Problem with Fidanza
11-05-2004, 02:38 PM
#1
Problem with Fidanza
Took my car to buy a new starter, long story short, flywheel is f#@$ed up. The ring with the gears that the starter engages, has MOVED to the left!! WTF. thats why my starter wasnt engaging the flywheel. Its not even touching. 
11-05-2004, 03:44 PM
#4
Originally Posted by swowlinc
Took my car to buy a new starter, long story short, flywheel is f#@$ed up. The ring with the gears that the starter engages, has MOVED to the left!! WTF. thats why my starter wasnt engaging the flywheel. Its not even touching.
11-05-2004, 07:57 PM
#7
Yep, the ring gear is out of position. I dont have any pics though. All the gear teeth are good its just the ring is too far over to make a connection. I was told it might be fixable. He'll see tomorrow. I might have to put in a factory flywheel. Its only been on about 6 months.
11-08-2004, 06:22 AM
#9
There should be, but they're probably goign to blame it on the place who sold it to you. you can buy them without ring gears on them.. at least the distributors can, then they put the appropriate ring gear on them once they have them.. at least the last 15 I bought were like that. they may blame the thing slipping on them since it's just bolted into place..
anyway, pull the flywheel off and see if the bolts are missing or broken, take some pics, and call up Fidanza.
anyway, pull the flywheel off and see if the bolts are missing or broken, take some pics, and call up Fidanza.
11-08-2004, 07:23 AM
#10
Originally Posted by Matt93SE
There should be, but they're probably goign to blame it on the place who sold it to you. you can buy them without ring gears on them.. at least the distributors can, then they put the appropriate ring gear on them once they have them.. at least the last 15 I bought were like that. they may blame the thing slipping on them since it's just bolted into place..
anyway, pull the flywheel off and see if the bolts are missing or broken, take some pics, and call up Fidanza.
anyway, pull the flywheel off and see if the bolts are missing or broken, take some pics, and call up Fidanza.
11-08-2004, 07:28 AM
#11
that's why I do this stuff myself. doesn't cost me anything but a few hours to pull the tranny.
FYI, you're getting bent over HARD if you're paying that shop $350 to pull and replace a tranny. that's 4 hours work, MAX. I can do it in two, and I know your shop doesn't charge $175 an hour.
FYI, you're getting bent over HARD if you're paying that shop $350 to pull and replace a tranny. that's 4 hours work, MAX. I can do it in two, and I know your shop doesn't charge $175 an hour.
11-08-2004, 07:32 AM
#12
Originally Posted by Matt93SE
that's why I do this stuff myself. doesn't cost me anything but a few hours to pull the tranny.
FYI, you're getting bent over HARD if you're paying that shop $350 to pull and replace a tranny. that's 4 hours work, MAX. I can do it in two, and I know your shop doesn't charge $175 an hour.
FYI, you're getting bent over HARD if you're paying that shop $350 to pull and replace a tranny. that's 4 hours work, MAX. I can do it in two, and I know your shop doesn't charge $175 an hour.
11-08-2004, 10:02 AM
#14
Originally Posted by Matt93SE
Well, I HAVE flown to LA to work on a car, and driven to about 5 different states........ 
stay out of mine 
hehehehehe
you can still take pictures, just pull the starter
11-08-2004, 10:05 AM
#15
Some notes:
1) If it's bad, you will have to remove it to: a) fix it b) repair it
2) If you want to claim a warranty, Fidanza will most likely have to see it physically to authorize a warranty replacement. They probably wont' send a new one w/o having the actual unit anyway.
1) If it's bad, you will have to remove it to: a) fix it b) repair it
2) If you want to claim a warranty, Fidanza will most likely have to see it physically to authorize a warranty replacement. They probably wont' send a new one w/o having the actual unit anyway.
Originally Posted by swowlinc
I would but I will get charged $350 labor for that. I'll take pics as it gets fixed but also I dont want my car just sitting in a shop while I look for a flywheel. Im going to call Fidanza back after 1:00 when the tech part is open. I'll probably put back on a factory flywheel.
11-09-2004, 07:03 AM
#16
Well, we took off the starter, looked at everything(lookin good), tested the starter on a 12v charger(works perfectly),put everything back and the car starts. I start the car about fitty-leven more times. Started everytime! Let it sit for an hour, started it back up again. This morning no start.Battery is good. I can hear the starter spinning and even moving in/out. What should I check next??
11-09-2004, 07:17 AM
#17
Maybe you have a weak solenoid that occasionally doesn't go in far enough for the starter to engage the ring gear.
Or maybe you have a bad tooth on the ring gear and just by luck your flywheel stopped at just the right position for the starter not to engage. If you have an automatic, turn the crank with a ratchet and socket on the crank pulley nut (if you have a 5-speed you know what to do) and try to start again.
Or maybe you have a bad tooth on the ring gear and just by luck your flywheel stopped at just the right position for the starter not to engage. If you have an automatic, turn the crank with a ratchet and socket on the crank pulley nut (if you have a 5-speed you know what to do) and try to start again.
11-09-2004, 07:49 AM
#19
How did you come to this firm conclusion when it was the starter? Was this a guess by the mechanic?
Originally Posted by swowlinc
Yep, the ring gear is out of position. I dont have any pics though. All the gear teeth are good its just the ring is too far over to make a connection. I was told it might be fixable. He'll see tomorrow. I might have to put in a factory flywheel. Its only been on about 6 months.
11-11-2004, 03:43 AM
#21
Thanks for the replies! Well, lets start with the solenoid. Cant be cause I replaced the starter twice (1 used & 1 brand new). Next, my mechanic informed me that the flywheel must have moved over because he said everything looked fine. My other favorite mechanic took off the starter and said everything looks fine. We turned the crank for 10 minutes and no broken teeth. Of course after I pop the clutch and start the car, it starts/runs fine all day long. If I leave it overnight, it will not start in the morning. I have replaced almost everything as far as tuneup is concerned. Im stuck driving an 93 Acura Legend right now.Its nice but it can touch the max. A.M. voltage is around 12.9.
11-11-2004, 11:14 AM
#26
The Bendix drive, Bendix spring, Bendix gear are all the same thing, referring to the gear on the starter motor. Invented by the Bendix Corp. way back as a way to dis-engage the starter gear from the flywheel when you remove power from the starter motor (let up on the key).
btw - I don't understand how the flywheel or the gear on it could move and the flywheel be in balance.
btw - I don't understand how the flywheel or the gear on it could move and the flywheel be in balance.
11-12-2004, 08:30 AM
#31
I would think that if the ring gear was "pushed over" that it would be way out of balance and there would be a major vibration when ever it would be running. You said it runs fine after you get it started so think it is probably the starter bendix. I'm just saying it can't be the flywheel at all.
11-13-2004, 09:59 PM
#32
Just put on the new starter and same story. Although I bought a "brand new" starter from auto zone, the manufacturer sticker says " remanufactured in the US". Anyway same problem with the new joint. Ater the engine cools off, it wont start either. Just constant spinning of the starter. It has a lifetime warranty on it but I think I can safely say the starter is not the problem. Also this started as the season changed, when it got cold outside. It runs/starts fine all day long until after 3 hours or so. HELP!! 
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