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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 10:15 AM
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94 se suspension vs 93 gxe suspension

Ok I have a 93 gxe and a 94 se parts car. I was wondering what the diffrance in the suspension on the two cars. I know they said the spring were a little stiffer but I have 2 inch drop springs already. So are there any other suspension parts that what be worth swaping off the se to my gxe.

ALSO will the o2 sensor from the 94se work in my gxe as the parts car has a lot less miles on it and the car records were still in it when i got car. The o2 is almost brand new and the rotors have about 1,000 miles on them
Old Sep 16, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by silverlinekenne
Ok I have a 93 gxe and a 94 se parts car. I was wondering what the diffrance in the suspension on the two cars. I know they said the spring were a little stiffer but I have 2 inch drop springs already. So are there any other suspension parts that what be worth swaping off the se to my gxe.

ALSO will the o2 sensor from the 94se work in my gxe as the parts car has a lot less miles on it and the car records were still in it when i got car. The o2 is almost brand new and the rotors have about 1,000 miles on them

You can do a rear disc conversion on the GXE if it has drums (it should unless it has ABS). The O2 sensors are the same for the 2 cars as well.


BTW, why aren't you just fixing up the parts car if it has VE powah and less miles??
Old Sep 16, 2004 | 10:49 AM
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well it has the whole front end cut off of it and it has a non rebuildble title And the guy i got it from kept the motor. And im turboing my vg that why I got the car was for the tranny. Oh yeah I heard the sway bars are thicker Is it anough to tell the diffrance
Old Sep 16, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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yes,the sway bar is thicker..take the rear lights and the spoiler..the dash would be nice 2 cause its white faced
Old Sep 16, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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If you get ST fsb, you'll often scrape the ground. I know because I do on my 1.2" drop.
Old Sep 16, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by anaximander
If you get ST fsb, you'll often scrape the ground. I know because I do on my 1.2" drop.
ummmm I have Eibachs, ST FSB and Stage II LTB and havent scraped
Old Sep 16, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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oh and only the RSB is thicker on the SE, FSB's are the same.
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That means you would probably scrape with the stock bar. AFAIK, both bars are the same diameter. One one is solid and one is hollow. Even if they aren't the same, the ST bar couldn't be more than a few mm more in diameter.

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If you get ST fsb, you'll often scrape the ground. I know because I do on my 1.2" drop.
Old Sep 16, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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The only real physical difference between the ST and stock FSB is that the center is not 'pinched' like the stock one. (along with what Jeff said).



oh and the way it mounts is different but meh
Old Sep 16, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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ummmm I have Eibachs, ST FSB and Stage II LTB and havent scraped
Must have some good roads out there.

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That means you would probably scrape with the stock bar. AFAIK, both bars are the same diameter. One one is solid and one is hollow. Even if they aren't the same, the ST bar couldn't be more than a few mm more in diameter.
I thought I scraped rather because of the ST's shape. I haven't compared the two but it appeared to me that the ST bar has more accentuated "U" locations, which cause ground contact in uneven curves and surfaces.
Old Sep 16, 2004 | 02:41 PM
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Look and see where you've scraped on the ST bar. most likely it's in the middle, but you only lost a few mm of ground clearance there. you probably would have scraped the stock bar there as well.. the ST and factory bars are the same diameter, and the bends on the end are nearly identical. the only real difference between them (dimension wise) is the center on the factory bar is flattened to about 60% of it's original diameter. the ST bar is still round there.
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picture of the bars and some other metal cage thing a ma bob




Roads out here, good for the most part I bought the bar used, it looks scraped up, but its just chips in the paint. the mounting brackets do have some scrape marks though
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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you guys also forgot the higher spring rate for the coil springs. But I don't recommend swapping them
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
you guys also forgot the higher spring rate for the coil springs. But I don't recommend swapping them
you forgot to read his first paragraph
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 06:57 AM
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nah, I read it (just now) but people for future reference will need that info
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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the SE rear suspension also has somewhat of a downforce advantage under braking (if that makes much sense)
anyways,
there's and assembly on the rear beam that has brake lines running into it. its spring loaded and connected to rear links somehow. i can only assume that when you apply the brakes, the pressure in these brake line stiffens up the rear end a tad to keep the car from dipping so much in the front.
it's likely not worth swapping to a GXE but it's a cool concept.
anyone know anything more aout this? i haven't had too much time to inspect this feature.
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by -shock211-
the SE rear suspension also has somewhat of a downforce advantage under braking (if that makes much sense)
anyways,
there's and assembly on the rear beam that has brake lines running into it. its spring loaded and connected to rear links somehow. i can only assume that when you apply the brakes, the pressure in these brake line stiffens up the rear end a tad to keep the car from dipping so much in the front.
it's likely not worth swapping to a GXE but it's a cool concept.
anyone know anything more aout this? i haven't had too much time to inspect this feature.
Actually, that's the rear load sensors for the ABS system. Any ABS car should have them.
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bman,
i have abs and they aren't on my car.
Old Sep 20, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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They should have. On any 92-94SE at least.
Old Sep 20, 2004 | 03:22 PM
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it was on 89-91 se maximas with abs as well.
Old Sep 20, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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it's an SE w/ ABS thing then. it's not on SEs without ABS. simply a load sensing device to add/remove brake bias from the rear so that you don't lock up the back end when it's unloaded and driving on slick streets.
Old Sep 20, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
it's an SE w/ ABS thing then. it's not on SEs without ABS. simply a load sensing device to add/remove brake bias from the rear so that you don't lock up the back end when it's unloaded and driving on slick streets.

In my 94 FSM there are 3 diagrams for the rear brake system -- non-ABS, ABS w/o load sensing valves and ABS w/ load sensing valves. I do have the load sensing valves.
Old Sep 20, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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the ABS w/o load sensing is on the GXE cars w/ abs.
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