MethMax

Any VG's here have the JWT Cams on their car? Did you notice a big difference? Do you have the timing at 0? Just want to compare. I finally got mine running right. I love the sound, It sounds like a V8.

XmaximaX

I don't personally have the cams, but i have been thinking alot about putting them in, how much did you get them for? How much was the hassle of putting them in? Would you recommend putting them in? And most importantly how much of a gain did you notice? This would all be great input into deciding if im going to get them or not.

dkris42

How about a little bit more info please. Where did you get them and how much did you get them for and did they really make that much of a difference in sound?

KLoWnPR109

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I doubt that your car sounds like a V8

goon9

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v8's are and sound like junk. I don't even like the juice.

XmaximaX

I got a 2.5 with pacesetter headers and a test pipe no resonator and a cheap naxos muffler and my car sounds damn close to a v8, perhaps a small displacement v8.

dkris42

i heard from a reliable source "a vetren orgger" those headers were junk. where are you guys getting these cams @?

DA-MAX

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some of you guys are so ignorant its funny

boosted3rdgen

www.cattman.com has them in a stage one and two...i was looking at the stage two cams but i think i want some more feedback before i spend $550 on em

KLoWnPR109

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There is almost nothing that sounds better than a nice exhaust on a V8. Trust me, your 2.5 doesn't sound like a v8. Put it up to a mustang or a camaro or even a chevy truck with exhaust, and you should run away crying

Matt93SE

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Umm, there's not too many places that you can pick up JWT cams... only three that I know of, and I'm NEVER giving $tealin my money again.

Nismo87SE

I believe he is refering to the sound of the engine when the cams lope at idle. Mine sounds the same as a cammed V8 at idle with the cutout open. Once on the gas you know its a 4

xMaxed90x

To add ma 2 cents I am looking into the JWT cams for ma engine rebuild but refering to the Pacesetter Headers as Junk , they are much the opposite. Orginally I installed a Warspeed Header Pipe, a random tech cat, and greddy cat back... I saw the headers and was interested so i bought em n put em on the car. What a difference over the Warspeed pipe, the car is ownage w\ them on ... much more power w\ the headers the only downside is that engiine noise and vibration is not the best... it shakes the the first pipe on the Greddy lik a **** b\c it pushs through so much air ... and you feel the pulse of the air going through the headers in the steering wheel.(same on all cars) that is why in the fall when i swap engine i gotta get 2 new exhaust manifolds to put the warspeed pipe back on... but they are definally worth the money and are not as bad as everyone makes them out 2 be! ~Charlie~ Also it is just plain funny to see peoples faces when you say that you put headers on a 90 Maxima as people look at you like you are on drugs , oh well **** em!

surfermax92

I've got the Nismo cams and like them....they're pretty smooth on idle, and open the top up a bit.

XmaximaX

Did i say " Man my v6 max sounds like a Stroked 5.0, it sounds so much like it that when they are sitting next to each other you can't tell the diffrence." No i said it kind of sounds like a smaller displacement v8 not a mustang or camaro or enev a truck with an exhaust.

KRMaxima21

So would JWT cams be the ones to get if you're looking for low-end to mid range torque? My car runs pretty good at high end but it shouldn't hurt to wanna make the car run excellent through all powerbands. Anybody have a cam suggestion for low and mids?

MethMax

I got them directly from JWT they were like $577.31 Shipped. They are the S2 Cams, the tech said that if you have a 5-speed you should get the S2's cause you can benifit from it more. And S1's if you have an auto.

It was my first time tearing into my engine like that, So it was a bit of a hassel especially when I didnt know tht you should take the heads off to get the cams in, But I cheated the front cam you can do pretty easily but the back one is where I got stuck. So I just cut a hole in the side enough for the cam to come out, I really didnt have any other choice. Since I didnt have 275 to spend on head gaskets, and the front one was already done. If I did I probably would have also done a piston swap over to the vg30de ones.

I also have full exhaust no cat or resonator, so that helps in making sound somewhat like a V8. I did see A good gain in the mid to high range of RPM. I still need to do my spark plaugs and play with my timing a bit too see if I can get some more out of them.

I'm getting a new home computer in like a week so ill try and get some sound bits up and some new pics of my engine bay. Next we'll see what their computer can do. the cams might work even better then.

KLoWnPR109

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What do you think a 4.6 is?

bonzelite

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i think the main complaint about pacesetter is the fitment issue. i hear they don't line up too well. you gotta work them. i never installed mine. i bought the cattman headers later. and those are still in the box.

i think something to ponder is that with the increased lift, like say the nismos which i believe are at .625, you risk rapid guide and valve life failure. we should be talking about beefing up the whole deal and not just the cams.

