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Old May 30, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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Well it should be Summer battle of the Naturally Aspirated 3.5
Yep so far Jclaw is in the lead
Jclaw 13.680 @ 104MPH
Nismo 14.00 @ 100mph
Krismax ?
Japmax ?
Tilley ?
Sr20 ?

It's the summer plenty of time it will end @ the end of July

And to make it interesting I'll have a prize for 1st second and third

What do you guys think.
Old May 30, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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If you guys agree I'll make the rules and everything..
Old May 30, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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It should end towards the end of September or august at the least.
Old May 30, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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Tilley is #1 he ran a 13.30, all of you guys trapping 104+ are EASILY into high 12s with a sick launch... wow that's insane, I wonder what I'll hit with a automatic stage II or stage III VB.. if I get 13s period I'll be happy, also you can launch an auto A LOT easier... so I'm hoping for some good times
Old May 30, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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I posted the contest in the General Discussion.
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Nice job Jclaw! Keep it up!
Old May 30, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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I did a 13.30 this month
Old May 30, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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True Tilley, Neal (old car) and SR20DEN are in the lead, but I'd get the 2nd place so far for street tires (and real street tires, not drag radials). I will need slicks to compete. But 104.5 untuned on an 80 degree weather day is generally a good sign. I don't think the 2k2 manifold sucks like everybody else seems to think. Maybe it's just my setup but it has no problem pulling all the way to redline. I will probably shift at 7k flat once I get that rev-cut raised.
Old May 30, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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Sr20 needs to run this summer or it wont count it starts now You have untill the end of August to compete. And yes there will be a prize for the winner..

Look in the General Discussion.
Old May 30, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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Why does someone's run from this spring not count? Seems like you are picking and choosing to me. If I make an NA pass on the 4th tuesday after the autumnal equinox does that not count as a run made in 2005? If you want to limit it to "summer 2005" then only runs made between June 21st and September 21st should count. If you are going to have a contest to see who the fastest NA is, you should include all runs from this year at least. He made his runs in this year's race "season". I say any run made in 2005 should be included.
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
Why does someone's run from this spring not count? Seems like you are picking and choosing to me. If I make an NA pass on the 4th tuesday after the autumnal equinox does that not count as a run made in 2005? If you want to limit it to "summer 2005" then only runs made between June 21st and September 21st should count. If you are going to have a contest to see who the fastest NA is, you should include all runs from this year at least. He made his runs in this year's race "season". I say any run made in 2005 should be included.
I agree. I want my 14.30 to be somewhere in the list. You will see 13s NA from me before this year is up too.
Old May 30, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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Can someone post a pic of where the zip ties go? Is there a write up anywhere?
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Just found this:


Didn't know headers on a 3.5 would add that much OVER a y-pipe
Old May 30, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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^^^^ Is that a good powerband?
Old May 30, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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Like what? Boost?

nah boost, is out of my price range. I like keeping it n/a for the most part and using the nitrous a little here and there.
Old May 30, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
Why does someone's run from this spring not count? Seems like you are picking and choosing to me. If I make an NA pass on the 4th tuesday after the autumnal equinox does that not count as a run made in 2005? If you want to limit it to "summer 2005" then only runs made between June 21st and September 21st should count. If you are going to have a contest to see who the fastest NA is, you should include all runs from this year at least. He made his runs in this year's race "season". I say any run made in 2005 should be included.

I'm trying to make this a race to the fastest NA max in a 3month time doesn't matter when it happens I'll pop up and post the contest whenever maybe during Fall so that way it will help others who have not been able to run during the summer run during Fall or spring. Then I hope that will push the limits of the VQ motor ...also an EGO BOOSTER
SO then what I'll do is start off whoever is the fastest from before as the starting point... That sounds better then will go from there..
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Nice runs. Our times are very similar and I can't have that

I think we should have a boosted 3.0 vs 4th gen 3.5 contest....
Old May 31, 2005 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
Nice runs. Our times are very similar and I can't have that

I think we should have a boosted 3.0 vs 4th gen 3.5 contest....
Holy sh*t I hadn't realized that. Extremely close. Was that on normal street tires or DRs? What kind of 60 foots did you pull on the street tires (and on the DRs, if you had them for that run).

There is a special "Sport Compact" Day this Saturday. There are the usual rice contests (boom box contests, show & shine, body kit show offs, that kind of crap) but there are 4 Race classes:

Quick 8 (Must be 12.99 or quicker)
All motor (Heads up, no handicap, 4-banger or V6)
Bracket (15.00 & up)
Bracket (14.99 and faster)

I can't compete for the quick 8 or all motor classes for now, so I'll bracket race in the 14-second and quicker class.

