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Old 02-10-2004 | 10:55 PM
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VE turbo MANIFOLD interest

just looking to see how much you guys would pay for turbo manifold setup for the VE.
dont start flaming me, i dont wanna hear it, you're going to say "put your manifold where your mouth is" and i will, but i can go about it 2 different ways (the first is making a 1-off setup, the second is having it mass produced).
this is by no means a kit, it is strictly manifolds (who needs a kit anyway? you're looking to boost a VE, the motor which has the least aftermarket of any maxima) made of thick steel, ceramic coated, heat wrapped..whatever.
i am basically looking to see if i should start contacting people to get it mass produced or just keep it to myself. no it will not be out soon, yes this thread will die, like i said i'm just looking for an indication of how i should go about producing it.
Old 02-10-2004 | 10:56 PM
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I already have one thanks.
Old 02-10-2004 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I already have one thanks.
nice...now when its finished, can you take some good videos?
Old 02-10-2004 | 11:05 PM
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so manifold itself, not like a y-pipe?

The higher compression should make that spool quite nicely

I have no interest in the sense that I have no money.
Old 02-10-2004 | 11:08 PM
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so manifold itself, not like a y-pipe?

The higher compression should make that spool quite nicely

I have no interest in the sense that I have no money.
right, manifold...as in does not use stock manifolds.
higher compression? who me?
you and i are in the same boat with the money thing.
Old 02-11-2004 | 02:48 AM
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+1 for the money thing. However, things are getting better and if you get interest, I might be able to scrounge up some money. What were you thinking for a target price?
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Manifold is basically useless by itself unless you're rerouting where the exhaust exit is.
now a y-pipe setup...
Old 02-11-2004 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by MaDMaX024
"put your manifold where your mouth is"
thats your best bet...you have been on here long enough to know talk is cheap
Old 02-11-2004 | 08:13 AM
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i still dont understand why you want new manifolds when they have nothing to do with a turbo setup, youll still need a y pipe to connect them together and the stock manifolds should work fine. i dont fthink different manifolds would make a turbo spool up more than maybe 100 to 200rpms fast than stock ones so i dont think they would be cost effective at all
Old 02-11-2004 | 08:30 AM
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Yaaay more people talking shat about stuff they don't know.

if you don't have a manifold, what are you going to bolt the turbo to?
Old 02-11-2004 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by subs1000w
i still dont understand why you want new manifolds when they have nothing to do with a turbo setup, youll still need a y pipe to connect them together and the stock manifolds should work fine. i dont fthink different manifolds would make a turbo spool up more than maybe 100 to 200rpms fast than stock ones so i dont think they would be cost effective at all
i would be including whatever is needed to get the exhaust from the heads to the turbo. the rest is on you, sorry if i wasnt clear about it.
Old 02-11-2004 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
Yaaay more people talking shat about stuff they don't know.

if you don't have a manifold, what are you going to bolt the turbo to?
yaaay...oh wait, you're referring to me
Old 02-11-2004 | 09:03 AM
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Actually, I was talking about Subs...
Old 02-11-2004 | 09:04 AM
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i think everyone seems to be missing the point of the thread..let me repeat myself, if you think its a dumb idea, dont reply, if you tell me i'm not capable, i've heard it before (alot of things in and on my car are things which "i'm not capable" of making work), and i dont care to hear it again. if you're interested, let me know what its worth to you, if you're not interested, dont reply..its not terribly difficult.
Old 02-11-2004 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
Actually, I was talking about Subs...
why thank you matt, you dont think i'm completely ignorant..that makes my day..haha
calling today to get the sheet for your spacer..should have it soon, i'll PM ya.
Old 02-11-2004 | 09:23 AM
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yeah, well people thought I was ignorant at one time too....

http://www.mattblehm.com/pics/car/br...s/im000403.jpg
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Old 02-11-2004 | 09:24 AM
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Well this thread is going well. If you have one custom done, you can always get it mass produced somehow. DAMHIK.

So your question is somewhat moot.
Old 02-11-2004 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by subs1000w
i still dont understand why you want new manifolds when they have nothing to do with a turbo setup, youll still need a y pipe to connect them together and the stock manifolds should work fine. i dont fthink different manifolds would make a turbo spool up more than maybe 100 to 200rpms fast than stock ones so i dont think they would be cost effective at all
Manifolds have everything to do with a turbo setup. What do you think the turbo is bolted to? The tailpipe?
Old 02-11-2004 | 09:55 AM
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1. Matt's manifold response was funny because its true.
2. I'm so proud, I understood what "DAMHIK" meant, normally I suck at trying to figure those out.
3. Pat isn't some llama, he's built stuff in the past, and if he wants it done, he'll get it done.
4. I think it would be cool if 'we' (as in 3rd gens) stayed away from the whole Y-pipe setup, thats how every other turbo setup that is running right now is, running the manifold (or more correctly, the header) setup would be cool because it is so much different compared to what everyone else is doing.

