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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 07:55 PM
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3rd Gen Wish List

As some of you may know, I have been trying to get new products out there for us Maxima owners. I have been concentrating on the 4th and 5th gen because I own a 4th gen and a good friend owns a 5th gen.
I have a few new products under my belt and a couple more on their way.

I would like to know if there is anything that I can help in trying to get manufactured for the 3rd gens. I always see posts about the 3rd gens getting left out.. Now's your chance to speak up..

Post up your wishlist or vote on items on other people's wishlist so that we can see if there really is a demand for those items on your list.
With this thread, if I can't come through I'll gladly pass the ideas on to someone who can.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 08:09 PM
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it be nice to see more stuff but most 3rd geners wont give up the money to have anything made
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 08:10 PM
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it be nice to see more stuff but most 3rd geners wont give up the money to have anything made
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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A non-deafening custom exhaust with a dual option.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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i would coil overs and a turbo kit
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 08:17 PM
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No one would really need to front any money to have it made.. In the event that what everyone wants made is something expensive, I would ask people to prepay, at a discounted price, to offset costs.. But for the most part, I should be able to cover most of the costs as long as I can feel secure in knowing that people will buy whatever it is that is being manufactured.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 08:26 PM
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well you haven't stated WHAT exactly you CAN make...people will holler turbo kit, coil-overs(which would both be wastes IMO) this and that, blah blah but what exactly can you produce?
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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Whatever you need, I'll go get.. If I can't, I'll pass this thread on to someone who can.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 09:00 PM
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a greddy like exhaust without the high pirce would be sweet
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 09:06 PM
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yea ... deffinatly a COIL over set .. and a turbo kit ... would be awsome. i dont know about anyone else but i'd pay the X-tra money for some quality stuff, even a polished intake manifold or what about a super charger like the 4th's have ... that would be nice. and some headers. ummm ... an ingniition system. rear strut bar. some interior parts like a nice... i mean NICE dash kit. some exterior parts ... not ricey though.
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Good luck getting these people to fork over any money for squat. It took almost 4 months just to get enough orders to have a gauge pod made for the car.

Cattman has posted several times about making coilovers for around $1200 or so, and had about 5 people say they wanted them, but no money.

I've put up threads like this several times... I've made several of the parts they yell and scream that they want, then nobody comes up with the money after it's done.

Just last week, I put togethe a hyperground type kit. I've had ONE person send me money for it. I've gotten better response from the Neon forums about me making some for them.


I hate to say it, but don't bother trying. it's a waste of your time. I've made brake kits, suspension mods, engine mods, speaker pods, several other things and they don't sell for !@)#(!.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 09:51 PM
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I have a question

Don't mean to post off topic but......

Matt, what have you made for our 3rd gens, besides your hyperground kits? And what have you made for the VG if anything?

I really like your hyperground kit idea and went straight under the hood of my car looking for the ground connections but could only spot a couple. I checked in my service manual for grounds finding nothing, and I have a hard time understanding those schematics for all the electrical.

If the hospital that I work at wasn't going down the drain I'd take one of the flywheels off your hands. And don't tell me that's why they invented credit. hehehehe You don't want me to explain that one. Do you still have any flys left? And are they for both VG and VE applications? Let me know if you still have one and we might be able to work something out.

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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
Good luck getting these people to fork over any money for squat. It took almost 4 months just to get enough orders to have a gauge pod made for the car.

Cattman has posted several times about making coilovers for around $1200 or so, and had about 5 people say they wanted them, but no money.

I've put up threads like this several times... I've made several of the parts they yell and scream that they want, then nobody comes up with the money after it's done.

Just last week, I put togethe a hyperground type kit. I've had ONE person send me money for it. I've gotten better response from the Neon forums about me making some for them.