I might pick up some slicks this week and mount them on two sawblades, still not sure. I might also go back and use the same setup as last weekend, except with more zip ties, new tranny oil (synthetic) and Jime's cooling fan switch mod. Hoping for a 2.0 60 foot on street tires and possible 13.5's if I go back on street tires.
Old May 31, 2005 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by japmaxSE
Nismo 14.00 @ 100mph
Actually Nismo's best run was 14.06 with a 2.24 60 foot if I recall correctly.
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Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
Nice runs. Our times are very similar and I can't have that

I think we should have a boosted 3.0 vs 4th gen 3.5 contest....
Haha that wouldn't be very fair.
Old May 31, 2005 | 06:31 AM
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Yeah, unless we all ran on street tires.
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
Haha that wouldn't be very fair.

I think it is perfectly fair. After all there is no replacement for displacement
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Originally Posted by JClaw
Yeah, unless we all ran on street tires.

That wouldn't be too bad of a competition. More power but more difficulty in putting it down vs less power but more control.

Lets do it

I'll throw down the gauntlet I ran 13.10 earlier this year before I blew it up. That's probably the last street tires pass I'll make lol it was rediculous.
Old May 31, 2005 | 07:25 AM
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Just found this:
[img]http://home.insightbb.com/~davidwhoney/DynoRun.jpg[img]

Didn't know headers on a 3.5 would add that much OVER a y-pipe
Don't get your hopes up too much. The reason headers make so much power over y-pipes with 5.5 gens is that y-pipes don't eliminate the pre-cats on like they do with 4th gens so they HAVE to get headers to eliminate the pre-cats. If you expect the same difference you will be very disappointed.

Oh yea...this has been discussed 1202934302944 times...
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Originally Posted by nismology
Don't get your hopes up too much. The reason headers make so much power over y-pipes with 5.5 gens is that y-pipes don't eliminate the pre-cats on like they do with 4th gens so they HAVE to get headers to eliminate the pre-cats. If you expect the same difference you will be very disappointed.

Oh yea...this has been discussed 1202934302944 times...
Well seeing i'm new to 3.5's.. Its news to me.

Now that I look at it, that dyno looks low for a 6spd (I/Y)


BTW: Anyone have any Cattman headers for sale?
Old May 31, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JClaw
Holy sh*t I hadn't realized that. Extremely close. Was that on normal street tires or DRs? What kind of 60 foots did you pull on the street tires (and on the DRs, if you had them for that run).
It was done on G-Force DR's. I have not ran the turbo on street tires yet, but I will soon since I sold my DR's and am now running 245/50/15 Dunlop SP 8000 as streets. I sold the DR's to help pay for the new street tires and plan to pick up slicks before the cool weather in the fall. My DR's were a bad diameter for my power, the gearing just wasn't right. According to cartest I need to be on 25"-26" diameter tires not 23". I should pick up 1-2 mph with the larger diameter.

Anywho....my 13.66 was with a 2.11 60". I did trap 106 a couple times. I also have hesistation issues but I am not going to bring that up as an excuse.

slip

2.119

8.875
82.6 mph

13.66
104.45

That was with the stock manifold, now I have an MEVI and should run a couple tenths and mph faster.

I think the 4th gen 3.5's are too scared to challenge the 3.0 Boosted guys.
Old May 31, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Nismo3112
Well seeing i'm new to 3.5's.. Its news to me.

Now that I look at it, that dyno looks low for a 6spd (I/Y)


BTW: Anyone have any Cattman headers for sale?
I have some, but I'm not selling them [/major jerk]

Originally Posted by I30tMikeD

2.119

8.875
82.6 mph

13.66
104.45
Wow it's almost identical to mine. I pulled three 8-second 1/8 runs. The cool thing about this track is that your 60 foot and 1/8 mile lit up on the huge panels at the end of the track. So when you run (in the time trials only), you see your 60 foot lit up, then your 1/8th mile as you go down the track. Good times always got the adrenaline factor going and pressure to shift fast. When I saw 2.13 and then 8.88 lit up I knew it was a good run (I also knew because the tires rip when I shift into second).

They don't give us the 1/8th mile mph though, but I'd think it's similar to yours.

Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
That was with the stock manifold, now I have an MEVI and should run a couple tenths and mph faster.

I think the 4th gen 3.5's are too scared to challenge the 3.0 Boosted guys.
On street tires it is a better match since you guys' power is harder to put down.
Old May 31, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
That wouldn't be too bad of a competition. More power but more difficulty in putting it down vs less power but more control.

