92 Ve 5 speed 70k
08-19-2003, 01:24 PM
#2
I would probably pay it, being as it is pretty hard to find one with that few miles. I might offer $4000 just to make it a round number. I'd have a mechanic look it over and do a carfax to make sure the odometer wasn't messed with.
The "excellent" condition blue book (private party) without leather, airbag or abs is about $4500.
There are other things to look for when buying a VE, like if the VTCs tick and things like that.
Good luck, sounds like a nice car.
The "excellent" condition blue book (private party) without leather, airbag or abs is about $4500.
There are other things to look for when buying a VE, like if the VTCs tick and things like that.
Good luck, sounds like a nice car.
08-19-2003, 05:09 PM
#6
Come on guys... I know this is a Gen3 forum.... but come on....
$4500 for a 12 year old car? And though it IS a SE 5 spd, it's STILL a Maxima. A car that they made a gazillion of.
Instead of getting a car that's had most of the standard Maxima problems fixed, your going to buy one that hasn't reached that stage YET.
I'd offer $3K, Be willing to go to $3500 and walk if that wasn't enough.
$4500 for a 12 year old car? And though it IS a SE 5 spd, it's STILL a Maxima. A car that they made a gazillion of.
Instead of getting a car that's had most of the standard Maxima problems fixed, your going to buy one that hasn't reached that stage YET.
I'd offer $3K, Be willing to go to $3500 and walk if that wasn't enough.
08-19-2003, 05:25 PM
#7
I think I would rather pay extra for the lower mileage car. Usually, those are garaged and babied by their owners, who are typically older people that have the money and the sense to keep the maintenance schedule.
What kind of car would you suggest with 70k miles for $4000?
My car has 145k and the only problems I've had are the water pump, one window regulator and the clutch pedal bracket. Total: less than $800 (including labor). Still has the original clutch. My car was a commuter car used by my brother for several years and he drives like a madman.
So, Propz should be able to expect probably 50,000 miles before spending major money on the car. That's roughly 4 years of driving. Maybe a clutch, alternator, starter, window regulator or a water pump. Those are all pretty minor and very unlikely that all of those would go bad even in four years.
If the VTCs aren't ticking (probably one of the biggest expenses) and the car has no damage (esp rust) $4000 is a good deal. BTW, $4500 is the blue book. I didn't say he should pay MORE than the person was asking.
What kind of car would you suggest with 70k miles for $4000?
My car has 145k and the only problems I've had are the water pump, one window regulator and the clutch pedal bracket. Total: less than $800 (including labor). Still has the original clutch. My car was a commuter car used by my brother for several years and he drives like a madman.
So, Propz should be able to expect probably 50,000 miles before spending major money on the car. That's roughly 4 years of driving. Maybe a clutch, alternator, starter, window regulator or a water pump. Those are all pretty minor and very unlikely that all of those would go bad even in four years.
If the VTCs aren't ticking (probably one of the biggest expenses) and the car has no damage (esp rust) $4000 is a good deal. BTW, $4500 is the blue book. I didn't say he should pay MORE than the person was asking.
08-19-2003, 05:41 PM
#8
NO 12 year old mass market car is worth $4500. Not to me. I paid $1500 for my 92 VE 5spd. I don't really care want book on any car is. Cars (like EVERYTHING else) are worth what you're willing to pay for it. I would be willing to pay $3000, maybe $3500 for that car if it's EXTREMELY clean.
Personally, I'm not going to pay premium dollar for a car on the CHANCE it was babied and maintained properly. If the current owner has kept service records and can SHOW all work has been done that I would do then maybe I'dgo long dollar, but I doubt it.
Come on, this was a mass market car. A gazillion made. They're great cars, but they aren't rare. There will be another one. I'm not saying he shouldn't buy it, but $4000 is LONG money for a 12 year old car even if some book says it's worth it.
Personally, I'm not going to pay premium dollar for a car on the CHANCE it was babied and maintained properly. If the current owner has kept service records and can SHOW all work has been done that I would do then maybe I'dgo long dollar, but I doubt it.
Come on, this was a mass market car. A gazillion made. They're great cars, but they aren't rare. There will be another one. I'm not saying he shouldn't buy it, but $4000 is LONG money for a 12 year old car even if some book says it's worth it.
