ghostmax

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The manual tranny is RS5F50A/LO, which fits a 90+ Maxima, Stanza, Axxess 4x2.

Is this a better/upgraded tranny than the RSF5F0A, which fits 87+ Maxima, Stanza, Axxess 4x2?

Besides the transmission, would the parts from the Stanza or Axxess work? Or should I just stick with all Maxima parts, inc. tranny?

Thanks in advance.

male

I would check the dealership for that info..not shure what the LO means. Probably something small, as I have an 89 and the tranny from a 90 is usable as a replacement for my 89 trans. I would go with the most recent one, as the change might be one to alleviate a problem that developed such as fluid dispersion within the trans or something like that.

mtcookson

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want to know something cool. The 2002 6 speed is a RS5F51A... maybe with the number changing from 50 to 51 changes a lot of things but you never know.

Shadow1198

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Mmmm....6 speed! Now, if I can just figure out how to retrofit a Ruf EKS 6 speed to my Max, I will be the happiest Max owner in the world. j/k

«§»Craig B«§»

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I seriously doubt that would be an easy swap at all, but I could be wrong

I remember a while back someone said a RWD Mercedes tranny would fit a max

mtcookson

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cough... that was me. but it was some canadian dude that said there was a mercedes tranny that would fit the max. and that dude told my friend so maybe my friend misunderstood the dude. who knows. this is definately a lot more feasable though.

«§»Craig B«§»

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I know, I wasn't gonna mention any names. I was just giving you a hard time anyway
Even with such a close tranny number, I still dont think it's gonna be easy by any means.

VE POWER

mtcookson

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yeah, more than likely it won't fit. But i think there is a possibility that a 92-94 VE tranny will fit our VG's. On this rebuild site i was on they said the 85-96 Maximas use the RS5F50A. I think the only difference in the 92 and up is the LSD which has a 42 mm x 70 mm differential carrier bearing. So, by saying that i think the later trannies all of the way up to 96 will fit 89-91 5-speeds. Then from there, if you had the insane amount of money required for this part, you could get the quaife lsd and put it in there and have an awesome lsd system.

mykizism

i would just use.. maxima parts and tranny because everything For sure will line up.

male

Last I spoke with Cattman, the guys who deal the Quaiffe LAD for VE maximas, we settled on this as a most likely scenario, based on both our research. The trannies are essentially the same with the exception of the diff sode casing and axle length. In order to get an lsd in our open diff trannies vg, some machining of the case is required for clearance. Nissan made a case with a larger diff area, which required shorter axle on one side or the other. So in all liklihood, the whole tranny swap can be done if you use the diff side axle from the lsd equipped car. Sound reasonable?

mtcookson

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sounds right to me.

KLoWnPR109

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The VE transmission MIGHT fit onto a VG motor, but I believe that you will have to get new wheel hubs for sure. It's a possibility? but nobody has done it yet that I know.

mtcookson

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i'll do it. i just need to find a cheep maxima and i'll do a bunch of test stuff on it... like something i have in the works right now.

Jeff92se

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I noticed this some time ago. As I've done clutches in both VE and VG 5-spds. They look identical except that the VE tranny has a hump in the case for the VC. I doubt you could machine a VG case to accept a viscous type lsd. But maybe a gear type lsd is possible as they fit in the VQ non lsd housings fine.

mtcookson

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want to know something funny. i ordered a clutch kit from courtesy parts and i asked about getting a VE pressure plate just incase it had a little more pressure for the higher amount of power. It costs a little more than the vg one. Well, i called the guy at courtesy and he said the plates are the exact same piece. Kind of weird that they mark it up a little bit though. Oh well.

Uncle Pete

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Tread carefully with these replacement transmissions. I found out to my cost that the RS5F50A mounted to the VG30 block and the RS5F50A coupled to the CA18 and CA20 engine blocks have different bell housings for the changing starter motor housings. If you've got a VG bell housing already then it shouldn't be a problem.

I've also heard that the RS5F50A isn't particularly great, with CA18ET engined BLuebird ZX Turbos eating them fairly regularly.

Nismo87SE

Another thing is putting a VE tranny on a VG would give worse performance. The gear ratios are the same however the final gear drives are different 3.62 VG vs 3.82 VE. It would hurt acceleration, fuel economy and have the engine turning higher rpm at the same speed. If anything swap the final gear from the VG to VE tranny and everything is fine.

Jeff92se

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Ari, wouldn't the Ve help accerlation? A taller # gear = quicker times but lower gas mileage and higher crusing rpms. Accerlation though all the gears should be a little quicker.

male

BINGO. Higher numerical=lower "gear" in other words, 1st gear is higher numerically than 5th. The VE final drive ratio would raise rpm at all speeds in 5th gear..fuel ecomony would suffer, as would top speed, but accleration (ie passing power) in 5th would be better.

mtcookson

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maybe that's why the ve is better than the vg... gearing

Jeff92se

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Ah it's the 4 valve heads, VTC cam timing, Varible Intake, distributerless ignition.

male

Uh, let's not go there...but if we must, the VG cruises at a lower RPM on the highway, and theoretically, is capable of a higher top speed.

Nismo87SE

I take that back, I did some cartest sims. It appears that a 3.82 gear would quicken acceleration by 0.05 sec. Also in top gear the rpm increase around 200rpm given the same speed. I should have done cartest sims before posting doh! Since the VE 5spd comes with a LSD, it should be a great swap. Note if the 5spd would swap over, you automagic/autotragic guys should find a VE auto to swap in. The only thing you gain is a VLSD, but the gear ratio is the same as the VG .

mtcookson

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do you know about the ka24 bell housings? i read somewhere that the altima uses the same tranny as us and was curious if they changed the bellhousing again. (stupid domestic-tranny-making borg warner)

surfermax92

So noone really knows if the tranny will fit? It seems like that would be the way to go if it does indeed work.

mtcookson

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no one has any idea??

Nismo87SE

It is simple, put a VG bell housing on a VE tranny and it works period.

mtcookson

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but i don't want a ve tranny. i want a ka24 tranny. they say it's the same but it seems they like to put the same numbers with the same trannies but different bell housings.

Dummy

Someone(besides me) hurry up and find out!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1855829314

Uncle Pete

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Uhhh - I may have missed something, but WHY do you want a KA24 tranny? Anyway, to answer your question, I don't know, but if they are going to give it exactly the same code then I'd say the most they could reasonably change would be the bell housing and possibly the diff. The RS5F50A on the T72 bluebird could be had with three different final drive ratios depending on the model. That's just speculation though.

mtcookson

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i can get some deals on the ka24 trannies.