Power and rust problem on 89SE
#1
Power and rust problem on 89SE
Hello! I love my white 89SE auto and want to drive it for a long time. I just need a bit of advice
I seem to have a power/accelleration problem. The RPMs will rise to 3000 when accellerating from about 10kmph and will stay there until I hit about 70kmph, at which time the RPMs will drop to 2400. Highway on-ramp is different, the RPMs will go much higher and the transmission seems to be "slow" changing gears from 2nd to 3rd. I had a look around here using Search and it seems that this problem might be related to the O2 sensor?
And now for the rust...
I am getting alot of rust on the wheel wells, on the outside bubbling up in the white paint. What can I do to stop the rust from spreading? Or is this a "cancer" and the body is pretty much done for?
Thanks
I seem to have a power/accelleration problem. The RPMs will rise to 3000 when accellerating from about 10kmph and will stay there until I hit about 70kmph, at which time the RPMs will drop to 2400. Highway on-ramp is different, the RPMs will go much higher and the transmission seems to be "slow" changing gears from 2nd to 3rd. I had a look around here using Search and it seems that this problem might be related to the O2 sensor?
And now for the rust...
I am getting alot of rust on the wheel wells, on the outside bubbling up in the white paint. What can I do to stop the rust from spreading? Or is this a "cancer" and the body is pretty much done for?
Thanks
#2
Originally Posted by septimus
Hello! I love my white 89SE auto and want to drive it for a long time. I just need a bit of advice
I seem to have a power/accelleration problem. The RPMs will rise to 3000 when accellerating from about 10kmph and will stay there until I hit about 70kmph, at which time the RPMs will drop to 2400. Highway on-ramp is different, the RPMs will go much higher and the transmission seems to be "slow" changing gears from 2nd to 3rd. I had a look around here using Search and it seems that this problem might be related to the O2 sensor?
And now for the rust...
I am getting alot of rust on the wheel wells, on the outside bubbling up in the white paint. What can I do to stop the rust from spreading? Or is this a "cancer" and the body is pretty much done for?
Thanks
I seem to have a power/accelleration problem. The RPMs will rise to 3000 when accellerating from about 10kmph and will stay there until I hit about 70kmph, at which time the RPMs will drop to 2400. Highway on-ramp is different, the RPMs will go much higher and the transmission seems to be "slow" changing gears from 2nd to 3rd. I had a look around here using Search and it seems that this problem might be related to the O2 sensor?
And now for the rust...
I am getting alot of rust on the wheel wells, on the outside bubbling up in the white paint. What can I do to stop the rust from spreading? Or is this a "cancer" and the body is pretty much done for?
Thanks
rust: strip the car down to bare metal, sandblast/cut the rust out, resculpt body. epoxy prime coat it, then paint it.
#3
Did you try checking your ECU for any codes that it may be throwing? Search for a howto on this, or just give this thread a few days and someone may be kind enough to post a howto for you.
Also, about the rust, you may have more rust on your car than what you can actually see. You may be in for a new car soon (which can be a good thing, since this may be your shot at a ve 5spd).
Also, about the rust, you may have more rust on your car than what you can actually see. You may be in for a new car soon (which can be a good thing, since this may be your shot at a ve 5spd).
#7
What I mean is, the RPMs go VERY high with a light touch to the pedal, even though I would not actually be gaining speed quickly. Like I was practically in neutral or something. If I were to press the pedal a little further, not much, my RPMs will rise to 5000 or so. I am interpreting this as power loss, thinking that all of the tourque my engine is producing is not er... translating to the wheels. However, once I hit that magic 70kmph a gear change occurs and accelleration is much much better.
Speaking of gear change, if I am at a slower speed, like in stop-and-go traffic, rolling along between 50 and 20kmph, If I were to hit the brakes at 50 and slow down to 20, then press the gas and try to accellerate back to 50 or so I experience a long delay in gear shifting, where the car does not respond to gas for a few seconds... then a gear shift occurs and BOOM I am knocked back into my seat as my car suddenly starts to move.
I will check out the ECU and see if it is returning any codes
Thanks for the help, I'm not worthy
Speaking of gear change, if I am at a slower speed, like in stop-and-go traffic, rolling along between 50 and 20kmph, If I were to hit the brakes at 50 and slow down to 20, then press the gas and try to accellerate back to 50 or so I experience a long delay in gear shifting, where the car does not respond to gas for a few seconds... then a gear shift occurs and BOOM I am knocked back into my seat as my car suddenly starts to move.
I will check out the ECU and see if it is returning any codes
Thanks for the help, I'm not worthy
#11
Originally Posted by septimus
And oh... about the 5spd VG or VE... I'll look into it to see what the fuss is all about
#12
If you see bubbles in the paint chances are there is a hole behind it. I had the same problem and tried sanding it down. It looks 10 times worse because not only did the surface rust come off but so did huge chunks behind it. You may as well just consider it a lost cause.
Basically your car is rusting from the inside out.
Basically your car is rusting from the inside out.
#15
not sure how much bubbling you have in your paint but try removing the tires and removing the existing rust then use some rust-mort you can get at body shop make sure to get the flakey rust off but leave a little so the solution can meand to it. next get a spray can of undercoating and spray the underside of the car where the rust is this should help tp slow it until u can get it to a body shop. I am doing it now on mine, will let you know about it
#16
IMO, just put that undercoat spray on in as many areas as you can... it's true the car is rusting from the inside... I recently replaced my carpet and seats in my interior, and hell, there was just as much rust on the inside as there was on the outside; unfortunately it's a lost cause, the only thing you can do is slow it down.
#17
Originally Posted by torontomaxima
IMO, just put that undercoat spray on in as many areas as you can... it's true the car is rusting from the inside... I recently replaced my carpet and seats in my interior, and hell, there was just as much rust on the inside as there was on the outside; unfortunately it's a lost cause, the only thing you can do is slow it down.
#18
Man I love Toronto mechanics... I go to one and he wants to replace the transmission. Price? $1000 or thereabouts for parts and labor. I go to another, he sez its something to do with the clutch, and wants $120 for labor, another says that everything is broken and that I should scrap the car for $50. I think I will have to keep looking around, since I tell everyone that I get quote from that the transmission is slipping.
#19
Originally Posted by jkmay01
so what can be done in this instance? cut out major chunks of the body to remove the rusting areas and hope u get it all and then maybe weld clean metal back in? let me know?
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