My rotors have 'hot spots' on them, so last time it was pretty iffy getting them ground down. But they have fairly big grooves in them, the brake pads wore down in almost a year (the first set lasted almost 2x that long), so I need new rotors as well as brake pads.
But, what should I get? Is there anythign that would be worth a slight amount extra to put on that would help quite a bit with braking? Right now my braking distance is awful, as it has been for awhile (91 GXE - no ABS, front rotors only)

Any suggestions?? In about a month, I'm going to try and replace the back brakes with the back brakes from a 4-wheel disc maxima.

 

This sound like a job for super matt!!

 

I sell the brake pads and rotors.

 

I say get Brembo blanks and high-quality semi-metallic pads (Raybestos, Axxis MMs, etc). SS brakeline will also improve pedal feel. Cross-drilled are just for looks, and slotted aren't really worth it for the street.

 

Whats a good price for the brembos? I thought that the slots and drilled really incredibly helped with stopping the car? Would it be justified to spend the extra money?

 

nope...spend it more on quality regular rotors and brake pads.

 

Which brands are quality? I know brembo - but additionally - would they last longer and do a better job stopping the car (I don't know much about brakes - yet )

 

Your car is 13 years old. You might not want to spend all this money on making your brakes all gnarly. Do you do autocross? NAPA sells rotors for 29.99 each as apposed to Brembo at tirerack.com for 50.00 each. I never had a problem with Napa tru stop rotors. I just don't like there pads. I suggest getting the pads from tirerack.com. The satisfied pro perform OEMs for $26.00. I put these on my '89 Saab 9000S and they were great. No brake fade, dust, or squeal. Very good value. We are about the same age (your half a year younger) and I know that putting a lot of money into my car (which is one year newer and has the same type of bumper paint fade) is just a waste. Save it for a real car. Don't get me wrong, I love my car but its too old and too many miles to restoring to OEM spec or more. The Napa and tirerack combo would still be close to OEM.

Just remember Organic = cheap with brake fade, semi-metallic = best value and great braking, metallic = bad cold braking but great for racing (they need to be warmed up for good braking), ceramic = great brakes but really expensive.

http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brake...rform+OEM+Pads

http://www.napaonline.com/cgi-bin/nc...grpid=88381022

 

boy are you the fool.
you are comparing crappa rotors that you're paying almost as much as I sell brembos for to Brembo.
Organic = just about no longer available, because they suck.
Semi-mettallic = 95% of the pads sold today
Full Metallic = find a set! very unusual to find (actually they don't exist)
Ceramic = Readily available for roughly the same price as a good set of Semi-mets.
heck I can even get ceramics as cheap as semi-mets.

Brakes are one place that no matter how old the car you want it to be the best possible, your life relies on it. As do the lives of others

 

No, I'm not a fool. I may not be "ASE Parts Specialist" but I have completed the ASE certified training course. I just didn't want to become a mechanic. The most determining factor on how well brakes stop is in the pads. The rotor is just a friction surface for those pads. I also had first hand experience with these "crappa rotors." They are not bad. Didn't warp nor did they give me brake fade. Plus your website doesn't look like it won e-business of the year award either. I'd be scared to buy something from your website. Hell, I bet there isn't even any benchmark testing done to compare rotors. Its all who can market theirs the best. If doomtoo wanted his car to be perfect, I'm sure would buy direct from the dealer. Its just not a good value. Key word is "Value." He is 21 years old and I'm not too sure but probably doesn't have money to burn.

 

i'm 22 years old too, and i'm poor too, but i think i'll stick with brembo. i've had too many "no name" or medicore brand stuff screw me up resulting in lots more dollars for repairs and replacement, so i'm sticking with a good brand like brembo..

 

which ASE course?
anyone can take a course and complete it, but it does not mean that they have the knowledge to be able to pass a test, or the ability to apply said knowledge.
There has been testing done to compare rotors, and if you were in the business you'd have seen the articles in the trade rags.
I didn't design my site to win awards, I designed it to be fast simple and secure.
NO ONE has EVER gotten screwed by my site.
I'm also Certified as a Service Writer. and a CNA.
Let me know once you've been in the business for 15 years and then maybe I'll give some consideration to your opinion.

 

You know what internetautomar? Your right. Brakes are one place that no matter how old the car you want it to be the best possible, your life relies on it. As do the lives of others. He should spend his money on these: http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brake...+Big+Brake+Kit Plus he gets to pick from black, red, or silver. Plus the rims and tires to fit. Oh yeah your in the business to sell. Not to design.

 

you're a real idiot. dont ever challange a well known and well respected member of this site without good reason..this is not good reason. you should lurk for a while longer and see how things work before you start jumping on people.

