My runs w/ the slicks (Video clip)
10-10-2009, 11:53 PM
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My runs w/ the slicks (Video clip), new pix of the old disk
Hi Guys: Just want to update you, did couple of runs @ Lapeer Dragway, and the last two runs my Stage III clutch started slipping
. It's time to get the sprung 6 puck, any way her is my Video clip, and the slips:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2...-Vs_712343.htm
My 1st Run:
My run w/ the CTS V:
My Run w/ the Muscle Car: lol my son felt the Maxima is standing still. this is when the Clutch started slipping,
My last run w/ the Mustang Mach1:: Clutch slipping specially on 3rd and 4th gear.
. It's time to get the sprung 6 puck, any way her is my Video clip, and the slips:http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2...-Vs_712343.htm
My 1st Run:
My run w/ the CTS V:
My Run w/ the Muscle Car: lol my son felt the Maxima is standing still. this is when the Clutch started slipping,
My last run w/ the Mustang Mach1:: Clutch slipping specially on 3rd and 4th gear.
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10-12-2009, 07:20 AM
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Thanks Neal, I slipped the clutch between 3500 & 4000RPM, and eased on the gas to keep the RPM up, my son drove the car, and slipped the clutch @ 5000 RPM, but thinks didn't give it enough gas (Kind of bogged), got 2.1 60', and trap speed 107.39 mph, and that's when he felt the clutch is slipping on top of third & fourth, and my last run after his the clutch did the same.
Neal I'm thinking of getting ACT 6 puck sprung disk, new bearing, and keep the pressure plate, your recommendation will be appreciated.
Neal I'm thinking of getting ACT 6 puck sprung disk, new bearing, and keep the pressure plate, your recommendation will be appreciated.
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10-12-2009, 07:29 AM
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yes the stage 3 clutch is shot. The car is in the Garage washed & Covered will be out next spring, and I'm planing to get ACT 6 puck sprung disk.
10-12-2009, 03:24 PM
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If you are on true slicks, then don't slip the clutch at launch. It heats it up and causes it to slip on its own as you saw. I think we all did the same thing on slicks the first time. Rev it up and drop it, it won't be as violent as you think it will, the slicks act differently than street tires or drag radials. Start at a lower rpm and gradually increase on each pass to find your sweet spot.
10-12-2009, 04:27 PM
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If you are on true slicks, then don't slip the clutch at launch. It heats it up and causes it to slip on its own as you saw. I think we all did the same thing on slicks the first time. Rev it up and drop it, it won't be as violent as you think it will, the slicks act differently than street tires or drag radials. Start at a lower rpm and gradually increase on each pass to find your sweet spot.
10-13-2009, 03:55 AM
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Im a bit confused......in ur sig it says u dynoed 385whp...but y is the car still running low 13s...the car should easily be a mid to low 12 second car ....unless ur granny shifiting or something...lol
so can someone help me out here...cuz im not seeing a 385whp car....
so can someone help me out here...cuz im not seeing a 385whp car....
10-13-2009, 08:40 AM
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Im a bit confused......in ur sig it says u dynoed 385whp...but y is the car still running low 13s...the car should easily be a mid to low 12 second car ....unless ur granny shifiting or something...lol
so can someone help me out here...cuz im not seeing a 385whp car....
so can someone help me out here...cuz im not seeing a 385whp car....
; 385 whp, 319.4 Tq. on DynaPack Chassis Dynamometer = approx 339whp,281 tq on Mustang Dyno, or Dyno Jet. Dynapack reads 12% higher than Mustang or Dyno Jet.
