I've never been in a VE so I don't know what the experience is like. When you guys drive WOT, can you hear when the VTC assemblies engage? Is it similar with VTEC engines where you can hear & feel VTEC engage? Or does the sound stay consistant and the car just goes faster when revving higher? Let me know what it's like. Thanks

 

whats WOT mean? im assuming its something like wild or whaling on transmission, am i close?

 

WOT wide open throttle. and can't say anything about the vtcs cause mine aint working

 

LOL... It means Wide Open Throttle.. hehe

 

Mine kicks in around 3500 rpm and I feel it pull alot more but the sound is still pretty muted, like a true sleeper should be.

 

Sky, I have driven both a GSR and my VE(and my VTC work!)

I know what your getting at. In the GSR the exhaust note changes and there is a definate kick in the pantolones .

In the VE, at about 3,200 or so, you can feel when the cam rotates and there is a surge in the power. It really increases the torque band(especially in 3rd gear)

But since the VTC is only a cam advancing device and the Vtec is a cam lobe changing device, the surge is more noticable and the power band is REALLY increased in the Vtec equipped GSR. If the VE had the Vtec technology, it would make probably 225-235 hp and maybe 210 ftlbs torque. The redline could be upped to 8,000 too but I don't think the valvetrain in the ve could reliably take that much revs.

 

The Maxima VTC moves the torque curve to lower RPM, so it is not a WOT high rev trick, but a high load low RPM trick. High load, of course, can be achieved by wot.

I consider myself sensitive to many subleties or malfunctioning in my drivetrain, but (to my frustration) on my 93 SE I can't hear or feel the VTC engage, nor the power valve which the manual VEs have, they seem to just fluidly contribute to the engine power game.

The Honda VTEC optimizes high RPM operations and can often be felt when they engage, like on the old four barrels when you could feel vacuum operated secondaries open up.

John

 

You don't really feel the VTCs engage too much, but when you hit the sweet spot in 3rd or 4th, it starts pressing you back into your seat a little more firmly.

 

and you feel like the engine just reaches down into itself, takes a huge breath, grabs every ounce of reserve its got (which is a lot) and starts pounding it out through the crank to the tranny. I recall that C&D or one of the other car mags (on their first test drive of the 92 SE-equipped VE) described the engine as a "magnum" load when compared to the VG version. When the VTC engages, it's more seat-of-the pants noticeable than it is audibly noticeable (mine is an un-modified Max so I can't speak to the sound of those of our brethren who have modded their rides) but it's still a great sound. And, I notice the tach zorches toward redline just a tick faster after the VTC engages. It's all together satisfying, without sounding exotic or obnoxious. Just like the rest of the car, it does this really well too.
Br, DT

 

i forgot how it sounded b4 i got k&n filter but when i give her full throttle now its like an agressive roar... all in all its a thing of beauty

 

At the higher RPMs, around 3.5k - 4k+ I get like a sudden burst in power, RPMs increase, car hesitates slightly, depends on how hard I push it, at WOT, I can be accelerating at a better then normal rate, then at about 30 mph, the engine screams, rpms go up to 5k+ and car accelerates with a necksnapping response....

 

I believe my 93 SE has a VTC problem from the claking sound (almost like a diesel at idle),but it is intermittent. Once the VTC has had "THE FIX", can they go bad again? Do the new assemblies completly correct any future problem? Is this a fix that the local Vocational school who has a Toyota program could handle? The reason I ask, is I can get it done for just a little above the cost of labor.I don't think there are h/p loses because she feels strong and I am able to spank the usual array of cars, with special feeling for any Hondas beat.Thanks, Dan

 

when mine is most noticeable is on the highway, at about 85mph in 5th, i can really feel it pull hard. sometimes i think i can feel it pull harder with the VTC. not really sure, i defenitely can't hear it. maybe with some kind of intake or exhaust i could.

 

Dan, installing new assemblies will fix the problem but it may come back. The important thing when putting new assemblies in is to make sure the oil gallies feeding the chain tensioner and the assembies themselves are clear. One gallay is under the #1 intake cam bearing cap. The other gallay is under the chain tensioner assembly. Yeah I would think as long as you have the TSB(there are two) and the guys take their time, there should be no problems. Goo luck bro!

 

Before I took out my old motor, I had had my VTC's done twice, however the noise came back. The nissan people diagnosed it as the timing chain tensioner. Is that something that wears out over time(150K miles) or something that is caused by oil galley blockages??? I am going to eventually rebuild that motor and want it bulletproof.

 

Yeah the tensioner is a wear item. The chain slides against a plastic looking block that keeps the tension on the chain. I suppose if it gets worn it will be too thin and allow too much slack in the chain. If you rebuild your engine, this is one thing too look at. Getting a new chain is another possiblity.

 

Jeff92Se what is your sig pic? i cant figure it out haha