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What should I run and could I beat a stock STI?

Old Feb 23, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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What should I run and could I beat a stock STI?

I have a 2k Max, and with 26k on it three years ago I ran a 15.1 in the 1/4 mile. Now I have 83K and the mods listed below. Dose anyone have an Idea what I should be runin this summer, and do you think I will be able to beat a friends stock STI?

JWT cams, Fidanza short shifter, Catback Magnaflow 2 1/2" exhaust, Brek Technology Intake With APEXi Filter, Optima red top battery, Updated coil packs, Updated MAF, NGK Colder spark plugs (part# PFR7G11), Throttle body bypass kit, Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel (12lbs), Exedy stage 1 clutch, cattman y-pipe (in the process of finding and buying one), Unorthodox Racing Ultra S Crank Pulley(not installed yet), Berry Grant Power Wing Nitrous kit 80 shot(not installed yet).

The pully, y-pipe and nitrous will be installed before I make my first pass.
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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man i have no idea. even a stock sti would be quite challenging. what will you be running upfront (rims&rubber) ? very important you can get the power to the ground.

with that list of mods and a 80 shot you outta be going pretty hard. maybe a 5th gen owner will pass through with a better idea.

are your wheels lightweight and small ? and how heavy is the car? will it be full interior with car sterero and sub, that kinda thing ?

represent out there and get some video if you can. i want to see a 5th gen with nitrous racing an sti on video !!!
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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with nitrous... hands down!!!! you will kill him, STi's are slow, specially stock!

One at the track last weekend that had FMIT and forged internals and a bov the fed into the intake so he never lost spool plus alcohol injection was only running 13's so u should beat him easily!

Go maximas!
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
man i have no idea. even a stock sti would be quite challenging. what will you be running upfront (rims&rubber) ? very important you can get the power to the ground.

with that list of mods and a 80 shot you outta be going pretty hard. maybe a 5th gen owner will pass through with a better idea.

are your wheels lightweight and small ? and how heavy is the car? will it be full interior with car sterero and sub, that kinda thing ?

represent out there and get some video if you can. i want to see a 5th gen with nitrous racing an sti on video !!!
I will be running full interior, but I will remove my 5th 18" wheel and subs. As for tires I will be running my 18's out back with 16" altima wheels & a couple of toyo RA1's up front. The tires are sticky and get awesome traction at about 30psi. Also you can bet your a$$ I will get it on Video and put it stright onto youtube.
Old Feb 24, 2007 | 04:30 AM
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No, you don't have a chance if your buddy is a good driver. If he's a lame driver and you are significantly better than him then it could be a close race.
Old Feb 25, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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"with nitrous... hands down!!!! you will kill him, STi's are slow, specially stock"

Ummm....yeah right. Stock 300HP STI's are slow. Those things turn mid 13's all day long.
Old Feb 25, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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Sticky rubber and some form of forced induction and weight reduction. oh yea, a damn good launch.....
Old Feb 25, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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sti's are slow ? well i dunno maybe so if you are used to a 11 second camaro. i certainly dont want to be negative but please realize you better bring a mean VQ to the race. I realize that at the end of the day its a certain car and driver vs another car and driver, we are all different aye?

but even in stock trim the sti has the advantage. i was looking on http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html and can you believe they have 13.0 for an 06 sti ? i dont even want to think about what it would take for me to run a 13.0 much less remembering my close to stock times in my 4th gen.

i have raced 2 wrx sti's, both of them twice. one car beat the crap out of me twice running high 12's and the other sti was just a week ago. i beat him twice but get this, his car was stock and on the first run he had a 2.58 60 foot and ran a 14.2@104 mph. and this is on a track that I run .2 slower and 2-3 mph slower on consently.

in the second race he nailed a 1.9x 60 foot and we were side by side all the way down the track. keep in mind my 4th gen is capable of a 13.4-13.5 second pass now.

i will lose the drama, rofl ! but lets not under estimate these sti's.

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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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Oh I know Im in for one hell of a race and I hope I can beat it. Even if I dont and come close, that would make me so happy. The STI is a fearsome street car and if I can run around that time that means there is not alot out there on the street daily driving that can beat me.

As for a 13.0 second car stock I read that the 06-07 STI's run a 13.6 and the Evo MR is the one to watch out for cuz it runs the 13.0 in the 1/4.
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Maximahappy22
with nitrous... hands down!!!! you will kill him, STi's are slow, specially stock!