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10-13-2009, 10:40 AM
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you should make it known that youre taking it extremely easy on the trans, thats a huge reason why the car is nowhere near as fast as it ought to be
yea, the times seems a bit on the low side, the 107 trap not so much, even though it seems as if 110+ traps are acheivable
10-13-2009, 03:37 PM
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and y is he takin it easy on the trans..it should be able to hold the power.......
dnt get me wrong those are some got times....but i expected waaaaaaay more...i thought this car would be one of the fastest ones on this site
10-13-2009, 03:59 PM
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again ima have to agree with manny, whats the point of building a S/C 5th gen to track it but when the time comes "ima take it easy"... seems pointless... i somewhat agree with the dyno number thing, but with numbers like that i agree that it should be mid 12's... the slicks explain the low trap but not the low times
10-13-2009, 04:20 PM
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but 385whp or 339 with a 13.1@104 with a 1.9 60ft is way off
and y is he takin it easy on the trans..it should be able to hold the power.......
dnt get me wrong those are some got times....but i expected waaaaaaay more...i thought this car would be one of the fastest ones on this site
and y is he takin it easy on the trans..it should be able to hold the power.......
dnt get me wrong those are some got times....but i expected waaaaaaay more...i thought this car would be one of the fastest ones on this site
Have you ever heard the term "powerband"? A 3xxhp Supercharged 3.0 doesn't have what most people consider a decent powerband. The power is INSANELY peaky, meaning that the car hits peak boost super high in the rpm's, resulting in much less area under the curve. I've seen high 300whp Supercharged maximas go neck and neck with NA 3.5's with 100whp less. Everytime the SC hits full boost, the car has to shift, and lose PSI. However, the 3.5 shifts, and its still in the meat of its powerband. If we were talking a faster spooling, well thought out turbo setup with 385whp...then I'd start asking questions.
Like Neal said, way too many factors involved here to start associating 3xxhp with track times.
10-13-2009, 05:24 PM
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If you re-read the initial post he said his clutch was slipping, which is why he was shifting light I assume.
Have you ever heard the term "powerband"? A 3xxhp Supercharged 3.0 doesn't have what most people consider a decent powerband. The power is INSANELY peaky, meaning that the car hits peak boost super high in the rpm's, resulting in much less area under the curve. I've seen high 300whp Supercharged maximas go neck and neck with NA 3.5's with 100whp less. Everytime the SC hits full boost, the car has to shift, and lose PSI. However, the 3.5 shifts, and its still in the meat of its powerband. If we were talking a faster spooling, well thought out turbo setup with 385whp...then I'd start asking questions.
Like Neal said, way too many factors involved here to start associating 3xxhp with track times.
Have you ever heard the term "powerband"? A 3xxhp Supercharged 3.0 doesn't have what most people consider a decent powerband. The power is INSANELY peaky, meaning that the car hits peak boost super high in the rpm's, resulting in much less area under the curve. I've seen high 300whp Supercharged maximas go neck and neck with NA 3.5's with 100whp less. Everytime the SC hits full boost, the car has to shift, and lose PSI. However, the 3.5 shifts, and its still in the meat of its powerband. If we were talking a faster spooling, well thought out turbo setup with 385whp...then I'd start asking questions.
Like Neal said, way too many factors involved here to start associating 3xxhp with track times.
now the excuse a slipping clutch...i give up....
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10-13-2009, 07:43 PM
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I'm not giving excuses, and I do not care what you think. Nealco187, and 98MaXeDouT, explained it to you by facts, and your not listening. Writing negative comments about my car is useless, because I know what my car is capable of. And no I don't need you to wish me luck.
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10-13-2009, 08:19 PM
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10-14-2009, 02:40 PM
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but couldnt the same be said for a 12 sec 5.5 that dynoes 280 on a dyno jet but 230 on a mustang??? it took till 280 to get in the 12's on a dynojet but 230 on a mustang... same goes for the OP, doesnt matter what other dyno reads lower, the fact is that with whatever power he makes based on a dynojet or mustang dyno or just as simple as how much power the car is making, it should be in the 12's.... i think you guys misunderstood datdude20, he's not hating on the fact that the guy had "good" times, the point he is trying to make is that everybody is congratulating on great times but it isnt based on the power he is making... a 300+whp maxima should easily be in the 12's 1st through 7th gen... i dont think he cares much because his heavier N/A 5.5 is neck and neck with a FI 5th gen
10-15-2009, 11:45 AM
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but couldnt the same be said for a 12 sec 5.5 that dynoes 280 on a dyno jet but 230 on a mustang??? it took till 280 to get in the 12's on a dynojet but 230 on a mustang... same goes for the OP, doesnt matter what other dyno reads lower, the fact is that with whatever power he makes based on a dynojet or mustang dyno or just as simple as how much power the car is making, it should be in the 12's.... i think you guys misunderstood datdude20, he's not hating on the fact that the guy had "good" times, the point he is trying to make is that everybody is congratulating on great times but it isnt based on the power he is making... a 300+whp maxima should easily be in the 12's 1st through 7th gen... i dont think he cares much because his heavier N/A 5.5 is neck and neck with a FI 5th gen
Again, your gross generalizations and tendency to correlate peak HP #'s directly with 1/4 mile times is severely off.
