JestA

ok i have a ve and a vg ... the ve's bottom end is all messed up ticking like crazy i think its a connecting rod .... now what i want to know is .. will the vg bottom end ( block ) fit on the ve ... are they the same bottom end just different top ?? and another question if i do that will the tranny (5 spd ) from the ve fit on the vg bottom end ? are the mounts in the same place ??
or if anyone has a easier and cheaper way i can do this please let me know ...

more questions to come ...

Thanks in advance ...

Joey

Jeff92se

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not without some major mods, lots of it is diff, will fit but you need alot of stuff, easier way to to buy a VE engine or a maxima with a VE and a 5-sp.

Matt93SE

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rebuild the one you've got.

VG= timing belt. open front end with just dust covers.
VE= timing chain. oil bathed front end with sealed covers.

getting that stuff swapped over would be a nightmare...

Just pull the VE apart, replace the bearings, hone the cylinders, throw some new piston rings in it, do a quick once-over on the heads and put it back together. you can be back up and running for under $1000 in machine work and parts.

JestA

how about if i drop the engine and swap the rods and pistons form the vg to the ve ??? will that work ?

Jeff92se

iTrader: (82)

Why would you do that and have lower compression?

JestA

i dont know im just asking ... so you think it would really cost that much for a rebuild .??? if i do it my self ... bearing arnt expensive .

subs1000w

like matt said theres proboly nothing wrong with the internals all it would need it bearings and maybe have the crank turned and or rods resized

Jeff92se

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REgardless if what Matt said, no one really know what's wrong with it until you take it apart and mic everything. Probably a spun bearing. I'd buy a jdm motor but that's me.

JestA

yea that would be the ideal thing to do but .. im kinda low on cash ..
so anythign just to get it back up and running ..

Jeff92se

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Well you can spend $1,000 on parts + shat load of labor or spend $800-$1,000 on a jdm motor. You could probably fix your engine for alot cheaper than $1,000 IF ONE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING. "IF" being a major factor

JestA

well im not a licensed mechanic or anything but i am a aprentice mechanic and i have torn apart a honda engine before and rebuild it and put it back together .. but i had my teacher help me ... i think im just gonna rebuild it ... if i have any questions along the way .. i would be happy if u guys can help me ..

Jeff92se

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Have your teacher help you. Because short of me boarding an international flight to Canada, not much I can do.

Good luck and post pics when you are done.

«§»Craig B«§»

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if you do a rebuild, invest in a FSM (factory service manual), not just Haynes or Chiltons or whatever

JestA

thanks guys .

Matt93SE

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rod bearings, $3.39 each (need 6 or 12, not sure how they're sold.)
Main bearing set, $130
Piston Ring set, $142.75
head gasket set, $262.35
Connecting rods are about $140 each. you might have to replace one due to the spun bearing.
Pistons are $61 each

On an engine this old, you shouldn't even think about tearing it apart unless you plan on replacing the rings..

So there's $575 in parts, just to pull the heads off, replace the rings and crank bearings, and put it back together.

you might end up replaing a connecting rod as well, or having to have the block machined when you get in there from the spun bearing. seen it many times before.


If you've torn down and rebuilt a Honda engine, then you'll have no problems with this one. It's the same procedure, just a slightly different overall layout.

JestA

ok what if i just take the vg and stick it in place of the ve will the mounts be in the same place ??? if yes will the tranny ( 5 spd ) fit on the vg block ?

internetautomar

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different mounts
different computer
different wiring harness

mtnbikeair

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Is rebuilding a motor something you can really do by yourself? Like i know people do it, but could i really trust myself to take my engine apart and trust that it will work later on? If so i just might have to partake.

mtcookson

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as internetautomar said the mounts and such are different but the transmission would bolt up. the bell housings are the same.

Wiking

If one can get a japanese 50k engine for 500$, why bother? Its like new... Old one works as spares. I envy the price here alone in cold neverending night.

internetautomar

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you can do it yourself except for the machine work, that's if any machine work is necessary

DanNY

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you'll need to outsource additional help..that's for sure.

Matt93SE

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If you don't have a problem pulling the engine out without help, or can do a clutch job or suspension swap without someone telling you what and how to do it, then you can probably rebuild an engine.

it takes a LOT more time and skill, but it's nothign you can't do if you pay attention. how intelligent do you think most professional mechanics and engine rebuilders are? they're not rocket scientists, I'll guarantee. (not to say they're idiots either, but I wouldn't put the general grease monkey in the highly inteligent, well educated category).

anyway, it's possible if you read the service manual, pay attention, and be VERY clean when you're putting it back together.
follow the service manual to the letter and it tells you most of this stuff.
a haynes or chiltons may be a good idea as well, as they're geared more towards the shadytree mechanic and drop lots of hints and helpful comments along the way in their rebuild sections.