I hate to say it, but don't bother trying. it's a waste of your time. I've made brake kits, suspension mods, engine mods, speaker pods, several other things and they don't sell for !@)#(!.
what engine mods did you come up with? you seem to have some very purposeful ideas and i dont recall you being behind any engine mods..i'm very curious.
the hyperground kit, i can kind of see why no one bought it from you..i personally think its a great idea but i'd rather spend time than money doing it.
i've found that alot of 3rd gen'ers are hardcore DIY'ers or cheapskates who just whine about nothing "cool" being availble, dont get me wrong theres a few inbetween but generally those are the two main groups. hope i didnt offend anyone with the cheapskate comment (i'm a cheapskate so i guess it takes one to know one )
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxMoJo
As some of you may know, I have been trying to get new products out there for us Maxima owners. I have been concentrating on the 4th and 5th gen because I own a 4th gen and a good friend owns a 5th gen.
I have a few new products under my belt and a couple more on their way.

I would like to know if there is anything that I can help in trying to get manufactured for the 3rd gens. I always see posts about the 3rd gens getting left out.. Now's your chance to speak up..

Post up your wishlist or vote on items on other people's wishlist so that we can see if there really is a demand for those items on your list.
With this thread, if I can't come through I'll gladly pass the ideas on to someone who can.
lightened pulley SET. mostly i'm interested in a very underdriven p/s pulley (obviously lightened also) and lightened alternator pulley(NOT underdriven). i already have a lightened UDP (yes i know a UDP is lighter, but mine is extra light). even if you're interested in just doing a 1-off for me on this, PM me about pricing/downtime, my car wont be driven for another month again so sending my pulleys isnt a big deal.
hmm, what else..rear strut bar for cheap ($50 or less), a bada$$ front strut bar that works with VEs (neuspeed 4 post type thing comes to mind), some kind of service where we send our intake manifolds and you gasket match and polish them.
also how about a flyweight flywheel (by flyweight i mean under 10lb), i know its not practical for some people but hey, its a wishlist right? if it revs any slower than an F1 car, its too slow
if i think of anything else, i'll post it...
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 10:48 PM
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I've been looking for a spoiler like this one for my max. Was even going to buy that one on the Q45 and mod it to fit but they no longer make it.
So that's one thing I want.



And like any other 3rd genner a turbo or supercharger kit.
I've been saving up since there are rumors that a kit might be available soon. I would make one if I was mechanically incline enough but just not at that point.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 10:52 PM
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just thought of something else, how about a supercharger kit for those of us who dont have an a/c compressor?i think it would mount pretty easily to that bracket...i dont know, me and my left field ideas.

edit: showing my ignorance, water cooled s/c with a sealed oiling system like some roots blowers?
Old Sep 23, 2003 | 12:03 AM
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The Pathfinder VG has been supercharged before. I would be willing to offer my car as the platform for a VG SC kit. I'll have money, but it will be coming in small squirts...

would it be ICed? PM me and we'll talk about the feasability of either a turbo or a SC kit.

oh, I found a t3/t4 hybrid for 400 NEW, so that is a big factor in the cost...all we need after that in terms of big parts is a wastegate, BOV, and IC. then as an option we could have the VG30ET or VG30DETT fuel pump and the VG30ET injectors.

I would also be interested in some N/A headers and some turbo headers for ours. my friend and his dad work in a fabrication shop and his dad is a certified structural TIG welder, so we have the labor for cheap. all we need is someone with header experience, or someone who is willing to learn (ME!!) to get the math of it and do some drawings.

I already have a cheap, good, professional looking CAI in the works for the VE and the VG.

how about some GOOD looking body kits other than stillen. all the sarona designs and wings west (do they even have one?) kits look like @ss.

a couple ideas...
Old Sep 23, 2003 | 05:30 AM
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the usual.... but when its time to fork over cash people disapear....as usual these "wish list" posts are funny

everything mentioned short of the turbo kit and Q45 spoiler you people have had a chance at getting, after a while its time to stop asking and start paying, thats why GDs on here fail or BARELY got through
Old Sep 23, 2003 | 05:49 AM
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That Q45 spoiler.. what year is that for? Does any one actually have one?
Old Sep 23, 2003 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxMoJo
As some of you may know, I have been trying to get new products out there for us Maxima owners. I have been concentrating on the 4th and 5th gen because I own a 4th gen and a good friend owns a 5th gen.
I have a few new products under my belt and a couple more on their way.

I would like to know if there is anything that I can help in trying to get manufactured for the 3rd gens. I always see posts about the 3rd gens getting left out.. Now's your chance to speak up..

