hey guys i have another thread that i started that no one has helped me out on yet so i have another question as well!!! please check out this auction and tell me what you think!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1842786224

i have heard really good things about these turbos and bad things!! so please give some help here!! and check out my other thread!! thanks jonathan

 

keep believing the bad things....

 

Looks like a leaf blower to me. Whats even worse is that someone is selling an electronic supercharger on EBAY that looks like a battery powered Toronado and they are claiming its for a Maxima. Whats sad is that someone is buying it.

 

Never before releasted?

 

I guess you will need an "ELECTRIC CAR" to use it.............

 

Just send me the money, you will get the same HP gains.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lordrandall
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

 

not this thing again

 

connect a pipe from your butt to your intake, when you fart you'll see better gains that you would with that thing.

 

 

I'm sure I will get flamed to pieces because of this but why wouldn't a turbo work if it was electric. This is from a purely conceptual stand point. I'm not saying that this thing works. What I'm saying is an electronic motor can have a much faster spinup time, plus if given enough current it could probably provide plenty of air to push.

I guess my question is, would you guys ever acknowledge or even buy an electronic super charger if it actually gave the performance that is claimed? More apprioratly would a electronic super charger ever work and why or why not?

Please spare the flames, I'm not saying this product performs as it claims. I'm just trying to dig into this topic without the usual "it will never work" standpoint.

 

the amount of electricity you would have to put into the thing to equal the power you put into a turbo fron the engine is probably insane. basically, your car probably wouldn't be able to push the kind of electricity needed to run like a turbo.

 

Actually, there do exist electric superchargers..same as what we are talking about. They probably require a seriously beefed up elec.. system. Not feasible on a v-6 car, but probably possible on a big truck rig etc. Maybe they don't..don't know. Not a bad idea because you can contol the boost levels fairly easily, as well as spool up rate, and even turn the thing off to save gas. What was that movie with Mel gibson, thunderdrome? He had a big blower on his car engaged by an electromagnetic clutch from an AC compressor..cool. He could turn it off to save gas..a rare commodity in the future wasteland. My hero.

 

So obviously an electronic super charger is not impossible as it has already been practicly done in large scale applications. To make it feasible for a V6 there would have to be a system cable of delivering tons of juice for a few seconds and yet be able to recharge itself quickly enough in between use. Probably a whole buttload of capacitors with a deep cycle battery thrown in to boot. From your previous post I am to understand that there are no alternators capable of supplying that much current on its own?

PS, how long before I get rid of this dumb newbie status? I've been on this board for at least a year but I don't post that often.

 

i know they do exist, i was just saying pretty much what you said, our cars woudln't be able to power something like that.

 

I like the idea of connecting a pipe to your butt and....

 

kind of reminds me of the American Standard Type-R. Be sure to turn on the neons, if you check out the dude on his "ride". 50hp dry methane shot, lol!!!

http://members.***.net/marklein/rtype/toilet.htm

 

It would depend on the RPM's of the "electronic" supercharger and the RPM of your car's engine. Normal exhaust driven superchargers have a wastegate that determines how much exhaust flows over the turbine which affects how much boost you get. This electric motor will only spin at a certain speed and only provide boost at certain RPM's. I hope this has cleared it up some.

 

It's going to be less efficient than a normal supercharger no matter what, the only advantages are the control and price.

Think about it, a normal supercharger runs directly off the engine, so very little energy is wasted.

This thing runs on electricity generated by your alternator running off the engine, so unless your alternator is 100% efficient you're taking a loss there (not to mention you'd need a much better alternator to get signifigant boost out of this thing), then the electricity is used by an electric motor which also is not 100% efficient.

At least that's how I see it, doesn't really matter though since all the "electric superchargers" you see on ebay are scams, but theoretically it could be done and not *totally* useless like the ebay ones are.

 

Based on your last post about regular turbos being more efficient I think I would have to disagree. A theorhetical electric super charger would draw most of its power from capacitors and the battery. In my understanding they don't run constantly, just when needed. The alternator would just be charging the battery from the continued usuage, not actually suppling the current for the device itself. I agree if the system was just hooked up to the alternator directly it would never be feasible. A decent battery could make it viable though. Any other thoughts?

 

Well if it were just running off battery then it wouldn't be useful for constant use. For temporary boost nitrous would probably be the better option.

 

What if it wasn't running off the car's power supply but some sort of external battery?