08-19-2003, 08:23 PM
#10
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i cant believe your saying the ve 5spd isnt a rare car it took me 6 months to find one in good shape and i payed a premeium for it 5700 with 94xxx almost 2 years ago but it was well worth it i only test drove like 4 or 5 in that 6 months. just go to auto trader.com and see how many there are nation wide proboly less than 20 but gxe autos shiit theres proboly 20 pages worth
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08-19-2003, 11:27 PM
#12
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Originally posted by shoult
. . . Come on, this was a mass market car. A gazillion made. They're great cars, but they aren't rare. . . .
. . . Come on, this was a mass market car. A gazillion made. They're great cars, but they aren't rare. . . .
To propz', go for it! If you know what you are looking at and what to look for, it is your world man. Congratulations on the RARE find.
08-20-2003, 05:11 AM
#13
Hey... if wants to pay long dollar for a car, fine. If he or you don't think $4k is long dollar for a 12 year old, mass produced car, fine. I'm certainly not trying to convince him he shouldn't buy that car. I'm just saying that $4K is long money.
I found my 92 VE 5spd for $1500 within a 1/2 hour of starting to look. They AREN'T that rare. I really like my Max, but it isn't hard to find them. You may have to travel to get it. I went from Tennessee to Massachusetts to buy a Texas car. But isn't that just a good excuse for a road trip in your new car? Broaden your search.
And realistically, at 70K miles he is coming into a stretch where things are beginning to enter the end of their lifespan. Sure, someones clutch lasts until 150K. But that not a normal thing. OEM clutches normally 70-120K depending on driving style. I've seen people blow through them at 30K. I've seen an OEM clutch go to 225K. Does that mean they all should? Of course not. And whether the Max has 70K or 270K the plastic pieces in the window regulator that always break are still 12 years old. If those windows NEVER moved since 92, that plastic has still aged and unlike wine, plastic does not get better with age.
I'm trying to be a realist here folks. The max is a great car and worth more then other sedans of it age. Still, it is a 12 year old car. Things are going to break, things are going to wear out. There are known problems that affect almost ALL Max's of that age that he WILL have to fix if he still has the car. And yes you're right. They may not ever show up. Then again, w/70K miles and 12 years they may show up the day after the buyers remorse clause is over.
But again, if he want's to spend $4K on that car, then more power to him. My only advice was to offer three, be willing to pay $3500, and be willing to walk away and search some more if that doesn't work.
And to those of you who say where else can you get a performance sedan for $4K. Just look out there. How about the SHO Taurus (not my cup o tea), Pontiac SSE? Chevy SS. Yep they are all Domestics and I wouldn't have ANY of them....
And just to point back to the original message, no where in it does he say he's stuck on having a sporty sedan, or even a Max. IF you look well, you'll find all kind of nice sporty cars with similar power and options in the 94-96 year range for the same money. They may not be sports sedans, or they might. I just saw one guy in the forum get a 96 SE 5spd for $4600.
Yep, it has more miles, but it will also NEVER have ticking VTC's.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=242385
This whole time all I've been trying to say is that the deals are out there. If you are in to much of a hurry to find one, then pay the money. But the deals ARE out there. Take your time. You'll find what you want for the price you want to pay. And when you do you won't have to write to a forum and ask if it's too much to pay, you'll know.
I you want rare, try fining an 88-89 MR2 Supercharged or a 93+ MR2 Turbo.
I found my 92 VE 5spd for $1500 within a 1/2 hour of starting to look. They AREN'T that rare. I really like my Max, but it isn't hard to find them. You may have to travel to get it. I went from Tennessee to Massachusetts to buy a Texas car. But isn't that just a good excuse for a road trip in your new car? Broaden your search.
And realistically, at 70K miles he is coming into a stretch where things are beginning to enter the end of their lifespan. Sure, someones clutch lasts until 150K. But that not a normal thing. OEM clutches normally 70-120K depending on driving style. I've seen people blow through them at 30K. I've seen an OEM clutch go to 225K. Does that mean they all should? Of course not. And whether the Max has 70K or 270K the plastic pieces in the window regulator that always break are still 12 years old. If those windows NEVER moved since 92, that plastic has still aged and unlike wine, plastic does not get better with age.
I'm trying to be a realist here folks. The max is a great car and worth more then other sedans of it age. Still, it is a 12 year old car. Things are going to break, things are going to wear out. There are known problems that affect almost ALL Max's of that age that he WILL have to fix if he still has the car. And yes you're right. They may not ever show up. Then again, w/70K miles and 12 years they may show up the day after the buyers remorse clause is over.
But again, if he want's to spend $4K on that car, then more power to him. My only advice was to offer three, be willing to pay $3500, and be willing to walk away and search some more if that doesn't work.
