ChrisCheezer

Ok, so im doing a 5 speed swap real soon, (a few more parts left).
-hoping to somehow find a lsd tranny from a ve,i was wondering if the axels that go with that tranny will work on my vg hubs?

also, I herd the hardest part is mounting the new pedals... does anyone have a pic of the mounted clutch and brake? or any info what they did down there.

thanx in advance

shavedmax

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i'm pretty sure you have to use all vg stuff when doing the swap, ie 89-91 se 5speed. i think the 92 and up 5 speed wont bolt up, but i'm not 100% sure

btw, i have a vg one, but u can't have it

KLoWnPR109

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The trannies are different so I would imagine that they axles are different

ChrisCheezer

yeah i know... but

do u think they would use different hubs from 92-94????
- i need to buy a tranny soon and the axels to match..
- they made a 89-91 LSD right??


anymore info would help. thanx

Maxpwer

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-yes 92-94 SEs used different hubs
-no there was no lsd from 89-91 (no VG had lsd)

I've talked about this like a hundred times but..... if you want a VE tranny on your VG motor, you will need the VE trans, axles and spindles. You will also need to splice the two DIFFERENT speed sensor harnesses together (only a few wires, not that hard if your handy with a soldering iron)

ChrisCheezer

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....

damn.... i wanted that lsd so bad too, i guess im just going to hafta deal with a vg tranny.

-how are the spindles held on?..... just by the axel bolt?? and then the wheel bering is under that..right

Maxpwer

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-Its really not that hard to swap in a VE tranny, infact I highly recomend it.
-The spindles are held on by the two bolts on the strut (top), and the three bolts of the ball joint (bottom).
-The axle bolt would have to be removed to get the spidle off if thats what you are asking.... but no it doesnt hold it on.
-The wheel bearing is under the axle bolt? If by "under" you mean "behind" then yeah......

MrGone

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Anyone every try to stick the VE halfshaft into the outter CV or the VG half shaft part into a VE inner CV?

I would assume they are are larger, but worth a shot.

shavedmax

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chris you need a parts car, ve, vg whatever, but a complete car you can take everything off of. there are way to many little things you will pay out the a$$ for if you dont do that. drive around to some junk yards and find one that was a manual tranny, and ask the guy what you can work out.

metal_god98SE

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CHris, I have a 90 SE 5 spd white on black leather that woudl be a perfect parts car for you. I'm located in central MA. Everything works on it, it needs a brake line now.....its off the road, and just taking up space in my driveway. Let me know if you're interested. ...Gary

Matt93SE

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The VE axles are about 0.1" larger diameter than the VG axles. you can't mix axles, hubs, etc between cars, but you can swap them all over.

In fact, swapping spindles from a VE will be easier than the tranny itself, so I don't know why you're whining about it. it's 9 screws total. 2 for the brake caliper, 2 for the strut, 1 for the tie rod, 3 for the ball joint and 1 for the axle.

bonzelite

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matt is right. i was going to do this swap, too, when my tranny went out. and i discovered the reality of it. the entire driveline must be replaced. i cannot keep any VG stuff. hubs, spindles, half-shafts all must be from the VE to have the LSD.

i needed the car asap, and a friend did the work for an incredibly cheap price, so i just had the original tranny rebuilt only.

but next time.....

ChrisCheezer

its just more work then i planed on.. and more money., whateva....i still have a long way to go...before i even start. but im def. going to have this done by mid-summer.
- what about mounts?! must i get all VE tranny mounts too?
- and shift linkages?
-master and slave cyl... (i already have) from a vg.

i went down to junkyard and they guy told me he cant sell me that one VE 5spd but i can take any part i want off it.... i said " ok, ill take every single part" he looked at me like i was drunk... then he said i can have any part i need for my tranny swap for 500 bucks. but the car has to stay in there lot...

damn u VE lsd tranny ddaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmnnn yyyyyyooooooouuuuu

MrGone

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You do know that coming isn't spelled comming right?

shavedmax

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just tell the guy from thew junk yard to cut the nose off the ve, from the pilars forward, this way you have everything you need, and tell him to keep the sheetmetal, this way he doesnt charge you more.

