I just picked up a VG that needs rebuilt, and if someone's interested in paying for it, I'll be willing to build this thing up right... TTZ pistons, JWT cams, new valves & springs, good injectors, new bearings throughout, etc etc..

price of course won't exactly be cheap (cams, bearings, new water pump, timing belt, pistons, etc are going to run probably $1500 alone) but for people that don't have the time or resources to do this yourselves, this could be an easy way to get a built engine..

Just thought I'd offer my "services" to anyone that's interested.. I'd only charge a couple hundred bucks for my labor (which is CHEAP for an engine builder), just to make it worth spending my time on it.

 

I'd love a new VG, how many miles, and what do you think the estimated price would be...I might be able to talk my parents into it...and what about estimated HP

 

generous offer Matt...good luck on this one

 

est HP would be a factor based on how much you want to put into it..

i.e. cams, pistons (compression ratio), whether you do ECU afterwards, etc...

The engine itself has 250k on it, but it's going to be completely overhauled- cyls bored out, new pistons, rings, bearings, valves, valve guides, valve springs, heads completetly reworked and ported by a local race shop... basically it's going to be a new engine.

 

Tempting offer... Man, wish I had more dough. Do you do financing?! lol

 

Can you throw out a range of a price when finished, 3k? less? more? A maxima with 0 miles on it has got me drooling.

 

LOL
not on this kinda work...

 

then throw out a price!

 

this is a great opertunity for someone because you know MATT does great work for a good price but guys lets think about this for a second if your going to spend the money to biuld a VG biuld it for boost because if you just up the compresion, port it and put cams in it it will still barly make as much power as a stock VE which would be a waste of money considering the cost of the built motor would cost more than a whole VE 5spd but this is just my opinion so if you want it get it

 

I meant no financing..

price?
let's get a ballpark figure here..

head work- $300-1000, depending on how crazy you want.
JWT cams, $600
basic rebuild kit (gaskets, valve stem seals, etc), $200
rod and main bearings, $120
pistons & rings, $400-700, depending on how crazy you want
machine work on the block, $200-1000, depending on how crazy you want (knife-edge crank?)
piston rings and valves will add another $2-400
valve springs, $100 a set
new timing belt & tensioner $100
water pump, thermostat, $100...

So you're at $2300 for parts alone, then the engine itself plus my labor.. probably be in the ballpark of $3000 minimum... and these are just the parts off the top of my head.. there's going to be a lot more in there as well.. misc gaskets & seals that aren't in the engine rebuild kit..

not exactly cheap, but ask how much a built engine will cost from a local performance shop.

 

1 question for ya, can you still see the factory honing marks? (they are bright as day on my 165k motor)

 

hmmmmmmmmm

 

i pm'd you, matt.

 

Shawn, yes you can still see 'em.

 

I'm doing this too, lol.... granted, it's going to be over time, but hey! it's still getting done! My gradfather runs a machine shop up near canada so all the machining is free.

i think the real question is tho... VG34E (the Infinity Hybrid) or a high-comp (12+:1) VG30? it's a tough life...

 

12:1 hope you got a good tuner and some race gas

 

And $500-$600 on a new custom JWT ECU reprogram and new injectors and a bigger TB and.............

 

Matt, just rebuild it stock and sell it like that.

 

Hi,

i can find a stock vg30e for 1,000-3,000 dollars,

i think the vg30e can't be change anymore,

i think the vg30e should be as is,

if we want to change a engine or make it better,

why don't we use a vg30et or vg30ett or vg30de,

those would be better engine to upgrade or make it better or up the compression,

 

Maxima_Mike told me once he saw a professional engine building place selling a race built VG30E for around $30,000. It was a link posted on the .org. He remembered that it was pushing something like 250 HP at the crank. NA of course.

