Well, I`m ready to set a match to this Japanese piece of crap!
No one knows whats wrong,none of you or the Friggin Dealer.They were no help at all, I felt that I was in his way and wasting his time,he was a little pimpled faced *** of a tech anyway.
The problem.........
After doing a head gasket replacement, I have a Massive engine flooding problem.I mean really bad, so bad that unburnt fuel is coming out of the tailpipe. I checked the fuel pressure regulator and it is functioning correctly.
What else would cause such a massive engine flood??
Help Please!!

`92 VE

 

so basically your car is dumping a ****load of fuel, not burning most of it, and pumping the rest out the exhaust?? I don't think a head gasket would fix that. It sounds like maybe you have a couple of bad injectors. common problem with these cars.

 

agreed if the regulator is functioning properly the injectors and leaking way too much fuel into the cylinders. like he said injectors are a common problem.

 

your car runs correctly and all that? Have you tried your charcole canister? I'm not sure about that...

 

pull the plugs, and see if all cylinders are running rich or just some.
as someone pointed out earlier, it may just be an injector that has some crap clogging the pintle / solenoid

 

I replaced the head gasket because coolant was getting ito the #2 cylinder.
ALL six cylinders are flooding bad.
I pulled the crank angle sensor and rotated it with the key on to check that the injectors were ticking and they were.
The engine did not have this problem before.

 

The shop that did the headgasket would be responsible.

 

I`m the one that replaced the head gasket....it is a stright forward job, just time consuming.

 

Did you pull the injectors out of the feul rail? If you did it is a common problem to break or pinch the O rings when putting them back in and this will cause the cylinder to fill with fuel instead of just firing through the injector like they are supposed to. A couple of people have had this problem before.

 

I pulled the fuel rail with the injectors still attached to the rail......I didnt remove each injector one at a time. The injector insulators seem to be in good shape, they were not brittle or cracked and I used a little oil on thim so the injectors would seat easly.

 

i got a ve fuel rail w/regulator and all 6 working injectors, I like it as a spare in case mine some day go bad. But if its the problem and you need them...maybe you could haggle me out of them.

 

Thanks Blacks, I will keep that in mind....thank you

 

Would a malfunctioning EGR valve cause this? IF I have the wrong vaccuum hose connected to it drawing vaccuum at idle, would that cause the engine to flood?
That was the only mistake I found...Battery is to low to try to start now, will try again tomarrow.

 

No, it wouldn't cause that. At worst it would cause the engine to stumble and die at idle because too much exhuast was entering the combustion chamber.

 

it's gotta be leaky injectors.

 

I agree. all plugs fouled. Gas must be leaking past the O-rings and into the heads. Fortunately, it's fairly easy to take the rail off and put all new o-rings in there. Just take care not to damage the injector connectors while removing them from the rail.

 

Sara, in your previous thread I suggested injector seals. Now, other people are suggesting those same seals. Humor us. They are fairly cheap, fairly easy to replace, and parts on your fuel system that will age. Do this first. Chance of old orings not seating properly once removed is more likely than all 6 injectors going bad simultaneously. Biggest problems are sometimes caused by the smallest things. Replace them for peace of mind if nothing else. Good luck.

 

Yeah, and since the o-ring is cheaper than dirt, and very easy to replace, it's logically the first thing you should try.

 

Have you taken the injectors out of a VE fuel rail before? The instructions are easy but the actual operation is sort of a pain. It's hard not to mangle the injector connectors. Tedious would be a good word for it.

 

I replaced 4 of the injectors in my Max, and you're right, half of them are a pain, but on the left bank, they are pretty easy to get out. Tedious does describe it well, though.

 

I`m the one that did the head gasket job and after putting everything back together I had a massive engine flooding problem. Well it was the *&^&**(&,^%$%#@$#,*&^%$%^*&^&^%#$!(*&^&$%......... .*&^&$#@#@!@#. is that enough cuss words, hold on, $#@#@<%$##@#<%%$#$!!@#...vaccuum line to the EGR valve connected wrong. Thanks to all that tried to help me.....

 

damn vacum lines..day el gitya ebey time!!

 

check vacum line going to egr...

 

I think is whats causing my hard starts....also MPG in real lousy....let me quess O2 sensor? Let me know what you guys think....

 

Congratulations!!! Sorry my advice was to no avail. I guess the important part is that it is fixed. WTG!

 

I think the O2 sensor would be a great diagnosis. After all that unburned fuel passed through, it probably went south. Check the voltage signal on it. If it's continously low and not cycling, replace. That would be lean. High... rich. Actually, if it's not cycling back and forth at low voltage.... replace. Check with Internetautomar. There. Now he doesn't have to post.

 

Accutally, I think it was you that said to recheck the $#$#@#...%$#$%@!.. vaccuum lines....
Thank you

 

Also, my thanks go out to Brian for being very helpful......

 

Bingo!!!!!!!!!
$#$#@#,&%^&*%, *$$#@!@ vaccuum lines

 

my suggestion is to remove the cat and o2 , then try to start the car.
once you've cleaned the plugs

 

which one

 

You, my freind.......

 

Can you check the O2 with a multimeter?

 

What about just trying to de-carbonize the engine with the old SeaFoam/ATF/water and a hard drive trick?

 

I don't see how that would cause the engine to flood. I can remove that line and the engine would run/start fine. But congrats anyway.

Keep all your progress in one thread.

 

this has nothing to do with anything, but is sara a girl?

 

maybe the stalling and the engine choking on its on exhaust from too much in the chamber due to the incorrect hook up is considered "flooding" to sara

thats the downside about online...no one can see or hear the problem you describe as well as you can in person

 

Just so you guys know, the EGR valve was hooked up to a continuous source a vaccuum by mistake. The EGR does not need vaccuum at idle. The EGR Valve Vaccuum connects to the EGR Valve Vaccuum switch underneath the throtle body. When the RPM`s reach 2700 the switch opens and applies vaccuum to the EGR valve.
NO, I`m not a girl, Sara in my 20 year old daughter, its her car. I`m just doing what Dad`s are supposed to do!

 

in theory it can be, but I don't know the specs

 

something's missing here