99 SE-L

Hey guys i lost to my freind in a 97 Integra GSR with I/H/E how badly would i beet him with hotshot headers and a AfC?

maxspeed96CT

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um...... you cant drive or your car is broken??

I eat gs-r's all day long with my 4th gen....

99 SE-L

Sotck GSR or with headers/intake/exhaust?

bgates1654

I am sure it doesnt make too much of a difference lol

steven88

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How much did you lose by? This is the quarter mile right? If you can, post up the timeslips of the race itself....if you were racing on the streets,

Anyway I wouldn't be too suprised that a GS-R pulled on you....they are capable cars and are not your ordinary civics....with a proper driver they pull mid to low 15s stock....so with the mods he has now...i'm sure hes able to he a 15 flat or definitely in the 14s....a stock 2k2 automagic is about a 14.8 stock (driven properly)....tell me more about the race so I can analyze the information....

and u will destroy him with headers+safcII

99 SE-L

This was a Remote location i pull on him in my low end but 3 rd gear he goes by me. how bad will i beet him with Headers and SAFC, do you know hwo accurate the Gtech Pro is i got mine in the mail today and my 0-60 says 6.65??

99 SE-L

yeah right Headers/full exhaust makes that car fly weighing at nothing

naplesmaxima aka Tommyali the scammer!

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them gsr's are fast

maxmale

with headers and an safc II tuned properly you shouldn't have a problem at all. I lined up with one at the track in savannah with i/h/e I even let him stage his rear wheels to my front and he still got ran through. You shouldn't have a problem as is. are you auto?

maxmale

nevermind about the auto question. Duh

maxmale

was this your first time at the track?

Lontar1

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you cant drive

maximaintheface

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ive taken a gsr with intake catback and sts. i ran a 14.9 he ran somting liek 15.2 or 15.1 im an auto btw.

maxspeed96CT

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i guess i forgot to consider that your auto, im not sure on the times for an auto but i still thought a 3.5 would be faster

1chewabacha1

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the 3.5 auto inside that heavy frame is basically as quick as the 3.0 in the 4th gen max isn't it?

Main Note: That loss is weird since I've taken out modded GSR's without the MEVI. With it I pull an additional 2-3 cars especially in 3rd gear.

I pulled 1 car on a USDM(177 whp hp) GSR w/ intake, headers, exhaust, fpr, fuel rail, intake manifold, rechipped ecu, (all the bolt ons) powered Hatch(2000 lbs or so) after I installed just the MEVI.

steven88

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definitely a bad driver in that hatch...a properly driven one wouuld have destroyed you...

177whp in a 2000lbs chasis versus 180whp in a 3000lbs chassis

rkyat

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hmm i never lost to a teg on a 1/4 mile run but on the highway he dusted me. (2k2 auto vs gsr with i/h/e)

Glude

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I ran my friends RSX-S in my girls 02 auto and he pulled top end. Of course those are quite a bit faster than the GSR.

RastaManMax

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That car should have demolished you if he was telling the truth.

99 SE-L

the Integra Gsr Pulls very hard on the top end espically with I/H/E.. off the line i take him then 3rd gear he flys by

JClaw

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A stock 3.5 auto will DESTROY a stock 3.0 auto. 3.0 auto typically runs 16.0-15.8 while 3.5 autos are almost always sub 15-second cars, most of the time 14.7-14.9.

A GSR is basically about as fast as a 4th gen 5-speed, both stock. 15 flat or so. So it's pretty much like racing a H/I/E 4th gen 5-speed. Mid to high 14's.

Driving an auto can't be that hard.

kobalt

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That's dissapointing. I kept pulling on my friend's 5-speed SHO with I/E.

SDot82

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I think the MEVI alone would give him more than 180whp and then add in his intake, y-pipe, and exhaust.

steven88

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Forgot he had a MEVI...okay we are looking at around 190whp....about 200 with an EMS....still not enough to pull on a lightweight hatch....equal drivers of course...

steven88

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And why is his trap so low with the MEVI? I pulled 95mph in my old 4th gen I/Y/E 5spd with no spare or jacks....also the track was 1200ft above sea level....

chewabaca what track conditions were u facing? I always thought I/y/E/VI would pull 96-97...add TS ECU and your looking at 1-2mph more

SDot82

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I pulled a 14.603 @ 94.94 and I have over 180whp (on a mustang dyno so I don't know what it would be on a dynojet haven't gone yet). So, does anybody think there is something wrong with my car? Maybe I should go and back and tune some more.

