New PB's and last time for the cammed DEK??

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May 11, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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EDIT: Full-size video added (720x480). Download it here.


So I got out to the track yesterday, managed to get 7 runs in and set some new PB's across the board on pretty much every 1/4 mile stat. I had a few issues during the day with traction and even some clutch slip now (uh oh) so I wasn't uber consistent but not too bad.

Anways, the new best sixty foot is a 1.73, and best ET and trap is now 12.61@108.98. My runs went as follows:

Run . . . 60 ft . . . 1/8 ET . . . 1/8 mph . . . .1/4 ET . . . .1/4 mph
#1 . . . 1.8020 . . .8.2049 . . . .85.40 . . . . 12.7579 . . . 108.17
#2 . . . 1.7501 . . .8.0960 . . . .86.50 . . . . 12.6130 . . . 108.98 <---- bold = new PB's
#3 . . . 1.7611 . . .8.1882 . . . .85.68 . . . . 12.7510 . . . 107.95
#4 . . . 1.7608 . . .8.1177 . . . .86.20 . . . . 12.6489 . . . 108.16

45 min lunch break

#5 . . . 1.8401 . . .8.1332 . . . .85.71 . . . . 12.6820 . . . 108.46
#6 . . . 1.7738 . . .8.1527 . . . .86.03 . . . . 12.7218 . . . 107.09
#7 . . . 1.7372 . . .8.2161 . . . .84.94 . . . . 12.8351 . . . 106.39 <---- bold = new PB

I was really disappointed in #5, since that was the run after the longest cool down break of the day, and I got stuck in the lane I don't like (the left), that always sucks and gives traction problems off the line. As you can see the car ran pretty strongly that run once it got going, so with a 1.75 sixty foot or so that pass would have been a high 12.5...

Runs #6 and #7 I had issues with some clutch slip, unfortunately. Not severe but you could smell it afterwards and my ET and mph dropped quite a bit on those 2 runs, although I did manage to somehow hit the 1.73 by playing with tire pressure. So #7 was a bummer too, because a good launch like that should have gotten me a high 12.5.

Here's the timeslip for run #2, and as always I have video but don't have it edited together yet, so that will be added in the near future. All in all, I'm happy with the results but being only 2 hundredths away on the ET and trap from a 12.5x and 109.xx was a little disappointing, and I do feel the car is capable of it, although I would say that's just about the limit, unless I can somehow drop half a tenth further on the sixty foot.

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May 11, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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May 11, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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Congrats again Dandy. Now its time for some 11 second N/A times!
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May 11, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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I give up...lol.

Amazing man..
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May 11, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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congratz man any vids from the track?
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May 11, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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Quote: congratz man any vids from the track?
Quote: Here's the timeslip for run #2, and as always I have video but don't have it edited together yet, so that will be added in the near future.
^^^
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May 11, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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cool
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May 11, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Your times are where I was running with the 3.5 swap and cams. Can't wait to see what you can get out of it when you swap it in. The max power probably won't be much higher but you will have 50 lb-ft more torque and a flatter powerband to work with.
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May 11, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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Quote: ...but you will have 50 lb-ft more torque and a flatter powerband to work with.
Yes IMO that is exactly the reason why this 3L setup has not been able to match the current 3.5L N/A record, which is Jim's 12.48 (IIRC), because it's lacking the extra torque, even if peak power is similar. (I'm just mentioning this for anyone who might say that you should be able to run the same with the same power, well not necessarily because the area under the curve is different). The 3L torque curve is nice and flat, but it's a lot lower number, as you said. So therefore, it gets to 270 whp, but not till 7500 rpm. My average power from 5000 to 7500 is only ~235 or so.

The 3.5 setup is going to be boosted, so it won't be optimized for N/A use, even though it will remain N/A for the remainder of this year. Therefore whatever numbers/times I get out of it won't reflect the full potential of an N/A 3.5, that's not the goal of the build.
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May 11, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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<-------
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May 11, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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You just ran a 12.6 @ nearly 109 MPH on an NA 3.0L and you're going to a boosted 3.5L. Wow. God help the rest of the automotive community when they finally see what a Maxima is capable of with a good driver!
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May 11, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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Quote: You just ran a 12.6 @ nearly 109 MPH on an NA 3.0L and you're going to a boosted 3.5L. Wow. God help the rest of the automotive community when they finally see what a Maxima is capable of with a good driver!
Very kind of you to say that, however the faster you go the harder it gets to go faster, it's not a linear relationship. It's a lot easier to go from 14's to 12's, than to go from 12's to 11's or 10's...

There are several guys like Neal, sleeper, Mardi, Jime etc who are good drivers and knowledgeable enthusiasts so if it took a lot of work for them to run what they have I'm sure it won't be easy for me either. So hats off to them, they deserve a lot credit for blazing the trail also! Guys like SR20DEN and tilley too...

As for me, all I will say at this point is that I'll try to do the best I can with the resources (or lack thereof lol) that I have to work with, and however it turns out, the important thing is that I'm still enjoying the car, even though it's almost 10 years old now (wow it doesn't seem that old somehow...)
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May 11, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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wow dude that crazy man.......... congrats im just hoping for low 14's with my auto DEK and thats hard as is, but you on the other hand make 12 sec seems like its a simple task, lol excellent work, you need to come down MD and participate in our imports vs domestics, these fools dont beleive me when i tell em dont sleep on us
video links ASAP
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May 11, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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My hats off......