10-15-2009, 12:46 PM
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98Maxedout gave you a thorough explaination of how a S/C works on a 3.0 and why there is a major discrepency of whp #'s when comparing to say an N/A 3.5L. The powerbands are completely different. It isnt his fault you cant comprehend the explaination he gave.
98Maxedout wasnt giving you an excuse of a slipping clutch. He was simply trying to answer your question as why the OP might be taking it easy on the transmission, which is what you initially asked about.
Congrats to the OP on your times!
A 3xxhp Supercharged 3.0 doesn't have what most people consider a decent powerband. The power is INSANELY peaky, meaning that the car hits peak boost super high in the rpm's, resulting in much less area under the curve. I've seen high 300whp Supercharged maximas go neck and neck with NA 3.5's with 100whp less. Everytime the SC hits full boost, the car has to shift, and lose PSI. However, the 3.5 shifts, and its still in the meat of its powerband
98Maxedout wasnt giving you an excuse of a slipping clutch. He was simply trying to answer your question as why the OP might be taking it easy on the transmission, which is what you initially asked about.
Congrats to the OP on your times!
10-15-2009, 04:32 PM
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o.k smarta$$ ... im not sayin because a car has 3xx.xxwhp then it should be 1x.xx ET, i understand drag and dyno are different and you cannot corelate the two... basically my point is... a 5th Gen that makes over 350whp on a dynojet should easily be in the 12's, the powerband excuse is bullshyt, most nissans are made to have good 1/4mile... what the hell could you have done so much that you shift the powerband way out of wack to have about a second slower in times with a extra 120whp... it doesnt add up in the end... i understand a slipping clutch, but dont come on here giving bogus excuses and yall are not even the OP... let him speak for himself, im not against his times, (clearly he says he has a slipping clutch) i understand lower traps due to slicks, but datdude20 has a very valid point... a 2K maxima with 350whp should be in the 12's............................ man this forum has really gone wack, i can now clearly understand why majority of the ppl left the forums, i come on here most times but man it is sad.... agin good times for the OP with a slipping clutch.... 12's to come bro
10-15-2009, 09:36 PM
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o.k smarta$$ ... im not sayin because a car has 3xx.xxwhp then it should be 1x.xx ET, i understand drag and dyno are different and you cannot corelate the two... basically my point is... a 5th Gen that makes over 350whp on a dynojet should easily be in the 12's, the powerband excuse is bullshyt, most nissans are made to have good 1/4mile... what the hell could you have done so much that you shift the powerband way out of wack to have about a second slower in times with a extra 120whp... it doesnt add up in the end... i understand a slipping clutch, but dont come on here giving bogus excuses and yall are not even the OP... let him speak for himself, im not against his times, (clearly he says he has a slipping clutch) i understand lower traps due to slicks, but datdude20 has a very valid point... a 2K maxima with 350whp should be in the 12's............................ man this forum has really gone wack, i can now clearly understand why majority of the ppl left the forums, i come on here most times but man it is sad.... agin good times for the OP with a slipping clutch.... 12's to come bro
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10-16-2009, 04:31 AM
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o.k lets keep the thread on topic... im not going to get into it with you, seeing that you are VQ god... maybe i need to leave the max world because if i build a FI 5th gen that puts out over 350whp then i would expect it to be in the 12's and im sure if u built one you would expect it also... so with all my malnurished, blind and whatever the hell i come up with, the fact still remains, its a 12 sec car that everybody else on here is content with congratulating the below average numbers... given the slipping clutch