I have the intermittant stalling problem that seems to happen to a lot of people, the car will be going along and then just lose all power in the engine and then jerk like the power is comming back but it doesnt let me rev till it goes back to idle... so I pulled all my coil packs(92SE) and saw nothing suspicious... I pulled one of the plugs and it was a regular champion spark plug... could this be a contributing factor to/the cause of my stalling problems? Oh yeah it also does the stall thing when sitting idleing... it seems to run rich and the plugs were pertty black....

 

I have info from a nissan tech that told me to use only the ngk plugs that are supposed to come with the car (do a search, I mentioned the part number before). He said that bosch plugs can cause the coil packs to "spike." He didn't mention anything about champion, though.

Here's what he emailed me:

"I really think you're problem is those plugs. They make the computer shut down for a second. The check engine light wont come on and no codes will be set, but the problem is there. I have'nt seen too many cam sensors go bad, but i'll look into it for you and let you know. The bad thing about the Bosch plugs is that after they've been in there for a while they fry the coils. Good thing is they dont hurt the ECM. So start with the plugs and see what happens, you might be surprised."

I had another Nissan Tech tell me it was likely my Cam Position Sensor. I have a used one coming my way, but I haven't received it yet. The thing is my car had the 120k service done (now it has 146k) at a Nissan dealership. I haven't checked the plugs since I corresponded with the second tech (the one in quotes) but I am assuming they are the stock NGKs. Even if it is time to replace them, they shouldn't cause the same problems as the "wrong" plugs.

Anyway, I still have the same stalling problem and I am leaning toward the cam position sensor or the coil packs. It seems like several .org guys have put in new coil packs and it has solved this problem.

I plan on new CPS, new coil packs and I am going to replace the plugs, too. If all that doesn't work, I am going to hang myself (J/K)

I just don't have a stretch of time to get these things done right now. I have a week of vacation the week of Christmas and that's when I hope to get all of this done. I'll try to keep you updated on my progress. Hopefully, you can do the same.

Good Luck,

Chris

 

Sounds good... My other totaled maxima never had a stalling problem so I'm going to swap the parts of that engine that are usually attributed to the stalling problem... hopefully I can find the right combo to make the engine run better...

 

it really dont take that long to change those things if i had a 10mm, 12mm and sparkplug socket on long extension i could change the plugs, coils and cps in less than 15 minuites its super easy just kind of a pain to line up the cps sproket

 

i don't see how a wrong spark plug will cause an engine to stall. if it's sparking correctly the enigne should run. i would check the coils and the injectors, since you said it's running really rich. have you been using those injector cleaners?

 

You'd be very surprised at what the wrong plug can do to a car

 

ok I pulled up the NGK website and found a whole list of plugs for the maxima... my question is do all those plugs work well with the engine like the oem plugs?

 

92 se stock # 2271 they're a laser platinums so i sell for about $10 each.

 

I know about the PFR5C-11 laser platinum plugs but i was wondering about the iridium plugs they have...

 

I would think that those iridium plugs would work, too, but just to be safe, I would just use the PFR5C-11 that is the direct replacement.

The deal with me changing stuff, subs1000, is my max is our second car. I drive it just four miles a day and rarely go faster than 25 mph, unless I hit the canyons behind my house after work or something. I just haven't gotten around to it. I like to do everything at once. So, on vacation I will change the oil, rotate the tires, replace all the stuff I have been planning (y-pipe, pop charger, new steering wheel, CPS, plugs, coil packs) and see what happens.

 

Dibs on the old one? I'm really tired of my star-trek wheel.
btw, do you think the guy who made your arm rest could make a new shift boot?

 

I have ngk plugs from pepboy on my 92 se and it still stalls out. My cps sensor is new. I notice it usually stall when the egine is a normal operating temp. I can not figure out what it is.

 

which ones did you get?
did you check your coils while you had them out?
is your engine firing on all six cylinders?
also check your injectors.
Check your connectors. they may be loose

 

The car is running on all 6 cyclinder. The coil and injectors are fine. The car runs very smooth when the car does not stall.
I have another engine and I switch injectors and coil and it still does the same thing. I could not find anything from the service manual. I made an appointment to have the dealer check it out. This is the first time that I have to take my car in for service.

 

Damn, phat, you are making me nervous about the stuff I am replacing.

MrGone, I PM'd you.

 

didn't mean to scare you. The thing is the car stall intermittenly. If it stalls all the time, then it will be easier for me diagnose. Plus, the cps, and coil are not cheap.

 

have you replaced your throttle position sensor?

 

I got new plugs.. but they are autolite, anything I should know about these plugs? My dad said they were the same thing as the NGK so I want to know if the quality is the same and if there are known problems that these pulgs cause like spiking and things like that

 

I have a question for you guys, just something I noticed...

Does the stalling only happen when the car is warmed up? ie. has it ever happened while the car was still on high idle, or the temp gauge wasnt in the middle, or close to it?

hmmm????

 

red92maxse,

The tps was my first suspect, but its not it.

Mr. Gone,
yes the car stall when at normal operating temp. It idles fine and smooth and all of a sudden, it dies without notice.

 

Mine will die regardless of temp or if it's still cool. I've had it stall after driving for an hour and two minutes after pulling it out of the garage. I don't get my car up to full temp very often, though.

It also only stalls when I stomp on it and then usually only after apx 4k rpm.

 

came back from the dealer. They could not find any code or anything wrong with it. If there was a code, I would have known it already. They requested that i leave the car with them.

 

keep us posted, this stalling bit is irritating.