 

Thanks everyone for the responses - I do not have alot fo money to spend, thats why I asked the value vs. performance. Like - if getting brembos would be very noticable, and would drastically improve my braking - then I would go with them, since they'd be worth the extra 40$ (for both). But it seems to be more of a .. "name-assurance"? I know brembo is a good brand, but if both will give me simmilar performance, I'd go with the cheaper ones (unless it was within a 10% or so difference).

But all in all - ceramic are the best brakes? I'm not totally sure what I have now - I think it's semi-metallic, but with the rotors, it creates an incredible amount of dust - the wheels are recoated once a week, even on lightest braking. And also - my car does not have reliable stopping. It takes probably close to 10car distances to stop from 60-70mph.. vs. similar cars (a honda with 4 wheel - a old volvo with drums), which are about 6. So my car really isn't all that safe for someone to drive who drives a car with "normal" brakes...

Thanks again - I appreciate the help from everyone!

 

I concur with madmax. jeewiz13, I don't care how old you are, how much money you don't have, and which ASE course you did. And no one else does either. Here is a forum rule: HEED the advice of seasoned, respected members. Brian (internetautomar) has done more for this forum that you can begin to imagine. If you have a disagreement, instead of calling people names, just find another forum somewhere else to vent your opinions. Respect is something one needs to earn here; and you sure aren't on the fast track to that.

Respect others, or leave.

 

ok here's my recommendation...
no you don't HAVE to get brembo rotors. brembo is just a name that gets tossed around when someone asks for quality rotor.
you can use any brand name rotor that's MADE IN THE USA...rotors made in Italy (brembos) are also good.

i've seen/installed bendix rotors that are made in the USA and had good results. also good results with bendix ceramic pads. use a quality fluid (castrol LMA is my pick) and you should have some decent stopping power. don't cheap on brakes...that extra 5 ft of stopping power may save someone's life.

jeewiz...you noticed the made in china rotors are dirt cheap...probably $30 bucks for retail pricing. how much do you think it costs to get that rotor here to the US from china? i would say $10 bucks of that rotor cost goes to shipping. i'm sure the parts store and distributors get a cut. that means that value of the rotor is probably $10-$15 bucks. they might work for rural/suburb driving w/ light brake duty...but if you're demanding on the brakes i don't recommend getting those made in china rotors. they are generally called "throw away rotors" ...once your pads are worn the rotors gets tossed.

if you can't afford to maintain your car properly then maybe you should take public transportation or get a cheaper car to maintain.

 

you get wat you pay for..sometimes you just get lucky and get a break

 

wow look at your post count, very low..and you joined just about a year ago..
other newbs need to learn from you, dont post BS and stupidity.

note: maybe that comes off as sarcastic, its not.

 

how often do you hear hot rodders say their cars are too old to restore? the 3rd generations are classics. my '91 i just bought is getting brand new paint, rims, new leather, new carpet, new headliner ect.. when the engine breaks (has 88k), i am going to rebuild it and start over again. i'll just want to avoid accidents. if you'ed rather have an expensive brand new car go ahead but myself, i'd rather invest in a car that is timeless. btw, crystal lake, wonder lake, round lake...you're all fake

 

if you want brembo rotors and don't really want to spend a whole lot of money order from nopi.com, that's where i got mine for a reasonable price...(i suggest ordering over the phone... it'll go through faster)

heres the link
http://www.nopionline.com/nopistore/...0Maxima%201993

 

screw nopi, support brian(internetautomar)!

 

just so that it's butt simple to find on my site here's the link : http://www.internetautomart.com/maxi...en/brakes.html
my prices are VERY competitive and you'll help support me and thus allow me to keep giving my advice for free and help me keep my cool when dealing with dingbats.



oh and for the record a friend of mine lives in wonder lake

 

I think I'm going to have to hit up internetautomart for some rotors and wires!

I think I'll have to get pads elsewhere though :|

 

why not the pads?

 

found em cheaper elsewhere

 

really? what's their name?

 

I got F/R brembo blanks and F/R pbr/axxis metal masters for ~$218.00 shipped.

Is that a good price?

 

Why do you need such good rear pads? Dont they do around 15% of the braking work? Wouldnt you be better off with cheaper pads from napa, just oem quality ones? If im wrong by all means correct me, but thats just an observation of mine

 

PM me where and how much, I may be able to do something.
depends mostly on which brand it is.

 

consider y0self pm'DD!!1one

 

and consider the problem fixed.
NEXT!!!

 

Danm...the man works quick, can't complain about that!!!

 

He does, but I think he forgot to update the prices on the rear pads *cough*

 

ok, are they better now?