Maxpwer

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The only things that are VE specific are the axles, spindles and tranny. The mounts, etc are the same on the VG.

Matt93SE

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Well he's so used to seeing it spelled "cumming" that he doesn't remember the proper spelling anymore.

ChrisCheezer

-oh snap, i need a spell check installed in my brain....

-front clip.. hmm.. sounds interesting, more expensive though.. When I can just give him the 500 and pull every part i need.
-Maybe I can negotiate with him.

shavedmax

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you pulling parts off in his yard should be an insurance liablility to him, in new york they wont let you do that.so he'll wanna take everything off, which means parts will be damaged or theyll forget stuff. itll take alot less time for him to take the torch to the front of the car than to have a guy there all day pulling stuff. the most he probably paid for the car is 300 bucks anyways, he still has whatever is left to try to sell. the only problem for you is transporting the nose home.

MrGone

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better make sure you get everything you need first time through.

Also its easier to have the other car there, then you know exactly where things go.

jwmaxse

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HA, where are you going to find one of those?

ChrisCheezer

-in my refrigerator

dont get me wrong guys if i could get the whole car for a good price i would do it.
-i just cant wait anylonger.. i need to start somethin! i think im going to install my new pedals, master cyl.

- do u think im going to have a problem with mixing a VG flywheel with a VE tranny?

-shavedmax, just wondering... when u need to get under ur car, do u still use a jack?..or do u lift a part and place a stand under it heh

Maxpwer

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Im hoping to find someone who bought a new one, and would trade his old one for a turbo.......

Maxpwer

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No. The flywheels and clutches are the same size. Just different bolt pattern on the VE flywheel.

MrGone

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Good, start out with that part. After you get the tranny back in the last thing you will want to do is install pedals and drill/grind out the MC hole.

You dont have a choice, lol. You will need to find a VG flywheel though.

89maxSE

hey chris...sorrry i'm taking so long w/ getting those pedals and **** to ya....been busy w/ the 240 trying to get it running and everything, but I didn't forget about you. I wrote myself a note to get my lazy a$$ out there and get the brake pedal assembly out. Anyone have any tips on how to get the pedal assembly out? I already have the clutch pedal assembly out, just need help on the brake pedal.

nismobaron

lsd's was an option on JDM VG max's - both stick & auto. Have thought about changing my stock tranny for the lsd (can't be bothered with the auto to stick conversion esp in Auckland where a stick shift would be a PIA in rush hour...).

Saw a VE powered max in my favorite junkyard last weekend with lsd auto & have been thinking about doing the swap. Now I know it can be done - even though there's a whole heap of work involved, I'll plan it out first so that when my VG tranny eventually dies, I can get it done in one weekend. I can get the whole lot for under NZ$400!

We didn't get the VE powered max's in NZ, so am unsure of how good the auto tranny is. It's a RE4F04V - does anyone have any major complaints with this tranny? (other than it being an auto...)

ChrisCheezer

........... jdm, vg lsd tranny
-are u thinking what im thinking..


... im going to google for the next 5 hours brb

ChrisCheezer

im going to the junk yard tomorrow and pull some parts... what should get

-spindles
-axels
-2 mounts, the rear mount and the drivers side,(do i need another?)
*thinking about getting the entire shiffting assembly,

ill only take these parts if he gives me a good price. ill worry about the tranny later.

ChrisCheezer

What is the Difference between a Auto Radiator and a 5 speed one?

89badmaxse

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an auto radiator has a tranny fluid cooler in it and a 5 speed radiator doesnt. you can use an auto radiator with 5 speed though just take the tranny lines off and drain the tranny cooler then put caps over it. my old 88 5 speed max had an auto radiator in it and drove fine i never changed it so id imagiane if it didnt go bad the guy who bought it sitll has it in there.......

ChrisCheezer

oh nice.. ok thanx,