Hey I got this guy with a teg that im going to be racing and im not sure about the tegs wieght or How i may do against him. He has a fast spooling turbo and I thinks its a 60-1 but it does sppol fast. But any how he has about 400whp and im around 450whp and my car wieghts about 3000lb with mne in it. How do you think this race will go?

 

I don't see a timeslip in here? Hmmm, nor a specified track location? Just race him and see how it goes, then come back and posts the slips.

 

Well it will be about two weeks before i can(I got to get a new wastegate) And im not sure where the race will be could be anywhere!

 

How are you putting out 450WHP....................

 

its a low ball guess. Ive been told that It may put out around 500whp at 20psi im running 18psi. Most sr20det's put out around 420whp with this turbo at 20psi I have a dek

 

Tons of variables as usual.

Are you going to have slicks? Is he? Can he drive? Has he ever been to the track before?

What kind of 60 foots are you capable of achieving? Can he match those?

Those Tegs can be dang quick. I assume it's not an LS turbo job. Do you know what motor he has?

It wouldn't surprise me too much if that thing can do high 10s or low 11s.

But try your best to take a video and post up the timeslips.

 

Street racing discussion is not allowed here. Read the rules.

 

I just assume he's referring to the track since he posted in this forum. I missed the part where he said he's going to race him on the street.

I'm only concerned about seeing timeslips. So if you race him on the street, I can care less who wins. There are too many variables on the street. Atleast on the track, we can see if you treed him or if you had traction problems.

Definitely race him on the track and let us know how it goes.

 

I was also assuming, BEFORE I read this statement.

Also, that's a boatload of boost for the CR in the DEK, any VQ for that matter.

 

yeah im not sure what motor he has MaYBE A gsr. I never said in anypost about street racing. But he can drive maybe better than me! yeah Ill be on drag radels

 

You also never said that you will be at a track, and the rules state that only threads with timeslips should be posted, not "What would happen...." " Do you think i could beat a.....".

But sure, @ 500whp, you should be able to be him, maybe.

 

what sort of timing are you running at 18psi...

 

-10 right now! I havent tryed on pump gas yet!

 

im pretty sure the 1/4 and 1/8 is for racing that HAS HAPPENED and on a track. wait till it happens and then post



PS: equal drivers and traction you will lose, at 400whp an integra is nuts, 10s ride

 

wow 18psi sounds more than 450hp

 

yeah thats what Im thinking too. Maybe I should finish building my z32 and try him!

 

Not a DET

 

Hey 95turbo gxe, at what rpm does that HX35 make full boost?

 

I dont care iF he is street or track racing. I was just wondering what a vid oF two high power Cars would look like

 

And you're even local.

 

And I have one in my garage

I'm also thinking about putting an hx35 on it. Maybe I'll steel one off of my dad's Dodge.

 

Do you have the dyno sheet to back up your 450whp claim? I'm sorry but if billy bob has the same setup as you and he is running more boost, how can you say you are making X amount of horsepower without actually being on a dyno?

the temperature plays a huge role in this as cold temps will normally have your car run a bit leaner making a bit more hp and hotter temps richer lowering hp. What about your fuel trims? In other words how well your car is tune will determine how well it runs and how much hp it will make.

A buddy on mine put a set of 17g turbos (twin turbo setup on a 3000gt vr4) he kept telling people he had a 500awhp car (625hp to flywheel). When the time to step up or shut up came, his mighty setup only put down 298awhp, he was so out of tune it wasn't even funny.

On the other hand another buddy with a 13g set up put down 378 awhp... and mine with a 15g setup at the time put 425. Later after some more tuning 437 (546 to fly) then spark plug blow out no more dyno time... at the same time people with my old 15g setup were putting close to 500awhp but my car never got there, for X reasons)

So I say to you, not in a flame, how can you say for sure you are making 450 if you are not on a dyno? Just cuz this guy has your set up doesn't mean yours runs the same.

 

^^^The discussion is not about if his 450whp is real or not, its about how he would compete with a similar powered lighter car

Sorry dude but, he will beat you. depending on the teg, they dont weigh much and at 400whp, those are 11 - 10 sec cars while you might be a mid high 11 sec car (if you have slicks, if not, prob mid/high 12's).

But also, there are just to many variables. Just safely race him and find out, as long as theres no money in it since your not sure of the turnout.

 

I agree, a 400hp light car will beat a 500hp heavy car. Weight to hp ratio, its a *****!

My 3900 lbs tank needed a lot of hp to race lighter cars.

On a side note, I have never seen a 400hp civic or integra that runs 10s in a quater! Maybe 11s (mid to low), but then again, those are not my cup of tea so I don't follow them.

D.

 

I just want to know how he is putting so much boost on a de.

 

It's a DEK.

This is one contributor for high boost on a stock DEK:
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...7&postcount=13

 

i havent noticed anyone mention how much tq these cars are making...

a 400hp teg with 230ft-lbs will get walked by a 500hp max with 450 ft-lbs.

the amount of tq/lb also plays a big factor in this.

 

not only does TQ make a difference, but where he is making 400whp in his power band makes a difference too.

 

bottom line, race the guy!

 

I agree with pee and venom...

Race the guy so we can stop bench racing!

D.

Ps: do it at the track!

 

How??? Isint it wayyyy too much compression for 18psi?? The de and dek are the same besides the 00vi and watever other little things they did.

 

I also think that's way too much boost on a 10:1, I don't care how much timing you are adjusting. It can't be safe on the engine.

maybe a 9:1 but 8:1 would be ideal for high boost. With forged internals and low compression like that you can run 40+psi for some really good times! Lol

But, on the other hand I'm not too familiar with nissan engines so maybe I got my head up my ***!

D.

 

Nissan engine or not thats way too much boost.

 

All about the TQ babee, like Venom said. Also, if you want the edge, make that power down low; Honda motors almost always make high HP only on the top end.

My guess is if you get the jump on him for the first 1/8 of a mile you should win the race.

 

But how is this possible i am still confused as hell because i thought these engines on stock internals and compression couldn't take more then about 10-14psi.

 

It depends on the turbo


Anyway I think the teg will take you (even though we don't know his engine specs), but you could get lucky and have him break an axle, which happens very often on honda's...... Goodluck and be sure to post results and even better a video!

 

I run 15psi, I haven't done a compression test lately, but it seems to be handling it fine.

 

On what kind of turbo? Because its all about how much power your making not the psi.

 

From his sig: t61

 

I wasn't talking about him, but 15psi on a t61 is pretty damn impressive


anyway I mean in general