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Old May 25, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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has there ever been an n/a auto max that ever got into the 13s bracket?
Old May 25, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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Jime, Blu, juice to name a few. bigdo was on the verge as were many others.

Try and be more specific in your question, i.e generation and engine configuration.

If you meant A32 (4g) then, no not with the VQ30DE.. But in the A32 body, yes.
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Ceasar and some others have gotten into the 13s NA with a vq30DE with manuals not auto. I think Sober got like a 14.1 with an auto.
Old May 25, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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Aaron did 13.7 in his bolt on motor 3rd gen auto.
Old May 27, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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Jime, Blu, juice to name a few. bigdo was on the verge as were many others.

Try and be more specific in your question, i.e generation and engine configuration.

If you meant A32 (4g) then, no not with the VQ30DE.. But in the A32 body, yes.

yes i meant a a32 with the 3.0 engine.
Old May 28, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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yes i meant a a32 with the 3.0 engine.
Then, no there hasn't been anybody to get 13s. I know sleeper96 did 14.2 when he was an auto.

I recently busted in the 13s with my NA Auto 3L. But it's a VE30DE, which makes a little less stock overall power and comes with a heavier body (3rd gen). So, if you're wondering if it's possible, then of course it's possible with the 4th gen auto VQ30DE!
Old May 28, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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Ceasar and some others have gotten into the 13s NA with a vq30DE with manuals not auto. I think Sober got like a 14.1 with an auto.
No way, sober just ran 14.8 after the 5sp swap recently wen we went to the track. He ran 15.1 when he had the auto on.
Old May 29, 2006 | 08:25 AM
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Then, no there hasn't been anybody to get 13s. I know sleeper96 did 14.2 when he was an auto.

I recently busted in the 13s with my NA Auto 3L. But it's a VE30DE, which makes a little less stock overall power and comes with a heavier body (3rd gen). So, if you're wondering if it's possible, then of course it's possible with the 4th gen auto VQ30DE!
well thats good to know then that at least it can be done.I got to get to the track this summer and see what iam doin,hey maybe i can be the 1st 4th gen to break the 13s in the auto world
Old May 31, 2006 | 06:12 AM
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hey maybe i can be the 1st 4th gen to break the 13s in the auto world
What's your mod list?
Old May 31, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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pretty much every bolton you can put + weight reduction i mean i have beaten some cars that are in the 13s bracket but then again on the track its all different
Old May 31, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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have u tried a valve body, torque converter, tranny cooler? these will not only help aid in ur tranny's life but the torque converter will help you indefinetly
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have u tried a valve body, torque converter, tranny cooler? these will not only help aid in ur tranny's life but the torque converter will help you indefinetly
Definitely! A higher stall converter is a MUST in order for those 13s! You need to be able to get 1.9s or low low 2.0 60 foots in order to even consider thinking about 13s. And a properly tuned VQ Auto with a 2800-3000 stall with slicks and weight reduction, you should have no problem doing 1.9s.
Old May 31, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron92SE
Definitely! A higher stall converter is a MUST in order for those 13s! You need to be able to get 1.9s or low low 2.0 60 foots in order to even consider thinking about 13s. And a properly tuned VQ Auto with a 2800-3000 stall with slicks and weight reduction, you should have no problem doing 1.9s.

Yup.......
Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CreativeDesignz
have u tried a valve body, torque converter, tranny cooler? these will not only help aid in ur tranny's life but the torque converter will help you indefinetly
yep got the vb and the tranny cooler the tc is on my list...
Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron92SE
Definitely! A higher stall converter is a MUST in order for those 13s! You need to be able to get 1.9s or low low 2.0 60 foots in order to even consider thinking about 13s. And a properly tuned VQ Auto with a 2800-3000 stall with slicks and weight reduction, you should have no problem doing 1.9s.
so when i get the tc this is the stall i would want to get on it between 2800-3000?
Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:22 AM
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Yup.......

so your an auto and in the 13s ?
Old Jun 1, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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so your an auto and in the 13s ?

Yes - just not purely NA - I use nitrous . Check my sig data - PB= 13.44 ET. And the Edge torque converter w/2800 stall. And other stuff....

"if engines ain't dyin', you ain't tryin' "

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so when i get the tc this is the stall i would want to get on it between 2800-3000?
Yes, if you drive this car on the street at all, I would go with that raise in stall for your converter. With that stall, you should see it flash that high when you launch off of idle. And also, if you hold the brake and brake stall it, you should see it go about that high also.

Any higher in a stall and you would lose serious efficiency. You'd get poor gas mileage and build up a LOT of heat in the converter. Also, you can actually lose top end power if the converter is too lose.

Call up Andre at www.EdgeRacingConverters.com, tell him what you got and what you want to use it for. AFAIK, I was the first Maxima he's done. I found out about him b/c I've heard awesome reviews with the 350z and G35 guys. I know other Maximas have got it done by him and they all have had great things to say!
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Yes, if you drive this car on the street at all, I would go with that raise in stall for your converter. With that stall, you should see it flash that high when you launch off of idle. And also, if you hold the brake and brake stall it, you should see it go about that high also.

Any higher in a stall and you would lose serious efficiency. You'd get poor gas mileage and build up a LOT of heat in the converter. Also, you can actually lose top end power if the converter is too lose.
Aaron92SE - absolutely correct - my 2800-stall works well on the street - you wouldn't know it's there unless you power-brake and run 'er up. I thought my top end had faded, but once I closed the spark plug gap to 32, I was back to the usual 100-101 MPH area.....