On a side note, stop distracting me stupid .org, I'm trying to get my suspension done.
Old 02-11-2004 | 09:56 AM
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ok, y'all got me confused here.
how can 1 turbo be bolted to 2 manifolds?
Old 02-11-2004 | 10:00 AM
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It can't unless you connect them

Originally Posted by internetautomar
ok, y'all got me confused here.
how can 1 turbo be bolted to 2 manifolds?
Old 02-11-2004 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
ok, y'all got me confused here.
how can 1 turbo be bolted to 2 manifolds?
Not Manifold, Header, mistar BowTie Boy
I'll wait for someone who has one to post about it, but I must say, it is a rather ingenious idea.
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hey brian, I just sent you a PM bout those parts I ordered..... status?
Old 02-11-2004 | 10:13 AM
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use a crossover pipe like the Z's did and like i'm doing on mine. if you're making manifolds from scratch it shouldn't be too hard to run them to the side for a crossover pipe depending on what kind of room is in the ve engine bay.


the crossover pipe is covered up in this picture so i'll try finding some better ones but that's generally how they are ran. i'd do it a bit differently though to where the crossover pipe met at the turbo flange to keep the exhaust from hitting each other then being forced into the turbo.
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I am interested, but it is all about money. I have the nitch to dik off large amounts at once time *cough* saturday *cough*. I dont know if you are going to get the answers you are looking for though. Basically, nobody will do a GD type thread on these. They will want to see pics, then price, then you will start to sale a few here and there. But, I can tell you there are not many VEs then break that number down by the number of "hardcore VE owners" and what you have is slim pickens.

Basically, do the manifold, name your price and they will come...I have noticed this about many other things on the board.
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hey brian, I just sent you a PM bout those parts I ordered..... status?
shipped em on monday
Old 02-11-2004 | 10:42 AM
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Thanks brian..

my sentiments are exactly what Don said...

If you build it, they will come. slowly, but they will come.
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by manifold i thought they were talking about headers. im just saying it will cost alot more to have costom turbo headers/manifolds made than do like what 4signs and all the 4th and 5th gen guys did and uses a ypipe to conect the stock manifolds to the turbo. im not saying theres anything wrong with doing somthing different im just not interested in spending alot of unnessray money on things that work just fine like the stock manifolds
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subs... when you come up with a better design, please show and tell. Until then, STFU.
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subs... when you come up with a better design, please show and tell. Until then, STFU.
ahahahahahahaha LOL

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subs... when you come up with a better design, please show and tell. Until then, STFU.
subtle
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sorry if i offended you or anything i didnt mean it i was just giving my opinion but ill stop now
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sorry if i offended you or anything i didnt mean it i was just giving my opinion but ill stop now
just remember this saying:
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Old 02-11-2004 | 07:38 PM
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i used z31 manifolds (i have the VG) and moved the t3 flange to the crossover....i dunno if any of you guys could use that but it may work....do a lil trial and error
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Originally Posted by boosted3rdgen
i used z31 manifolds (i have the VG) and moved the t3 flange to the crossover....i dunno if any of you guys could use that but it may work....do a lil trial and error
pics of your set up?
Old 02-11-2004 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dmontzmax
I am interested, but it is all about money. I have the nitch to dik off large amounts at once time *cough* saturday *cough*. I dont know if you are going to get the answers you are looking for though. Basically, nobody will do a GD type thread on these. They will want to see pics, then price, then you will start to sale a few here and there. But, I can tell you there are not many VEs then break that number down by the number of "hardcore VE owners" and what you have is slim pickens.

Basically, do the manifold, name your price and they will come...I have noticed this about many other things on the board.
i agree - a GD on these wont fly, if i had the cash i would have a whole setup already.....
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pics of your set up?
bump for pics...
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pics not installed in the car would be nice.
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
ok, y'all got me confused here.
how can 1 turbo be bolted to 2 manifolds?
You can't, and you don't need to. All you're interested in doing is getting a source of high velocity gas to spin the turbo. The closer you can get to the head the better since the gasses lose velocity as they travel down the exhaust. The lose of velocity will affect the amount of lag you get for ANY specific turbo. Another thing that will affect lag is the length of the gases passage from the throttle body to the turbo. As the length increases, the amount of time it takes for throttle input to get to the turbo increase thus increasing "perceived" lag. Now both of these will add small amounts of lag each. But add them together.



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