 

there is a place in Alabama called Paeco Motorsports that has a stroker kit for our motors. They promise they can get 397hp out of our motors and have dyno sheets to prove it. This is N/A. They are quite pricey ($14,000) but I'm still saving. I am having them do my head work that will cost me $800 a piece plus I will have to get so much more. I am looking at about $4500 for my temporary motor. Hopefully I can get it all finished and in before the next Maxima Meet.

 

WOW almost 400 hp, thats not streetable though! but my god 400 out of a VG?

 

stroker kit for 14 grand? riiiiiiiiiiiight. that costs more than like 3-4 of our cars worth combined

 

IMO spending all that and putting it in a FWD heavy as maxima is utterly ridiculous... 510 anyone?? if you have all that power at least put it in a decent chasis, geeez.

 

with all due respect, that's not the intention for this engine. I don't care what's out there for $30,000 or what you're doing to your dream engine. I'm looking for someone that wants a built VG for a REAL price, using REAL, existing parts. none of these mythical 497hp strokers that nobody has actually seen..

 

all in all, it's not unatainable... I know whats necessary to make a high-comp motor. yes, it won't be cheap, practical, or efficient... but I want this car to be a car 10-20 years from now be in my garage, all purdied up with a kick-*** VG in it.

I'll take it to car shows and begin my schpiel with: "Well it all started back in 2004..."

Guys did this with Nova's and Chevelles and Challengers back in the day and other people thought they were nuts... I'm not saying it's going to happen overnight, I'm not saying there's going to be problems... it's my project. If I can pony up the $550 for a JDM VG... consider the virus spread...

 

Okay. Please detail the plan. Because previously you didn't mention any ign/fuel concerns. I know it's possible because there already is a VG na motor with 300hp available.

So detail out the plan step by step and I'll take a look at it. Guys with the 60's muscle cars didn't have to shell out $600-$2000 for electronics run the engine either.

 

somebody please jump on this, matt's work is great, and man what a deal with him charging so little on labor. matt make more $ off of this man, someone out there has to appreciate this!

 

i didn't name those because I still wasn't sure of whether to do the 3.4 or the high-comp...

It's still pretty much up in the air. The blocks are the same price, but I'm figuring the Infinity pistons are going to be $$$... :/

I'll start making (expanding) my shopping list... i'll maybe be done in a week?

 

Infiniti pistons? Nissan owns Infiniti.

If you change the compression any significant amount, it changes the fuel/timing requirements.

 

Could we do a thread split or something? Dont really wanna mess up Matt's thread.

high comp/tuning blah blah blah. Yes, it is an issue, however you dont have to use JWT..... You could use the e-manage.

ugh stupid org giving wierd error messages

 

I realize this, i'm not dumb....

Lemme rephrase: "Those specific pistons are going to be $$$ due to the fact that they are a Nissan/Infiniti OEM item."

Understand?

/and yes, please split this... (my bad Matt for the thread hi-jack)

 

You don't think I understand because I'm the one that corrected you?

Let me know when you are done. I'd look forward to seeing this done.

 

lol... i really didn't mean it like that

I will let you know, however, it might be awhile... Hopefully at least the block within the month!

 

Actualy, OEM pistons are some of the cheapest out there...... doesnt look like you have done much research....

 

i know this thread has come and gone, but i'm here to say the party has just started.

 

my online fsm says the pistons are 64.88 each so multiply that by 6 and you get 389.28. that's not bad, however, you can get BRC custom made pistons for just over 500 dollars. it seems there are quite a few Z31 guys using these. check out the top of this page: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/engloi.../vg30tips.html

 

Yeah, bump up the compression that high....especially on a motor originally with 9.1 cr, your gonna need a reprogrammed ECU....or even a custom stand alone that you can play with the fuel/timing maps. The 300hp VG out there required that work....definately not your run the mill domestic where you turn a screw on a carb.

S

 

i think it was on JWT's site, i saw this thing, an "oil pan extender." you get an extra quart of capacity. never heard of such a thing.

 

Chad, you serious? I never heard of such a thing....probably would be nice having an extra quart of oil....but is it neccessary?

S