Lets do it

I'll throw down the gauntlet I ran 13.10 earlier this year before I blew it up. That's probably the last street tires pass I'll make lol it was rediculous.
I doubt I could do that but I think a lower 13 (13.4 or so) is possible for me on street tires once the tuning is done.
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[QUOTE=JClaw]
Wow it's almost identical to mine. I pulled three 8-second 1/8 runs. The cool thing about this track is that your 60 foot and 1/8 mile lit up on the huge panels at the end of the track. So when you run (in the time trials only), you see your 60 foot lit up, then your 1/8th mile as you go down the track. Good times always got the adrenaline factor going and pressure to shift fast. When I saw 2.13 and then 8.88 lit up I knew it was a good run (I also knew because the tires rip when I shift into second).
[QUOTE]

My track does the same. I like knowing if the run is a potential PB while I am going down the track. I hate the places that don't do that. Sometimes I will think "Man, I got out of the hole good that time" then get my slip and it is a 2.3 60' lol
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Yeah that happens sometimes. Run feels good but it's not.
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Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
It was done on G-Force DR's. I have not ran the turbo on street tires yet, but I will soon since I sold my DR's and am now running 245/50/15 Dunlop SP 8000 as streets. I sold the DR's to help pay for the new street tires and plan to pick up slicks before the cool weather in the fall.
How much did you end up getting for your Millenia rims and DRs?

I recently removed my DRs from my Millenia wheels and I believe I am going to sell them. Just wondering how much you were able to get for your combo. Thanks.
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You getting slicks, Aaron?
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Originally Posted by Aaron92SE
How much did you end up getting for your Millenia rims and DRs?

I recently removed my DRs from my Millenia wheels and I believe I am going to sell them. Just wondering how much you were able to get for your combo. Thanks.
$250 for the rims and tires. It was a hell of a deal for someone if you ask me. It is close to $250 shipped for just the tires, and mine were almost new.
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Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
It was done on G-Force DR's. I have not ran the turbo on street tires yet, but I will soon since I sold my DR's and am now running 245/50/15 Dunlop SP 8000 as streets. I sold the DR's to help pay for the new street tires and plan to pick up slicks before the cool weather in the fall. My DR's were a bad diameter for my power, the gearing just wasn't right. According to cartest I need to be on 25"-26" diameter tires not 23". I should pick up 1-2 mph with the larger diameter.

Anywho....my 13.66 was with a 2.11 60". I did trap 106 a couple times. I also have hesistation issues but I am not going to bring that up as an excuse.

slip

2.119

8.875
82.6 mph

13.66
104.45

That was with the stock manifold, now I have an MEVI and should run a couple tenths and mph faster.

I think the 4th gen 3.5's are too scared to challenge the 3.0 Boosted guys.
Ill take the challenge against you mike no slicks or cheater slicks . DR's can be used.

Will you take this challenge ?
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Originally Posted by krismax
Ill take the challenge against you mike no slicks or cheater slicks . DR's can be used.

Will you take this challenge ?
I think it would be great! I am up to it.

The DR/slick thing puts me in a kind of a spot. I just sold my DR's to get slicks and I am not going to buy another set of DR's for just this challenge. So it is either any tire goes, or just street tires only. No DR's. As long as that is the stipulations I am down to put you 4th gen 3.5 guys in your spot
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You getting slicks, Aaron?
I already mounted my 22x8x15 MT slicks on my Millenia wheels. I am ready now!

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Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
$250 for the rims and tires. It was a hell of a deal for someone if you ask me. It is close to $250 shipped for just the tires, and mine were almost new.
Yeah, that is a good deal. That was the price you offered after you lowered it. Someone got a GREAT deal. My DRs were over $250, plus $100 for my Millenia wheels. But I got a great deal on the Millenia wheels in excellent condition.
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Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
I think it would be great! I am up to it.

The DR/slick thing puts me in a kind of a spot. I just sold my DR's to get slicks and I am not going to buy another set of DR's for just this challenge. So it is either any tire goes, or just street tires only. No DR's. As long as that is the stipulations I am down to put you 4th gen 3.5 guys in your spot

Come on mike, bring home the gold for the FI crew .
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damn. wish I had the money to get in on this battle.


EDIT: are we including Nitrous into the FI crew?
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Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
I think it would be great! I am up to it.

The DR/slick thing puts me in a kind of a spot. I just sold my DR's to get slicks and I am not going to buy another set of DR's for just this challenge. So it is either any tire goes, or just street tires only. No DR's. As long as that is the stipulations I am down to put you 4th gen 3.5 guys in your spot
well ill try my best but i wont use slicks because i drive to the track as i am on the street.

well ill just challenge you and you can use any tire you want and ill use my DR's because my DR's are my race and everyday tire put 7k on them last summer.


Oh and no nitrous allowed



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