that it will hold over 400hp. I'm also going to get a 4.08 final drive installed from a 2000 Altima. Atleast I know there is a way to firm up that OD shift, but it's not easy. Nor is it worth it for you.

Plus, you don't want to shift into 4th gear anyway. The efficiency of that gear goes off the scale! Just like riding out the 1/4 mile in 5th gear in a MT. You won't make the same power in 4th gear as you will in the mid part of 3rd. So, try your best to properly size your slicks according to your trap speed goal and you will be set!

 

Now that's impressive ...

 

Congrats Jime, makes me cry though considering how slow my AE is.

 

Good work!!!!

 

jime you really know how to make all other na maximas look stupid

 

Jim, do you remember how much tread were on your 22" slicks when you first bought them?

I just got my slicks and the guy says they were used for 7 runs. I see there is about 1/8" tread near the center and a little less near the outside.

I asked MT techs and I got two responses. One guy said that the depth is .2" and another said it's .125". Since I have about .125" on them, I don't see how I can get 70+ runs with them.

I think you said you got over 100 runs with your 22" MT slicks. Did you do a little burnout on almost every pass? I doubt a burnout will be nessecary for me until I install my turbo. Thanks for any advice.

 

I can't remember for sure but I think .2 is about right.

Yes I got 150 and still going but after this race on Sat I am going to put the 24.5's on and I already have the 22's sold for $100 with the little rubber they have left. The guy wants them for a big race coming up on the 18th Jun and knows that they are almost gone.

I did a burnout every pass even N/A, not a huge one but enough to make smoke and clean them off well so they will take a lot. Mine wore out on the outer edges quicker so I have been running lately with about 17-18 psi to force the center to wear and still have lots of traction for N/A runs but I haven't tried with spray yet this year. Its doing so well N/A and more consistent that I am just using the spray for a finishing tactic if someone forces my hand getting near the stripe.

PS Everyone selling used slicks seems to come with a lot less runs than are really on them, however they do seem to last a long time even with the small amount of tread they have on them. I am hoping the 24.5's will last longer.

 

good job, nice prize.

 

Yeah, this guy said there were 7 runs on them. I guess the tread appears to match his story. I paid $230 for them. If you got $100 for bald slicks, that is REALLY good! I thought the cords were showing on your 22" slicks. Did you get another pair of 22" slicks since you post that picture on your site with the cords showing?

 

Ya that was last year, I bought a brand new pair and now have about 160 runs on them, there is till some wear indicator on the outside but just a bit, the middle is somewhat deeper hence trying more pressure. I would keep a close watch one yours and increase or decrease pressure if they start wearing in the middle or outside.

Running N/A doesn't take a whole lot of traction so regardless of the pressure you run they should be fine.

Actually what I did was buy back the 24.5 slicks I got last year they had 3 races on them, the guy wants to run 13" wheels on his all motor civic (10.8) vs the 15's. That is the Cdn record which is much slower than the American one.

 

Nice! I just picked up my slicks. I got 22x8x15 MT slicks mounted on 15x6 11lb Millenia wheels! I asked the tire guys if they had any problem getting it to seal and they said nope, it was easier than most tires. From the look of it, it seems to fit just fine. It doesn't bulg out as much as I thought it would.

I've heard one guy got it to fit on a 15x5.5 Honda wheel. But I'm happy these slicks fit. They are LIGHT too! 25lbs total for the setup!

Now, who wants to buy my BFG 205/50R15 drag radials? They are in GREAT condition. I will have to look in my logbook to find out how many runs are on them and how many burnouts I've done with them. I know for a fact that they haven't seen more than 10 burnouts. And they've probably only made about 40 1/4 mile passes! They have about 90% of life left in them.

 

you got them to fit on a 15x6 rim??? That doesn't make any sense. The altima guys buy 15x7 rims to put the 22x8x15 slicks on them. I have extra 15x6 rims but I was told there would be fitment issues. What's going on?

 

Once they are used they seem to install easier becaue they are stretched bit. I tried to put the 22's on Millenia rims and they wouldn't seat even after sitting all night with 100 psi in them.

6" is marginal, will be interesting to see if they will wear evenly.

 

My guess is that when you tried to install them, it was cold. It was 90 degrees when this tire shop installed them. They said they seated just as easy as any other tire. Many Honda guys have no trouble mounting them on 15x6 Acura wheels. I found that out on the Honda-tech forum.

I'm not sure what you mean by putting 100psi on them overnight. If they seat, then they won't leak. But if they don't seat, then I don't see how the pressure will hold for more than a fraction of a second. If you can get the lip of the tire to fit inside the rim on both sides, then the hard part should be over. Do you try to mount your own tires or do you get a tire shop to help out? I know there is a way to do it by hand, but I hear it's a real pain.

Brushedpewter, the reason why people go out and buy 7" wide rims is b/c it's the best wheel to fit these tires on. Anything from 6.5" to 7.5" wide, will be very nice. If you talk to the Honda, Probes, and other Nissan FWD guys, most have had luck mounting these slicks on 15x6 wheels. That is why I went ahead and tried it myself. There was nothing for me to lose anyway. I had the wheels sitting in my room.

Jime, I will keep an eye on the wear patterns and I will let ya know if things seem to start wearing unevenly. Thanks.

 

Ok. well I have one extra 15x6 rim, so I got nothing to lose either. If it doesn't fit then I'll go get the 15x7 rims like I planned to.

I will see how your wear pattern is, because I'm at least 6 months from getting slicks. I still got to upgrade my fuel system and get header. I will look over your progress.

 

They seal enough that they won't leak but they just don't quite pop right to the edge of the rim all the way around, there was just a small section that wouldn't go right to the edge.

My 24.5's did the same thing but eventually after sitting they did pop and you can't balance them until they finally seat.

One guy told me you didn't need to balance slicks too and he was wrong. By the time I hit the end of the 1/4 the whole front end was shaking.

 

LOL Yeah, the MT site says you need to balance them. So I told the guys to balance mine. And they had to put some pretty big weights on it to get it to balance.

I've never had that much trouble mounting a tire. When I bring it to a tire shop, they probably just put about 50psi (not sure) to it and it always pops on right then and there. If it doesn't pop easily, then the guy grabs the tire while he's filling it full of air and moves the tire up and down and it always pops on. Did you take your slicks to a tire shop or did you try to get them to seat with your own air tools?

 

No it was a tire shop and all they do is tires, mostly hi performance stuff so they know what they are doing. They even use a very expensive lubricating compound to ease the process.

Like you say tires normally seat pretty easy with a loud pop but these just wouldn't do it. They even tried removing them, reversed the tire but still no go. Even the other guys that worked there left the shop when they saw the 100 psi he had on those slicks trying to pop them.

With the 24.5's it was a different shop and still the same difficulty, we will see next week when I get the 22's off and reinstall the larger ones if its still the same.

 

I wouldn't want to be near any tire when it's 100psi.

 

Oh I see. So you were able to get the tire lip inside both wheel lips. It just didn't pop on. I am guessing it didn't pop on, not b/c it was a 6" wide wheel, but b/c of the shape of the wheel. It might have been too dramatic of an incline before it seats.

But I do know that tires can stretch a little when they've been mounted before. So I'm sure the 90 degree weather and the fact that they've been mounted before, helped in my situation.