Post up your wishlist or vote on items on other people's wishlist so that we can see if there really is a demand for those items on your list.
With this thread, if I can't come through I'll gladly pass the ideas on to someone who can.

First of all, let me get on my and offer MY $.02 worth...

Matt's offered a couple of things on this site from time to time in the form of GD's and such. And while I do, in theory, agree with him and Addae about what happens when it comes down to giving up the dough for ANY mod for 3rd gen's, I'm liking the fact that you'd even TRY to get something started so I give you mad props.

So, I think it's unfair for everyone to try to shoot you down before the plane even gets off the ground...

Now, with that being said, here is MY personal "wish list" and what I'd be looking at:

Cosmetically
  1. CF Hood (cheaper than FI's prices)
  2. CF fender (or even steel, if some louvers are offered)
  3. better built OEM-type wing (although that Q45 wing looks promising)
Performance
  1. S/C or turbo (although us VE owners may be S.O.L due to space limitations)
  2. Coilover suspension upgrade (anyone explore that Sentra option??)
  3. Headers

That's about it, from my end... Next!!!!
Old Sep 23, 2003 | 06:36 AM
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the 3rd gen factory spoiler in fiberglasss. I live in elmhurst and would have no problems letting you use my car.
Old Sep 23, 2003 | 07:18 AM
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SeaMax, I think this is the wing you are looking for, it hangs off the back identical to that Q45 and it is made for the Maxima. When I met TOPEND at a meet he wouldnt tell me where he got it, he wanted to be the only one with it, even though I didnt want it. You might try searching, I THINK it is the wings west spolier.

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Why would you want a factory spoiler? Don't they sell 'em on ebay or something?
Old Sep 23, 2003 | 07:24 AM
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Why would you want a factory spoiler? Don't they sell 'em on ebay or something?
they're not a direct fit I believe. The factory spoiler on the 3rd gen is made out of a sponge material somewhat like a nurf football. Just a suggestion and plus many of our spoiler are lifting and separating from our trunks.
Old Sep 23, 2003 | 07:28 AM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2432999480

So you're saying that this doesn't fit?
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why should I bother with making engine mods, since they're already out there? Warpspeed, Cattman, Stillen, JWT all make several intake models and exhaust to choose from. I see no need in trying to compete with huge companies like that. I would end up working for pennies on the dollar to try to produce parts cheaper than warpspeed.

I'm working on phenolic intake manifold spacer with another member now.
I don't have the resources to do cams, flyhweels, or other parts that require precision machining.
I've done several group deals on suspension stuff, and am working on several other parts right now that will make your car corner so well your brain will ooze out the side of your head.

I've done custom brakes on a couple of cars, and posted every writeup that I've done for them. I also pioneered the rear disc conversion if you'd like to go back about 4 years and look at the pictures.

I worked with Warpspeed in pioneering their Y pipes and subframe connectors. My Maximas were guinea pigs for both of them.

most of what people are asking for is already out there, but it's either too expensive for most of your tastes, or it's not in bolt-on kit form and you're afraid to do anything custom.

and yes, I still have fidanza flyhweels for VG and VE in my garage. They're still $350 for whomever wants one.

The hyperground kits for VG will be available as soon as someone is willing to come to Houston and let me work on their car.

I don't mess with Cosmetic stuff because I don't like Rice. if it doesn't make the car go faster or handle better, then I don't really care. I've had the same yellow spot on my bumper for two years now because I don't care about appearances.

Now, what would you like me to produce that isn't out there yet? I've probably either worked on it or can tell you why it couldn't/shouldn't be done.

i.e. lightened underdrive power steering pulley-- the pulley must be that size as the bolts holding the pulley onto the bracket are behind the pulley. you have to get a socket through the holes in the pulley to get to them. See how close the bolt holes are to the edge of the pulley? by the time you make that pulley out of aluminum, you can't make it any smaller without sacrificing strength.
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Alternator pulley.. the alt pulley doesn't weigh a lot as-is. wouldn't do much good to lighten it with everything else in the system being the way it is.

and the fidanza flywheel weighs about 10.5 lb or so already. if you want less rotating mass, you're better off going with a smaller diameter racing clutch than to lighten the flywheel any more.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2432999480

So you're saying that this doesn't fit?
It probably will but also he doesn't mention in his auction what material it is made of, thats something that would worry me. I am going to e-mail him and see what material it made of.

