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Old 10-10-2004, 07:05 PM
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Turn Signal 1156>1157 Conversion

I've always wanted that Maxima brochure/UK look with my front turn signals (the ones in the bumper). I was wondering if it was possible to fabricate a way to put an 1157 bulb in there, relay power from the parking lights to the lower filament (?) and hook the stock turn signal up to the other filament...that way it would get brighter with the turn signal, anyone have any experience with this?
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check out craig's site on this.
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rey - I think dmad is talking about making the signals in the bumper come on with the parking lights and then also blink when the signal is on

dmad - you would have to modify the blinker to accept an 1157 socket (which you can buy at any parts store) but I think it'd be pretty easy to do with a dremel. Look in the 4th gen FAQs, I know some of them have done something similar.
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ah, gotcha.
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I'll look into this tomorrow and if i decide to do it ill take pics and do a write-up

edit: i was looking in the 4th gen FAQs, found the write-up, but something confused me...here's a quote:
"9 and 10) Now we need to connect the wiring. First determine which wire on the socket is the 27 watt filament wire and which is the 8 watt filament wire. With an 1157 bulb in the socket, touch the ground wire that we soldered to the socket to the ground on the battery. Then briefly touch one of the other two wires from the socket to the positive battery terminal. Do this for each wire. The wire that causes the bulb to light up brightest is the 27 watt wire. The other is the 8 watt wire. "
craig, im hoping you can answer this, isnt an 1157 bulb 27 and 28 watts...in my owner manual it says '1157 27/8' i figured they were just too lazy to put another 2 in there, but then again 1 watt probably wouldnt make such a difference...im just confused
2nd edit: i was reading the write-up some more and it was telling the 4th gen owners to upgrade their fuse, the parking light power I will be relaying, will i need to upgrade any fuses?
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ive thought about doing that with my bumper lights..

in this pic of my blazer i have the parking lights on, but you can barely see it


the low filament doesnt do any justice in the daytime. I want them to come on steady and BRIGHT on my car like the cadillac CTS, vettes, and later camaros have their front orange lights, havent figured out how to do it yet
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why don't you just call a GM dealership (parts department) and ask them?

They could probably tell you what bulb and/or fixture they have for those.
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Originally Posted by DMad8724
I'll look into this tomorrow and if i decide to do it ill take pics and do a write-up

edit: i was looking in the 4th gen FAQs, found the write-up, but something confused me...here's a quote:
"9 and 10) Now we need to connect the wiring. First determine which wire on the socket is the 27 watt filament wire and which is the 8 watt filament wire. With an 1157 bulb in the socket, touch the ground wire that we soldered to the socket to the ground on the battery. Then briefly touch one of the other two wires from the socket to the positive battery terminal. Do this for each wire. The wire that causes the bulb to light up brightest is the 27 watt wire. The other is the 8 watt wire. "
craig, im hoping you can answer this, isnt an 1157 bulb 27 and 28 watts...in my owner manual it says '1157 27/8' i figured they were just too lazy to put another 2 in there, but then again 1 watt probably wouldnt make such a difference...im just confused
2nd edit: i was reading the write-up some more and it was telling the 4th gen owners to upgrade their fuse, the parking light power I will be relaying, will i need to upgrade any fuses?
There wouldnt' be much difference between 27 and 28 watt bulb. The bright one is 27W, the dim one is only 8W. If you use a relay (correctly) then I dont think you'd need to upgrade the fuse which is never recommended anyway.
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I took off my signal light and brought it inside and looked at it, wouldn't be too hard with a dremel, but I'm being lazy and don't really wanna do it, the wiring is sealed and dont feel like fabbing all this stuff up just for that look...

But I've had a sudden interest in LEDs, and I think I'm going to try to create an LED board (amber, around 15-25?) for the signal light and hook that up to the stock wiring with Brad92SE's help (and maybe Craig's, he just doesn't know it yet ) and hopefully I'll be back with pics and stuff...

Anyone have any experiene with custom LED boards in any lights? I think I'm just gonna grab some cardboard and stick some LEDs into it...

AWSM66: Mike, if you're reading this, ever tint anyone's front bumper signals? I think it might look good to match the corners, how much would that be?
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Originally Posted by DMad8724
I took off my signal light and brought it inside and looked at it, wouldn't be too hard with a dremel, but I'm being lazy and don't really wanna do it, the wiring is sealed and dont feel like fabbing all this stuff up just for that look...

But I've had a sudden interest in LEDs, and I think I'm going to try to create an LED board (amber, around 15-25?) for the signal light and hook that up to the stock wiring with Brad92SE's help (and maybe Craig's, he just doesn't know it yet ) and hopefully I'll be back with pics and stuff...

Anyone have any experiene with custom LED boards in any lights? I think I'm just gonna grab some cardboard and stick some LEDs into it...

AWSM66: Mike, if you're reading this, ever tint anyone's front bumper signals? I think it might look good to match the corners, how much would that be?
<grin> you'll need to modify your flasher relay.
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Old 10-12-2004, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Walka
<grin> you'll need to modify your flasher relay.
Are you sure? I think I'm going to have 3 rows of 8, and have them wired in series (so I won't need resistors) in sets of 4...I thought having to change the flashing was because of resistors?
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Originally Posted by DMad8724
Are you sure? I think I'm going to have 3 rows of 8, and have them wired in series (so I won't need resistors) in sets of 4...I thought having to change the flashing was because of resistors?

that very well may be true. i didnt even think of that.

there was a guy on here who did an led light, similar to what you are doing. i have no idea how he went about it.

i replaced my 1156 with a led bulb and it screwed with my flash rate due to the low power draw.
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no worries...i never previously said i wasn't using resistors...
I hope it's not going to mess up my flash rate, running the LEDs in series keeps a low power draw as well, but not sure if its enough, or not enough...describe your problems with your flash rate...if it does mess up on mine, www.superbrightLEDs.com sells ohm limiters (?) that make the circuit seem like its under a normal, light bulb condition
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try using an electronic flasher instead
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If you're just hooking up another set of park lights (8w) to the bumper indicator, you won't need a relay or upgrade the sidelight fuse as another 8w is a minimal current draw (0.6 amps). I added 5w clearance lights front & rear to my max (not fitted to max's outside US), changed the standard 5w park lights to 18w bulbs & didn't need to change fuse or add relay.

Replacing the indicator bulb with LED's has to be done with caution: LED's have a narrow light pattern, so you'll have to figure out a way to make them visible at angles greater than 45 degrees. Good luck, though.
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