I'm driving that car to Maxus tomorrow - I'll keep records of fuel used and see what mileage I get with normal driving - if I remember what that is..... It was 27.5 MPG at 80MPH w/AC on.
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Aaron92SE - absolutely correct - my 2800-stall works well on the street - you wouldn't know it's there unless you power-brake and run 'er up. I thought my top end had faded, but once I closed the spark plug gap to 32, I was back to the usual 100-101 MPH area.....

I'm driving that car to Maxus tomorrow - I'll keep records of fuel used and see what mileage I get with normal driving - if I remember what that is..... It was 27.5 MPG at 80MPH w/AC on.
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If everything is the same with your motor and all you did was swap TCs, then your highway mpg can actually go UP slightly. This is due to the better efficiency of the lock up. If you looked very closely at the before and after revs during lock up at a specific speed, you should have seen a 50-100rpm lower lockup.

So, at a given speed on the highway while cruising, you should see a slightly lower rpm. That is what Andre told me and what I found to be true with my Maxima.
Old Jun 1, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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so with the new tc at 2800 thats what i rev up 2 and then launch the car?
Old Jun 2, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by icedout
so with the new tc at 2800 thats what i rev up 2 and then launch the car?
Not nessecarily. Stalling it up to 2800rpm doesn't always yield the best 60 foots. For me, it makes me bog ever so slightly and my 60 foot will suffer by about .01-.03 of a second. I launch at about 1000-1200rpm.
Old Jun 2, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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so what exactly is the tc for,iam not to familar with this modd as to what it does for the car.?
Old Jun 3, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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Old Jun 3, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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so what exactly is the tc for,iam not to familar with this modd as to what it does for the car.?
www.howstuffworks.com is the best way to go about answering that question.

Simply put, it will give you the ability to launch at a higher rpm, which puts more power down to the ground on the initial launch.

Try to do as much research about your car as possible before throwing on 'mods'.

BTW, what's your best 1/4 mile time so far?
Old Jun 3, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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I have not a clue but i have taken out some cars that are pretty quick so iam hopeing i can hit a high 13s 1/4 or at least low 14s.I will be hitting the track real soon to figure it out.

But another question is the tc is to launch at higher rpms and you said its not the best thing to do then why buy it?Just a Q because iam looking into my next modd at the moment so dont mind me about all the Qs aboutt he tc.
Old Jun 3, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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I have not a clue but i have taken out some cars that are pretty quick so iam hopeing i can hit a high 13s 1/4 or at least low 14s.I will be hitting the track real soon to figure it out.

But another question is the tc is to launch at higher rpms and you said its not the best thing to do then why buy it?Just a Q because iam looking into my next modd at the moment so dont mind me about all the Qs aboutt he tc.
Please read howstuffworks.com about how a Torque Converter works. It will tell you all about the benefits of one.

A high stall TC gives you the ability to launch at a higher rpm, which puts more power to the ground. I can get WAY more technical about it, but I am trying to keep it simple.

In order for you to understand, you have to know about TCs. There are different ways to measure stalls. i.e. Brake Stall, Flash Stall, True Stall, etc.

You can hold the brake and stall it up to 2800 rpm if you want, but that doesn't provide the best launch in my car. That's all I said.

If you rev it up to 1200rpm, I have found that's the best way for me to launch.

No matter what you rev it up to, the TC will still reach it's Flash Stall, which is around 2800rpm.

So, instead of launching at 1800rpm (which is the stock stall for the VE Auto), you will be launching at 2800-2900rpm, which puts more power down on the launch.

Please read howstuffworks.com to get a better understanding of the TC.

Also, I've raced and beaten cars that run 12s, but that doesn't mean I run 12s. There are WAY too many variables involved. The track is the only way to determine your ET. If you list all your mods and all the details about the track you will be racing at, then I will be able to give you an accurate estimate on what I think your ET will be. But I could still be off by over a half second.
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Originally Posted by Aaron92SE
Please read howstuffworks.com about how a Torque Converter works. It will tell you all about the benefits of one.

A high stall TC gives you the ability to launch at a higher rpm, which puts more power to the ground. I can get WAY more technical about it, but I am trying to keep it simple.

In order for you to understand, you have to know about TCs. There are different ways to measure stalls. i.e. Brake Stall, Flash Stall, True Stall, etc.

You can hold the brake and stall it up to 2800 rpm if you want, but that doesn't provide the best launch in my car. That's all I said.

If you rev it up to 1200rpm, I have found that's the best way for me to launch.

No matter what you rev it up to, the TC will still reach it's Flash Stall, which is around 2800rpm.

So, instead of launching at 1800rpm (which is the stock stall for the VE Auto), you will be launching at 2800-2900rpm, which puts more power down on the launch.

Please read howstuffworks.com to get a better understanding of the TC.

Also, I've raced and beaten cars that run 12s, but that doesn't mean I run 12s. There are WAY too many variables involved. The track is the only way to determine your ET. If you list all your mods and all the details about the track you will be racing at, then I will be able to give you an accurate estimate on what I think your ET will be. But I could still be off by over a half second.


^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ What he said ......
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fanaticrockford got a 13.8 N/A ....its in this section
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Originally Posted by Aaron92SE
www.howstuffworks.com is the best way to go about answering that question.

Simply put, it will give you the ability to launch at a higher rpm, which puts more power down to the ground on the initial launch.

Try to do as much research about your car as possible before throwing on 'mods'.

BTW, what's your best 1/4 mile time so far?
u have an aim name or somthing this way we can talk more?
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u have an aim name or somthing this way we can talk more?
Yeap, all my info is on the org. You see those little icons beneath my post? Yahoo, MSN, and AIM... click on one of those.
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ok cool i will im u when i see you on.
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