Matt has done a lot but its true most 3rd gen owners ask for stuff and there is always a set of 3rd gen owners who are able to participate in the group buy but then there is a problem with filling the spots needed to have something made for us. I have pretty much bought all of my mods through big companies. But something like the spoiler I think would be a good thing to go through with since a lot of people need it and most importantly to me it compliments the car perfectly and you don't have to go through the trouble of getting a trunk with no holes to fit an aftermarket or having the stock holes filled in to have a spoiler fit in. A direct fit fiberglass spoiler is what I still ask for.
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Your crossmember looks cracked in that pic. You must really drive your car hard.
Old Sep 23, 2003 | 08:12 AM
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I don't mess with Cosmetic stuff because I don't like Rice.




Originally Posted by Matt93SE
I've had the same yellow spot on my bumper for two years now because I don't care about appearances.

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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 08:16 AM
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i unfortuanitly am guilty of alot of these complaints and i will admit that it would be nice to have some more options but like most i dont have gobs of money laying around to jump on things id like to get but if i knew these things were avalible and i liked them i would start saving for lets say some form of forced induction kit but it may take a year to get the money together so really the only way any of these expensive items are going to be made is the company is going to have to take the first hit and then wait it out but the product will evetiualy become profitable
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all these people say turbo kit, but most dont even have the money for it, and they think once you bolt the kit on thats it, they have no idea about the mantainace on a FI car. But by all means go for it, Ill buy it but dont count on many other peope who will put down 4k+ on a car they got from their mom or paid under 2k for.

Thing I think we could use.

A different body kit, (dont make it to extreme because it wont sell ( I also have some Photoshops from the last time someone was making us a bodykit.)

Turbo

coil overs

headers

rear roof spoiler (deflector or whatever)

some aftermarket lights (one piece if possible) more like 4th gen housings.

different style grille




like I said I could put up the money for any of these (but the kit because Im happy with my stillen) and Im ready to but I wont hold my breath.
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what about something simple for now.. chrome gauge rings? are there any for 3rd gens? do people even want then?
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what about something simple for now.. chrome gauge rings? are there any for 3rd gens? do people even want then?
the thing is most of us could do that, as of now your not much different from the other eleventy billion people who have said the same things you said about making stuff. Im not knocking you but dont expect people to show much intrest untill you deliver.
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As far as delivering on the gauge rings, it'd be no problem, I just have to place the order. (You guys have regular round gauges, right?) I just want to see if people actually want them.. I don't wanna order 50 sets for 2 people to purchase.
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Originally Posted by MaxMoJo
As far as delivering on the gauge rings, it'd be no problem, I just have to place the order. (You guys have regular round gauges, right?) I just want to see if people actually want them.. I don't wanna order 50 sets for 2 people to purchase.

I mean nobody mentioned them but people would probably buy them,
Id rather have some of the other stuff because like I said gauge rings can be home made, make something we need.
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would love to tackle a bigger project than gauge rings...its just the quickest/easiest thing I can get right now...
Spoilers - easy too.. Just need a sample
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I would buy a alumiminum dash kit !! I think a spoiler is a very good idea too. As far as making things that cost lots of money like coilovers and turbos you will have at the most 5-6 willing to put up the money for it so dont even waste your time. Gauge rings we can buy on ebay for nothing.
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Originally Posted by MaxMoJo
would love to tackle a bigger project than gauge rings...its just the quickest/easiest thing I can get right now...
Spoilers - easy too.. Just need a sample

how bout the something like the rear roof spoiler like the 4th and 5th gens have?
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how bout the something like the rear roof spoiler like the 4th and 5th gens have?
i second that
Old Sep 23, 2003 | 09:22 AM
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how bout the something like the rear roof spoiler like the 4th and 5th gens have?
I'd buy one.

And yes, we do need a better/different spoiler. Mine is about to fall off.



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