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May 11, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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Quote: Very kind of you to say that, however the faster you go the harder it gets to go faster, it's not a linear relationship. It's a lot easier to go from 14's to 12's, than to go from 12's to 11's or even 10's...

There are several guys like Neal, sleeper, Mardi, Jim etc who are good drivers and knowledgeable enthusiasts so if it took a lot of work for them to run what they have I'm sure it won't be easy for me either. So hats off to them, they deserve a lot credit for blazing the trail also! Guys like SR20DEN and tilley too...

As for me, all I will say at this point is that I'll try to do the best I can with the resources (or lack thereof lol) that I have to work with, and however it turns out, the important thing is that I'm still enjoying the car, even though it's almost 10 years old now (wow it doesn't seem that old somehow...)
Oh I know it's no easy task. I just have great faith in you because of how far you have come so far. You've already done what was once thought to be impossible. That's all I'm going to say
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May 11, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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there is nothing else to really say another than please give it 1 more shot
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May 11, 2008 | 07:16 PM
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awesome driving cant wait for vids!!!!!!! +1 sick times...

makin teh FI guys look reaaaaaaaaal bad lol
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May 11, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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May 11, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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That's really humping it.
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May 12, 2008 | 05:28 AM
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Congrats on the nice runs!!!!! Are you sure I have to wait until July/August or could this been done next week lol.
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May 12, 2008 | 05:33 AM
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post video links as soon as you upload lol
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May 12, 2008 | 07:03 AM
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Dandy, you are a mad engine builder !! Props on this engine, and heaven help us all when your 3.5 hits the street - er, track

Fantastic work.
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May 12, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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still no one beleives me, even when they saw the old video...... congrats again
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May 13, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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Mad props man!! Congrats on all the success!
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May 13, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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If your going to swap for a 3.5 at least spray the dek.. i think it would break into 11's with a 100 shot.
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May 13, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Quote: If your going to swap for a 3.5 at least spray the dek.. i think it would break into 11's with a 100 shot.
he is selling the motor
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May 13, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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^^ Yup. Plus I have no desire to ever use nitrous, it's not my style.

On another note, I found out a friend of mine is going to the track on Saturday (May 17) so I may end up going out for one more crack at it, but that will almost certainly be the final time.
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May 13, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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Amazing what you are putting down. Time to invest time and $$ on EU.... What are you estimating to put down with the next setup?
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May 13, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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Quote: Amazing what you are putting down. Time to invest time and $$ on EU.... What are you estimating to put down with the next setup?
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May 13, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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Quote: Amazing what you are putting down. Time to invest time and $$ on EU.... What are you estimating to put down with the next setup?
He already has an eu....
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May 13, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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Quote: ^^ Yup. Plus I have no desire to ever use nitrous, it's not my style.

On another note, I found out a friend of mine is going to the track on Saturday (May 17) so I may end up going out for one more crack at it, but that will almost certainly be the final time.
Gut the car next time if it is not already.
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May 13, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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Quote: Gut the car next time if it is not already.
It's not gutted, but I can't be bothered to do that at this point, not worth the effort for the few hundredths it'll save me. I take the passenger seat out and my driver's seat is a racing seat, other than that most of the interior is in place when I race... carpet, rear seats, all trim panels, glove box, console etc - most of it's all there.
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May 13, 2008 | 05:41 PM
  #33  
no videos yet... c'mon, i cant wait to see the look on co-workers face
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May 13, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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Quote: no videos yet... c'mon, i cant wait to see the look on co-workers face
I know, sorry... I've had no time at all to work on it, keep checking, I'm trying to get something up as soon as I can... I may have some time tonight to start on it.
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May 13, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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^^^ please do
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May 13, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Quote: It's not gutted, but I can't be bothered to do that at this point, not worth the effort for the few hundredths it'll save me. I take the passenger seat out and my driver's seat is a racing seat, other than that most of the interior is in place when I race... carpet, rear seats, all trim panels, glove box, console etc - most of it's all there.
just do the easy stuff: spare, jack, floor mats, rear and passanger seats thats good for a quick 100 or so lbs
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May 13, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Quote: just do the easy stuff: spare, jack, floor mats, rear and passanger seats thats good for a quick 100 or so lbs
I should have mentioned that the trunk is empty and no floor mats. That's a given, but the rear seat isn't worth bothering to me at this point. It's pretty light.
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May 14, 2008 | 06:34 AM
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Quote:
Quote: He already has an eu....
I think he ment for himself for the EU
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May 14, 2008 | 06:56 AM
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I am fully aware that he is running EU, I meant for myself.... If used properly as dandy is currently using it, huge gains are to be had.
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May 14, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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Quote: no videos yet... c'mon, i cant wait to see the look on co-workers face
Got the video edited together last night, just have to render it out in the right format and get it hosted. Hopefully later this evening it'll be available...

Wonder where's Luke at? Haven't seen him post...
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