One at the track last weekend that had FMIT and forged internals and a bov the fed into the intake so he never lost spool plus alcohol injection was only running 13's so u should beat him easily!

Go maximas!
I wouldn't consider a car running low 13s stock slow. It may not be as easy as you think to beat one of them...especially considering how fast it will pull you out the hole. It will take good traction and a very good top end charge to beat one, but it sounds like you have the mods to possibly do so.
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Revs2Hard
As for a 13.0 second car stock I read that the 06-07 STI's run a 13.6

People have run far quicker than 13.6's stock in STIs. Like was mentioned before, low 13s isn't too hard for them to pull off.
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Sti's arent slow. I'd say you would be neck and neck. It would definatly be a good race.
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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my buddys 04 stock 12.70's
Old Feb 27, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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I have seen thse things fly... and they sound f'ing sweet too!!! awd 300hp??? slow??? 13's slow stock??? come on now...A slow stock time is 15's...14's are quick...13's quicker...12's are fast...I know we all love our maximas but lets be serious...an STI is no WRX ... ITS AN STI!!!!!!!
Old Feb 27, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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you would beat a stock wrx no problem but a wrx sti even with a few mods I do not think so, maybe if your a good driver and he sucks

wrx's slightly mod'd around here are running hig 12's low 13's
and sti's are running 12's all day
Old Feb 27, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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Screw guessing, just go out and make some passes. It would be nice to get some numbers to go with your mods whether you beat an STI or not. You should think about some type of tuner to go with those mods to get the most out of your car.
Old Feb 27, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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No way your beating the STI unless your is missing his left leg and has to clutch in with his right foot. STI's are fast, and the AWD disadvantage is made up with there power. Everyone knows AWD is a disadvantage after 1st gear, its backed up by the MPH on the WRX's. 14.3-14.4's at 91MPH. There top end isnt very good either, but its a combination of them both

Go find yourself a WRX and smoke it, assuming its stock you should beat it pretty good.
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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Even a WRX can be quick though. I ran one at the track last friday. Against me he ran a 14.4 with 2.2 60', but when he raced my friends maxima he ran a 13.7!!!! so even a WRX can be quick (new stock)
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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Its possible to get a 12.9 out of a stocko STI but you have to launch the **** out of it.
Old Mar 1, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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I've seen a 89 Turbo VG maxima take out a STI at the track. Couldn't get him from a stop, had to wait till later in the 1/4 to catch him. Ended up running about .2-.3 quicker actually. It is a pretty nice maxima....^_^ -Ben
Old Mar 1, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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The reason I ask is because we have a big talker at my work and she just bought a 06 STI (for $40,000 she got owned). She has done a blow off valve, exhaust, Flashed the ECU and a CAI. The key thing is she has never raced a car, and when on it she shifts about 1000rpm before redline. Now she says "your gay Nissan is going down," so I want to beat her.

What else can I do performance wise with out going turbo or supercharger? I have a good amount of money to play with just not enough in one lump to do a turbo or SC before race season.
Old Mar 1, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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put some "personal" favors on the line. so either way if you win or lose the race you will win in the end. lol

But you in for one hell of a battle if its chiped and has full exhaust. i think even if she 1k before redline i will put her in low 13's one way or another.
Old Mar 2, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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You've just gotta believe in your car and abilities. That, and mod the **** out of your wheels....^_~ Trust me, if you do the right stuff, you'll be able to walk away from her like its nothing! -Ben
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i think it depends on how much the sti driver wants to abuse his clutch. i see countless guys at the strip bog out and only run low-mid 14's
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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i think it depends on how much the sti driver wants to abuse his clutch. i see countless guys at the strip bog out and only run low-mid 14's
just watched a video of a guy clutch dumping with his STI and blowing the trans, so i guess theres a reason not to abuse it too much.
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Was it the vid of that guy dumping the clutch with the camera man on the passenger side of the car about 15 feet away and he goes "awww it's crying" or something like that? If so, he broke a half shaft. The transmissions in those cars are incredibly beefy, they don't break (hardly ever anyways).
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If i am not mistaken, the STI tranny's are very strong, isnt it the WRX tranny which is weak? 2nd gear or something in those? All i know is when my cousin got his WRX he was soo scared to launch it hard, hed try the way i do on my maxima which is a quick slip, he tried it and bogged, then stalled. I think the one time he clutch dropped from about 5000RPM the clutch went bye bye. Needless to say he sold the car and is now saving up for a STI.
Old Mar 6, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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check the wknd battles thread, there r clips of a max beating a wrx and another vid of a max spaying beating an sti, its possible but not likely, hey Ceaser what rpms do u launch at to decrease spin but get out the whole nicely on street tires?
Old Mar 7, 2007 | 06:58 AM
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Wait...didn't you first ask if you could beat a stock STI? Now you're saying the person you want to beat is modded.

