I got in an accident, and now have a back, white, and gold color car. I need to repaint the hood and fender - does anyone know the propper procedure for doing this, from personal experience?


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Sand the areas you need to paint in order for teh paint to have something to grip on. One good coat of primer, then the coat of color. Let dry and another coat. Let dry and add a clear coat. If you want a good job done then your gonna need some good equipment and an airtight room where dust can't come in contact with the vehicle. If you need to ask how to paint a fender and a hood, you might want to contact a pro and have it do it for you.

 

Yeah, I would kinda like someone else to do it, so that it turns out well, but a big problem right now is money. It's trying to paint it myself, leave it 3 colors, or use spray paint of a simmilar color. I think trying it myself would be best.. Besides, I have an old 79 280ZX that I'm fixing up, and I'll also eventually have to paint many of the peices that had been in it's "accident"(before I got it, obvious front fender replaced, a few other parts of the body), so I think learning to paint a car will pay back several times over.

What are the problems you encounter with painting? Like, why do you pay so much to get a car painted (just banging out the dents, taking apart car, paint dripping?)
Thanks-

 

Mainly the fact that spray-painting the car will leave the body very spotty. I'm in the process of converting the garage to a paint room (with my stepfather), making it airtight and installing the heater fans. I got all the painting guns and compressors, (over $3,000 that i got for a mere $300)
If your ok with a spotty job and grains of dirt under the paint, then it shouldn't be a problem...

 

Uh either pay someone to do it RIGHT or leave it alone. If you screw the panels up by putting some crap paint on it, you will have to pay ALOT extra to have the shop deal the crap.

 

Hey DoomToo, where you from. Maybe when my paint room is complete i can do it for you...

 

You are missing a whole lot of steps for a good quality paint job. I hope you do a lot more research before you do any painting.

This is not a flame just pointing out that you need much more research...painting just isnt that simple.

first you need the right paper. You need the right filler (if needed) you need way more than one coat of primer I will probably prime my car 7 or 8 times (between block sandings...probably more and with 3 different types of primer at that...epoxy over bare metal...polyester for block sanding the panels nice and smooth and urethane to finish out the little sand scratches...polyester doesnt shrink like urethane can...even though urethane shrinks very little I still suggest using polyester for the major block sanding). You need to sand the primer with the correct paper also so it doesnt show through to the finish. 2 coats of color is a minimum and 1 coat of clear will not cut it either. Most clears are a 2 coat clear (assuming you are using bc/cc and not ss)...besides that you dont let the color "dry" you let it flash (times in the p sheets of the paint you choose. If you let it dry you would have to sand it again to get the next layer to stick...its called wet on wet.

I by no means know a whole lot about painting but have been learning by researching (and have painted a few small things...hoods, fenders, quarters, trunks, campers...etc.) they all came out great because I researched before I attempted.

I am just saying read, read, practice a little read some more practice some more...on and on...before you attempt to paint your car for the first time.

also you dont want your paint booth air tight...air needs to circulate. You need fans but you need filters too...again research.

I will be doing a whole car for the first time next weekend (hopefully). I will post pics when I am done (no its not my 93 people LOL).



sorry just saw how simple you made it sound and had to reply...no hard feelings .

 

No hard feelings awsm. I am just starting to get in the whole painting routine. After we had to pay $1,985 fo change and paint my mom's left fender i said "the hell with this. I'm never paying someone to paint my car again!" So I got together with my stepfather, we bought the tools and we will be attending many workshops before turning the garage upside down (although we have already started to move the subbport beams around, they were just in the way). By all means you are right. One should do much more research than I did before attempting to paint a car. Hopefully by the time my new bumper, hood and stillen kit come this summer, (together with a JDM engine, wish wish) I'll have enough experience. I have a 1986 Cordia Turbo and a 1981 JDM Corolla to practice on. Until then I'll be researching and studying.
Thanks for the heads up!!!

 

That would be nice, but judging from your picture, I doubt you're in Phoenix, AZ too... wow, thats alot of good info on painting, I don't know how I'm going to be able to do a good job though, I really don't have a sealed off room or garage that I can use :L But I REALLY want to get it done, I feel so ricer with with my vaccuum system acting up(=slow car), + loud bass, and three toned car. Girls don't even look at a car like that! :P Even a simmilar colored paint job would be better than white hood, black fender, and gold car. I guess I could find out if my buddy will let me use his garage, use the 2-5 coats primer, 2-3 coats paint, and if I have any extra money, the 2 coats of clear coat. Although I doubt I'll be able to afford the clear coat right now.. :L

 

Good...I was hoping you didnt take it the wrong way...didnt mean to sound like I was coming down on you. I had a bad day with a stuborn citrix server and just got finished messing with it when I saw the post.

Seriously if you email me I can send you some links (dont feel like looking them up right now because I am going to bed in a minute) on some good material to read and study...click on my name in my sig to email me.

Just be careful because this stuff is addictive. It can be enjoyable and a great hobby.

By the way what kind of gun and other equipment did you get. That was a heck of a deal you got.

Later,

 

you know you could have avoided 40 of your previous steps and had your car painted by now. we're all waiting........................................... .............

 

mabey he got caught up in other projects, some people are like that ya know



but yeah, if you have to ask just pay someone the money and have it done right, you dont want to have to pay for them to fix your mistakes.

 

did you have time to write this on your union break?

 

u don't want to rush a quality paint job. that's why people charge so much. they (a good shop) take the time to work out any flaws and spray a good coat of paint.

mike is right about the spray booth. you want a down draft booth that is filtered. i would also check w/ your local EPA to see if you need any filtering equipment. if you have neighbors close by they most likely will smell the paint..so please be considerate. if you want to spray on a more consistent basis then it's highly recommended you pick up a fresh air respirator. paint fumes in your lungs is not fun. iso paints are even worse.

 

both the 89 and the 93 were shot in a down draft spray booth. i never wet sanded out the 89, and i get alot of compliments on it and the 93 we did just beause we felt like it(didnt prep it as much so there was some dust) but it still looked great right out the box. if someone would send me a link of tyhe pictures he took of the 93 i would show people how it came out

 

can i borrow some time in that booth?

 

if it were mine i would say yeah, but i had to kiss alot of behind to get in there, and they wouldnt even let me shoot the cars, i had to have their painter do it( i helped mask off and clean the car off etc, but the paint didnt flow out of my hands

 

Thanks man! I will def. want to look at those links, I need all the help I can get if I'm going to go on with this project by the beginning of the summer :reading. Then we can see which Max. comes out better... (If you ever decide to paint yours...)

 

http://jzullo.com/kimsmax.zip