how are you shifting? Are you lifting the gas at all?

 

no, I don't lift off the gas. my right foot is on the floor from the beginning to the traps.

 

I've never tried that, and have always thought that was really tough on the car, but obviously your 3 cars seem to take it pretty well...I think we just found out part of Neal's secret to speed

 

whoa hold on a sec, i didn't do this in my turbo car. it IS hard on your trans, I wouldn't dare do it with a car that's got as much power as my turbo car did - I'd break transmissions weekly if i did. I granny shifted that car on the street and probably only went 80-90% on the track.

I'd only do it in NA cars because they don't have the power to break gears. I did it in my old 96 for the 2-3 and 3-4 upshift, I didn't do it on the 1-2 upshift because I felt it made for too much wheelspin. on slicks I did it on all 3 upshifts in the 1/4 mile though.

not sure if I'll do it in my turbo car once I have my big boy trans in there.

 

I really haven't found it necessary to fully power shift my car. If I'm on my game my shifts are fast enough my foot never comes up far/completely off the gas anyways, it's more like a "half power shift". And with the large (for a VQ30) PF TB you don't have to be all the way down to be at WOT/full manifold pressure either.

And don't anyone go by the shifting on that 12 second video I recently posted either, that was way slow shifting...

 

LuKeSKiWaLka: so neal pulled a 14.2 in a stock 4th gen
LuKeSKiWaLka: lmao
ElReyNica2003: shadup! he's an ubber driver, he's a jdm factory freak. probably has a bit of asian in him
ElReyNica2003: LMAO
LuKeSKiWaLka: LOL

 

I know you have a True Value clutch on this car, what did you have on your old NA car? Would having a stage 2 clutch change your decision to power shift?

 

wow Neal....thats really impressive! great times!

i have tried shifting like you did to get that time. but everytime i go from 1-2 shift the stick stift won't go into second.....it like catches on something or just feels really hard to get into second....would a short throw shifter help this?

 

sounds like a 2nd gear synchronizer issue, a short throw shifter would make it even worse.

no idea what clutch was in my other one, probably the same sort of thing. I doubt I would have paid the difference to have an OEM clutch put in it. That was 6 years ago.

what clutch you have shouldn't really affect whether or not you no-lift shift unless it's unbelievably harsh.

 

Double clutch it.

 

...granny shifting not double clutching like you should.

you're not serious...right?

 

What are you talking about? I told him to double clutch because his 2nd gear is going or is out.

 

Double clutch while drag racing?

He's talking about no-lift shifting while racing...to get the quickest shift/power transfer possible. You're talking about having him perform a maneuver that would be slower for drag racing that just regularly shifting. If 2nd gear wasn't engaging at all, and not just during a no lift shift, I would say he wouldn't be drag racing or driving hard period.

 

instead of double clutch, try no clutch.

 

when my tranny was going out on my old max i ran it at the track all the time double clutching really fast. it ran hi 14s only exhaust.

 

Hey DandyMax, it would be cool to arrange a cross-border Maxima track day.
I think Nealoc and the other MI locals should cross the border and do some runs at St. Thomas. It's probably only a 2 1/2 hr drive from MI. Dayum, it's about 2 hrs even for me coming from Toronto.
Then we go to their track a couple of weeks after.
When I was a little punk we used to have the Ontario/Michigan Hockey Tournaments. We'd go there - they'd come here. Good times.

 

that's a good lookin 3rd gen you have there.

 

double clutching in drag racing....

i practiced a little more with the no lifting the gas pedal while shifting....doesn't seem to much faster or that effective but i am getting the hang of it.

what i need to practice is slipping the clutch from the start....i usually just drop the clutch. i have gotten 2.12 60' on street tires. Neal how excatly do you slip the clutch? when i slip it too much it doesn't like to stick from there on after.......??

 

I don't know how to describe it, I just do it by feel. It's like riding a bike, you can't tell someone how to do it they just have to try it themselves.