If she's a very, very bad driver it may be close. Other than that, I don't see it being any competition. How many 3.0 Maximas on an 80 shot with street tires run faster than mid 13's?

Race from 90 mph...
Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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2 of my boys own sti's and depending on what they do, they go from fast to faster,lol. if you wanna call mid 13's slow, yeh then they're slow but be careful.
Old Mar 7, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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was looking around on youtube this morning at maxima vids and found a max vs 06 sti race.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S93OxAjbQaQ

im running hoosier drag radials anywhere from 9-10.5 psi, with about a 4000 rpm launch
Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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the sti had a good launch, but that max was coming back hard, nice vid.
Old Mar 7, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximahappy22
with nitrous... hands down!!!! you will kill him, STi's are slow, specially stock!

One at the track last weekend that had FMIT and forged internals and a bov the fed into the intake so he never lost spool plus alcohol injection was only running 13's so u should beat him easily!

Go maximas!

A 13.3 is slow, STOCK?! They already have forged intenals and a blow off valve doesnt improve performance. Pull up your "fast" 91 maxima and see what happens
Old Mar 15, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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If you say you have some dough to kick in, focus on light wheels and good rubber. Invest in some drag radials, or even better, slicks for the front. Your Maxima should be putting down some good power to make it a race, but you are going to need to launch hard. STI's are no joke if you know how to drive them.
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A 13.3 is slow, STOCK?! They already have forged intenals and a blow off valve doesnt improve performance. Pull up your "fast" 91 maxima and see what happens
Exactly! This thread makes me

STi......... slow, give me a phucking break. A decent driver in a stock Scooby will roll your *** all day long.
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I remember the time when I thought my Maxima was the best car in the world...

Did you race?
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So have you raced her yet????

If you havent since your a 5th gen owner i would get headers since all the pre-cats on the 5th gen they'll help you out alot more then just a y-pipe. Plus get a zex wet kit since those are pretty safe and the install you can do yourself if you can read directions.
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Wait...didn't you first ask if you could beat a stock STI? Now you're saying the person you want to beat is modded.
BigLou- Yes it was stock when I first posted this thread. Right after she got her tax return and did a Invidia turbo back exhaust, Cold air intake, HKS blow off valve and flashed the ECU. I now have given up trying to beat her car cuz I road in it and its Fing fast, a high 12 second car for sure. All the work see had done was at Rally Tech in Portland OR. Im still planning on running her for fun but she is going to kill me.

I have confidence that my car will run high 13's once I get all of my parts installed but its no sti killer by any means.



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STi......... slow, give me a phucking break. A decent driver in a stock Scooby will roll your *** all day long.
I never said that STI's where slow ~CONCORD SAID THAT~ I thought I might have a chance at a stock one with all the mods Im doing. Obviously If I can run with a stock STI then I have a awesome street car and thats all I want.
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Originally Posted by Maximahappy22
with nitrous... hands down!!!! you will kill him, STi's are slow, specially stock!

One at the track last weekend that had FMIT and forged internals and a bov the fed into the intake so he never lost spool plus alcohol injection was only running 13's so u should beat him easily!

Go maximas!
I assume you mean FMIC. if he had forged internals and was running alcohol, then he obviously had higher than stock boost and a tune, not to mention maybe a different turbo or other upgrades. With these mods, there is no way a maxima, even with spray, could even come close. i have a friend with an 04 STi with alcohol, and he runs low 12's no problem on the stock turbo and a conservative tune. Also, a bov that recirculates into the intake stream doesnt keep the turbo spooled and is what stock STi's have as well as all 1.8T audi and VW motors.

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