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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 11:32 AM
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VG30DE in 1989 maxima

I just got a 1989 maxima a month ago, and the VG30e was running 14's.Four days later, the crankshaft broke. I get a new engine, but the dumbass mechanic put on the timing belt wrong. Two days ago another crankshaft broke. The crankshafts are crap from 89 to 91 VG30e's, so I was wondering what engine and tranny would drop right in. Maybe a 92 engine or something? What is a VE engine? I want something fast as hell, but reliable. Thanks guys.
Old Jun 1, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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14s in what? 0-60?
Old Jun 1, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by nismosleeper
I just got a 1989 maxima a month ago, and the VG30e was running 14's.Four days later, the crankshaft broke. I get a new engine, but the dumbass mechanic put on the timing belt wrong. Two days ago another crankshaft broke. The crankshafts are crap from 89 to 91 VG30e's, so I was wondering what engine and tranny would drop right in. Maybe a 92 engine or something? What is a VE engine? I want something fast as hell, but reliable. Thanks guys.


Fast as hell, but reliable? Buy a 2002 maxima. Only swaps that I know can be done are a VG30ET from an 80's 300Z or a VE (came in the 92-94 SE maximas). VG30ET swap has been done by a few people, obviously VE swap is possible but lots of electrical swapping needed. The easiest thing to do would be to part your GXE out, buy a 92-94 Maxima SE 5-speed and add a 50HP wet shot of nitrous.
Old Jun 1, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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ban, no questions asked.

ugh, i guess the stickies dont do any good

I also think you need a new mechanic.
Old Jun 1, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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hahaha i think hes exagerating the time about 2 seconds
Old Jun 1, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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VG30DETT and VG30DE are the same size, except the turbos, and neither fit.
I haven't heard of anyone swapping a different motor into the maxima other than the kind it came with. Let us know when you do.
Old Jun 1, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nismosleeper
I just got a 1989 maxima a month ago, and the VG30e was running 14's.
You COULD run high to mid 14s with some decent engine work and the car COMPLETELY stripped, but I doubt you did.

Originally Posted by nismosleeper
I get a new engine, but the dumbass mechanic put on the timing belt wrong. Two days ago another crankshaft broke.
How could timing POSSIBLY break a crankshaft?? This makes no sense

Originally Posted by nismosleeper
The crankshafts are crap from 89 to 91 VG30e's.
WRONG. They are forged, and EXTREMELY strong. I mic'ed mine after 220K miles and there was virtualy no wear. They have been used in 500HP+++ aplications (VG30ET) NO WAY you broke two. Every other part in that engine would break LONG before the crank.

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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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You COULD run high to mid 14s with some decent engine work and the car COMPLETELY stripped, but I doubt you did.

How could timing POSSIBLY break a crankshaft?? This makes no sense

WRONG. They are forged, and EXTREMELY strong. I mic'ed mine after 220K miles and there was virtualy no wear. They have been used in 500HP+++ aplications (VG30ET) NO WAY you broke two. Every other part in that engine would break LONG before the crank.

I second Mr. Gone's ban partition.
the VG30Es crank has a weak point in the snout and cracks/breaks there.
Not that common but there have been at least 2 other orgers that this has happened to since I've joined.
Old Jun 1, 2004 | 01:48 PM
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the VG30Es crank has a weak point in the snout and cracks/breaks there.
Not that common but there have been at least 2 other orgers that this has happened to since I've joined.
LOL, yeah sorry I guess I jumped the gun there. The snout is easy to break because of the keyway and there has been atleast 4-5 broken snouts on the org. Additionaly despite my lack of crank wear, it was replaced because of snout wear.
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Originally Posted by nismosleeper
I just got a 1989 maxima a month ago, and the VG30e was running 14's.Four days later, the crankshaft broke. I get a new engine, but the dumbass mechanic put on the timing belt wrong. Two days ago another crankshaft broke. The crankshafts are crap from 89 to 91 VG30e's, so I was wondering what engine and tranny would drop right in. Maybe a 92 engine or something? What is a VE engine? I want something fast as hell, but reliable. Thanks guys.
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If your dumbass mechanic put the timing belt in wrong (which, in itself is extremely hard to do. explanation later) your timing would be the one issue. timing != crank breakage.

second of all. you would not be able to drive your car with messed up timing. timing even off by one-two teeth causes CATASTROPHIC engine failure (ie: pistons having sex with valves... AND LIKING IT!).

third. cranks are not crap. /issue

fourth. pics of slip showing 14's. MAJOR engine work would be required for that. Either that, or your car was running without doors, hood, trunk, the entire interior, no dash, no seats, no glass, and no gas. 14's on the 1/8? Oh ya, sure.

fifth. RTFS. you know what engine drops right in (w/ no mods necessary)?

OMG a VG30E


edit: my bad for angst. people who don't read stickies (especially the one that says *READ THE FAQ'S / STICKIES!* should be drawn and quarted, then banned. no respect. none.
Old Jun 1, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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Ouch, nismosleeper you've been flamed!!!

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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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oh, to add something.

Serious. if you want something fast as hell but still reliable, a 3rd Gen Maxima is not your answer (specially not a VG). No comment on the VE's.

Fast as hell and reliable should never be used in the same sentence.

That being said... I do welcome you here. you will find a lot of information. *shakes hand*
Old Jun 1, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by masssmail
WRONG. They are forged, and EXTREMELY strong. I mic'ed mine after 220K miles and there was virtualy no wear. They have been used in 500HP+++ aplications (VG30ET) NO WAY you broke two. Every other part in that engine would break LONG before the crank.
actually, the vg30e(t) cranks are supposed to be cast but can still handle somewhere around 300-350. some Z guys have pushed more than 400 rwhp with a stock crank though.

crank snout is most likely what the problem is. belts were probably over tightened or something like that. i don't see how else the snout could break if the belts and everything was in spec.
Old Jun 1, 2004 | 05:46 PM
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Am I the only one that has a sit down interview before I let any with a wrench touch my car?
Old Jun 2, 2004 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by therealgoon9
Am I the only one that has a sit down interview before I let any with a wrench touch my car?
I don't even let any wrench monkey within 10 yards of my car! I'd rather fix it myself, even if it takes me a week todo
Old Jun 2, 2004 | 05:57 AM
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I let wrenches touch my car all the time, cause they know if they f-up my car they have to do it again for free.
of course the first time was free too.
Old Jun 2, 2004 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mtcookson
actually, the vg30e(t) cranks are supposed to be cast but can still handle somewhere around 300-350.
Nope, its forged. I garantee it.
Old Jun 2, 2004 | 07:20 AM
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hmm......... if the max's crank is forged that would be real nice. guess there is only one way to find out
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