DA-MAX

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way off...the Nismos are only in the upper .300s, like 390 or so...hardly aggressive, nice, but very tame compared to the others. there sre NO off shelf SOHC VG cams even close to .692, dunno where you got that # from. and you should not have to upgrade the valvetrain unless using something more aggressive than the MSA 270s

bonzelite

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yeah. that number is way off. but it is higher than what you say.
i found this out: http://www.nissanparts.cc/catalog/?section=322
they do have a 'euro turbo' cam that is that same lift as OEM -.392, with longer duration.

for high performance 1 & 2, on the web page, they cite it as ".425 degrees" and ".430 degrees" but they mean lift. durations are 256, 262 degrees respectively.

DA-MAX

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Euro cam = Nismo cam

bonzelite

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.......

mtcookson

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the euro cam came in my engine (supposedly). its not really supposed to be all that great (whopping 10 hp increase on boosted applications).

bonzelite

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go with the other ones, maybe. the "1" at .425 and the "2" at .430. question is this, though: with these higher lifts, would porting the heads come into the picture to render full benefit from them?

how do you know your VG came with the euro? just curious.

DA-MAX

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all the JDM motors came with the Euro/Nismo cams...supposedly why they make 215-220ish hp over the USDM 205

MethMax

well the numbers on the JWT cams are .473/266, If we want to find cams that are cheaper I talked to Web Cams and they said that can make some but they would need some stock ones to go off of. I think new ones would be cheaper from them. But they are pretty busy right now.

bonzelite

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that number is more aggressive in lift and duration than the nismo 1 & 2 cams on that site i listed. i think that is what matt is intending for his project VG.

is that .473 a JWT stage I or II?

bonzelite

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i will answer my own question: it is stage II. very nice.

go here: http://jimwolftechnology.com/custome....asp?PartID=27

KRMaxima21

Would the S1 cams give an auto tranny a problem? I already have a stage 2 VB but I don't know if I would have a problem.

bonzelite

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are you talking about the jwt cams or the nismo?

goon9

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Get some soud clips posted ay?

KRMaxima21

The JWT cams. Would I be able to use the nismo cams with no problems because I can actually get a set from a friend with a wrecked Z. They said the s2 JWT's are rough on a auto tranny thats why I was wondering if s1's or even the nismo cams are alright.

bonzelite

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i'm wondering why this would be the case. would the more aggressive cams force the shifts more brutally?

MethMax

Well what the tech told me was that with a 5-speed, you can actually take full advantage of the S2's, unlike an auto could probably because of the shift points. I didnt get the exact reasons but thats what I figure. It might also be hard on the tranny cause they said it had good mid RPM power. So an auto would be shifting around when the cams are at their best. Or because of this shifting point on a n auto you wouldnt feel a difference between the S1's and S2's.

bonzelite

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talk to aaron about it, maybe. he drags his auto.

Logan91VE

what really sounds mean is an rb2xdet modded up wastegate n all...

deep and smooth. vroooooooooaaaaarrrrchirvrooooooaaarr

aahhhh rb's get me wet.

bonzelite

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yes. we all secretly want a skyline to a greater or lesser extent.

internetautomar

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Speak for yourself!
I have no interest in making my car into a skyline.
Heck I've got better things to spend my money on.

mtcookson

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Type / Manufacturer - Duration (Int/Exh) - Lift in Inches - Cost in US Dollars

European Z31 Cams - 264/262 Turbo and non - .392" - Unknown
NISMO Z31 Cams - 264/262 Turbo and non - .392" - About $400
Motorsport Auto VG30ET - 262/256 Turbo car only - .420" - $169.95 Exchange only
Motorsport Auto VG30ET - 270/262 Turbo car only - .420" - $169.95 Exchange only
Motorsport Auto VG30E - 260/260 N/A car only - .420" - $169.95 Exchange only
Motorsport Auto VG30E - 270/270 N/A car only - .427" - $169.95 Exchange only
Motorsport Auto VG30E - 280/280 N/A car only - .435" - $169.95 Exchange only
ISKY (Iskendarian Cams) - 262/258 Turbo and non - .450" - About $200 Exchange only
PAECO DSV-5800 Street - 280/280 Ideal Turbo - .328" - $230 Each - $250/Core
PAECO DSV-6200 Strt/Strp - 288/288 Turbo and non - .360" - $230 Each - $250/Core
PAECO DSV-6800 RACE - 302/302 Turbo and non - .373" - $230 Each - $250/Core
Jim Wolf Technology (Turbo) - Specs Proprietary - Specs Proprietary - About $450 (over $500 now)
Web Cams - anything - anything - $100-400 depending