RastaManMax

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With my modded auto 4th gen i was able to take a 5.5th gen auto that had passengers and it was stock. I barely beat him though so if we were equal passenger weight he would've taken me. Our stock 5sp auto Altima 3.5S would smoke me silly .

LEMAR

1chewabacha1

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It's posted in the 1/4 mile timeslips.

FYI: The GSR-Hatch also ran a 14.8 at around the same trap speed (better traction tires on the hatch as well as a nice suspension setup). Also, when racing to fifth gear the hatch was able to pull even with me.

With MEVI: By the end of third i was a car ahead. As soon as i hit 4th he reeled me in and stayed dead even until the end of 4th.

Have the race on my camcorder but dunno how to put on the comp.

Also note: I still had a 1 inch dent in my y-pipe when i ran the hatch and at the track.

temp was around 85 degrees. Tire pressure was 30 psi on basic sumitomo all-season tires. No traction in first and my clutch was majorly slipping in 2nd (can't chirp tires) and 3rd gear the clutch still slipped a little.

anthunny

how badly do u 3.5 auto guys lose to rsx type s and teg gsrs with bolt ons in the top end?

1-2cars? or bus lengthed?

TheMax95

blah blah blah. All integras are slow! period.

Your maxima should have beaten it. I remember when i used to mess around on the streets and i would dust any integra that even tried. lol. The best was beating a 00 gs-r with i/h/e...by like 5 or 6 cars from a stop to 1/4 mile. Not even close. They are horribbly slow!

OOmaxSE

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i dunno, but i'm a 5spd 3.0 with I/Y and i raced my boys type s from 75 (3rd gear for me) and i pulled right as we took off about 1-2 car lengths 'til we had to shut down at my 6200rpm 4th gear for our exit.

steven88

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definitely a poor driver...a stock GSR is very comparable to a stock 4th gen...since he is modded, he shoulda been right there with u if he was a decent driver

OOmaxSE

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i think a TYPE-s VS a 4th gen 5spd is equal (both equal drivers) and a GSR has less of a chance to pull on a 4th gen 5spd than the type s

steven88

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yes this is true...a type s is more comparable to a 4th gen maxima...a GSR integra will fall behind a stock 4th gen (this is all assuming EQUAL drivers)....but it is far from being pwn3d like some people assume here...given equal drivers, a 4th gen max will still pull on a GSR...but it won't be far behind...but we all know nobody is equal in driving...so there is a possibility a GSR could pull on the 4th gen...mod for mod & even stock for stock...

OOmaxSE

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yeah, i do'nt see how a 4th gen (stock for stock) can PULL HARD on a GSR either... i think it's easier to have a better driver behind the wheel of the honda/acura... given that it's easier to drive than the torquey VQ. esp launchin...

theoverachiever

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you have to take into account gearing. the auto trans in a 3.5 is horribly geared as i remember it. 4spd, probably 2 of them overdrive, second takes you to 80-85 pretty quickly and then it looses its pull. The gsr and type s on the otherhand are very aggressivly geared and have virtually no dead spots. 3rd gear vtec, although overrated, isnt all that bad.

NmexMAX

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3rd is decent on the auto .... with the right mods. This statement makes sense though since 3rd, w/ stock rev limiter will do ~ 80-85, we have nearly a 50whp drop off when you're into 3rd from 2nd ....

OOmaxSE

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are 5.5 gens SE 5sp auto or 4spd auto?

i thought it was GLE 4spd auto and SE 5 spd auto.

NmexMAX

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Negative.. all 5.5g autos are 4AT....

steven88

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no, this is the case with gen 6 maximas...I believe only 04 models offered the 4spd auto in the SL trim...SE came with the 5spd auto....then I think in 05 all maximas came with 5spd autos regardless of SL/SE....correct me if i am wrong