And to those of you who say where else can you get a performance sedan for $4K. Just look out there. How about the SHO Taurus (not my cup o tea), Pontiac SSE? Chevy SS. Yep they are all Domestics and I wouldn't have ANY of them....
And just to point back to the original message, no where in it does he say he's stuck on having a sporty sedan, or even a Max. IF you look well, you'll find all kind of nice sporty cars with similar power and options in the 94-96 year range for the same money. They may not be sports sedans, or they might. I just saw one guy in the forum get a 96 SE 5spd for $4600.
Yep, it has more miles, but it will also NEVER have ticking VTC's.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=242385
This whole time all I've been trying to say is that the deals are out there. If you are in to much of a hurry to find one, then pay the money. But the deals ARE out there. Take your time. You'll find what you want for the price you want to pay. And when you do you won't have to write to a forum and ask if it's too much to pay, you'll know.
I you want rare, try fining an 88-89 MR2 Supercharged or a 93+ MR2 Turbo.
08-20-2003, 07:03 AM
#15
right. he bought it, as would about 95 percent of us here.
Oh, and I wouldn't say $4000 is "long dollar" for a car. That's not even a big investment. That amount keeps the car into the cheap version of the auto trader.
Oh, and I wouldn't say $4000 is "long dollar" for a car. That's not even a big investment. That amount keeps the car into the cheap version of the auto trader.
08-20-2003, 07:32 AM
#16
I'm not gonna convince anybody here that $4k is too much for a 12 year old car cause you won't go out and look hard enough. If you want a 92 VE 5spd bad enougfh you'll pay what's asked. If your happy with that, fine.
I bought mine because I was looking for something between my van and my sports car. I had a price range in mind and it was well within it. It was also the ONLY FWD car on the list. Without the VE or the 5spd it wouldn't have made the cut either. I'm happy with the car and the price I paid for it. I'm not so sure I'd be so happy if I'd paid more. But that's me. To me the Max is a nice car for what it is. After massaging things it handles pretty well and runs out decently. I like it, but if someone offered me $3500 for it I'd sell it in a heartbeat and move on.
I bought mine because I was looking for something between my van and my sports car. I had a price range in mind and it was well within it. It was also the ONLY FWD car on the list. Without the VE or the 5spd it wouldn't have made the cut either. I'm happy with the car and the price I paid for it. I'm not so sure I'd be so happy if I'd paid more. But that's me. To me the Max is a nice car for what it is. After massaging things it handles pretty well and runs out decently. I like it, but if someone offered me $3500 for it I'd sell it in a heartbeat and move on.
08-20-2003, 09:23 AM
#18
In my area, a mint VE 5-sp with only 70k would fetch $5 grand +
Originally posted by shoult
I'm not gonna convince anybody here that $4k is too much for a 12 year old car cause you won't go out and look hard enough. If you want a 92 VE 5spd bad enougfh you'll pay what's asked. If your happy with that, fine.
I bought mine because I was looking for something between my van and my sports car. I had a price range in mind and it was well within it. It was also the ONLY FWD car on the list. Without the VE or the 5spd it wouldn't have made the cut either. I'm happy with the car and the price I paid for it. I'm not so sure I'd be so happy if I'd paid more. But that's me. To me the Max is a nice car for what it is. After massaging things it handles pretty well and runs out decently. I like it, but if someone offered me $3500 for it I'd sell it in a heartbeat and move on.
I'm not gonna convince anybody here that $4k is too much for a 12 year old car cause you won't go out and look hard enough. If you want a 92 VE 5spd bad enougfh you'll pay what's asked. If your happy with that, fine.
I bought mine because I was looking for something between my van and my sports car. I had a price range in mind and it was well within it. It was also the ONLY FWD car on the list. Without the VE or the 5spd it wouldn't have made the cut either. I'm happy with the car and the price I paid for it. I'm not so sure I'd be so happy if I'd paid more. But that's me. To me the Max is a nice car for what it is. After massaging things it handles pretty well and runs out decently. I like it, but if someone offered me $3500 for it I'd sell it in a heartbeat and move on.
08-20-2003, 03:43 PM
#20
I own a 93 VE 5spd and from what everyones saying here i agree with the fact they are hard to find. I stumbled on mine and diddnt even know it was rare till i went to get one for my wife. i found NUMEROUS gxe's and se autos but they just can stick with the VE 5spd. so i got her a 98 altima.
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