jdm engine
02-04-2005, 05:37 PM
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jdm engine
I recently got into maximas (280z man by fame).I purchased a mint 92 SE with a broken timing chain. I had a dual overhead sent over from japan, 2200 miles on it, with all the japanese writing on filter and such. this car goes like stink. could someone tell me the horsepower of this engine, as I can smoke my buddies 04 maxima SE. thank you. brydon
02-04-2005, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by brydon
I recently got into maximas (280z man by fame).I purchased a mint 92 SE with a broken timing chain. I had a dual overhead sent over from japan, 2200 miles on it, with all the japanese writing on filter and such. this car goes like stink. could someone tell me the horsepower of this engine, as I can smoke my buddies 04 maxima SE. thank you. brydon
02-04-2005, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by brydon
I recently got into maximas (280z man by fame).I purchased a mint 92 SE with a broken timing chain. I had a dual overhead sent over from japan, 2200 miles on it, with all the japanese writing on filter and such. this car goes like stink. could someone tell me the horsepower of this engine, as I can smoke my buddies 04 maxima SE. thank you. brydon
on topic... uh... nice buy!
02-04-2005, 09:49 PM
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My JDM definitely seems stronger than the old engine (not by that much, though), but I think it's just because the original engine had almost 150k on it. I don't think I would stand a chance against an 04 Max, even with my mods.
Shawn has a good question -- what did you swap over?
Other good questionis -- is your car a 5-speed or an AT?
Shawn has a good question -- what did you swap over?
Other good questionis -- is your car a 5-speed or an AT?
02-05-2005, 05:41 AM
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My car is an automatic, with the power switch on the console. I dida direct swap with only factory parts, and a cold air intake. I read somewhere about the Japanese hosepower law being 276 horse found in many of the older jdm engines. I work in auto service and drive many cars everyday,and this is not at all bragging rights, but this is one of the fastest cars I have ever driven. When I tromp it the front tires just light right up, and the car tends to drift in the front because of this. Like I said, I am not bragging about the car, it just blows my mind in a way. Thanks brydon
02-05-2005, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by brydon
Japanese hosepower law being 276 horse found in many of the older jdm engines.
02-05-2005, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by brydon
My car is an automatic, with the power switch on the console. I dida direct swap with only factory parts, and a cold air intake. I read somewhere about the Japanese hosepower law being 276 horse found in many of the older jdm engines. I work in auto service and drive many cars everyday,and this is not at all bragging rights, but this is one of the fastest cars I have ever driven. When I tromp it the front tires just light right up, and the car tends to drift in the front because of this. Like I said, I am not bragging about the car, it just blows my mind in a way. Thanks brydon
What kind of cars does your work service, Hondas 
? I've heard of the law that your talking about, I think the government limited factory cars to 280 hp or something. So alot of cars claimed they had 280 but were pushing 320-340, kind of funny.
02-05-2005, 11:23 AM
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So you can just go get the JDM, put it in and it will just start up?
Factory car wiring harness/ECU?
I'm just used to 240's and such where you have to mess around with crap.
Factory car wiring harness/ECU?
I'm just used to 240's and such where you have to mess around with crap.
02-05-2005, 01:07 PM
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Dyno and track time....
Where did you order the engine from? Perhaps it was a performance VE already?? have you checked the compression to see if it is stock 10:1 or higher???
Did you put any parts from the original car onto the JDM engine?
Brian
Where did you order the engine from? Perhaps it was a performance VE already?? have you checked the compression to see if it is stock 10:1 or higher???
Did you put any parts from the original car onto the JDM engine?
Brian
02-05-2005, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 1992maxman
Dyno and track time....
Where did you order the engine from? Perhaps it was a performance VE already?? have you checked the compression to see if it is stock 10:1 or higher???
Brian
Where did you order the engine from? Perhaps it was a performance VE already?? have you checked the compression to see if it is stock 10:1 or higher???
Brian
ill laugh that off
02-05-2005, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mtnbikeair
Is weight really that big of a deal, i mean i do alot of bikes and weights a big deal, but 300 pounds can make or break a cars chance of winning?
It's even worse with Hondas, but not so bad with v8's and such.
02-05-2005, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mtnbikeair
So when people talk about like gutting their cars for racing, its no joke what it can do?
02-05-2005, 06:43 PM
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if you're going to with a full out drag or track car then i'd try to get it as light as possible (within the regulations of the drag and/or track rules). the general rule of thumb for drag racing is 100 lb. drop equals 1/10 of a second drop in the 1/4.
02-05-2005, 07:00 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...950742699&rd=1
Someone needs to buy that!!!!
Someone needs to buy that!!!!
02-05-2005, 08:03 PM
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i know about the whole na VG30DE pistons but were talking about a stock jdm VE here which would never come with those
and ive also heard 100lb = 10hp
i had 3 friends in my car last night for about an extra 600lbs and i could tell a huge diference car was alot slower than normal
and ive also heard 100lb = 10hp
i had 3 friends in my car last night for about an extra 600lbs and i could tell a huge diference car was alot slower than normal
02-05-2005, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by subs1000w
i know about the whole na VG30DE pistons but were talking about a stock jdm VE here which would never come with those
I was just saying it was possible to have a JDM with a little more hp than say mine.
Actually, I was looking at the stock 6th gen times (mid to high 14s) and it would be possible to match a 6th gen if your car was modded pretty good. Aaron could beat a stock one, I am pretty sure and his car is an AT. However, I know he has done a lot of mods and some serious weight reduction.
02-06-2005, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Red92MaxSE
maybe the previous owner in Japan put those in
I was just saying it was possible to have a JDM with a little more hp than say mine.
Actually, I was looking at the stock 6th gen times (mid to high 14s) and it would be possible to match a 6th gen if your car was modded pretty good. Aaron could beat a stock one, I am pretty sure and his car is an AT. However, I know he has done a lot of mods and some serious weight reduction.
I was just saying it was possible to have a JDM with a little more hp than say mine.
Actually, I was looking at the stock 6th gen times (mid to high 14s) and it would be possible to match a 6th gen if your car was modded pretty good. Aaron could beat a stock one, I am pretty sure and his car is an AT. However, I know he has done a lot of mods and some serious weight reduction.
Brydon, get on the dyno or just go to the track! If you say you are a "close to stock" VE30DE Automatic, then if you can "light" the tires up and cause smoke to rise, then you have some SERIOUS work done to that car! B/C I think I am the only VE Auto on this entire board that is able to light my tires up from a stand still without a N drop. So get to the track and post some numbers! It sounds like you have more of a VE Auto beast than I do! I am interested in your car, tell me more.
02-07-2005, 10:05 AM
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Man, I wish i had saved the link and the telephone # to this website that I had found years ago when I first joind the org. back in '97. I think Nismo87 might still have it.
Anyway, to make a long story short; there was this company somewhere back east that builds custom V8's and V6's. And one of their custom motors involved a VE pushing 320hp at the crank ALL MOTOR. I spoke with the owner back in the day and it was true. The mods involved was basically a 3.0 VE bored out to a 3.2 with an 11:1 compression. Other mods involved ported and polished heads ,knife edged crank and other of his own little tweaks.
Of course, the whole motor shipped set you back $9500. Definetly not worth it, but it's just cool to know there is someone out there willing to spend time on the VE. If I EVER find that company, i'll be sure to post it.
So basically what i'm saying is that, it IS possible to to push some good HP ALL MOTOR from our beloved VE's. It's just that the $/HP ratio is waaaay off.
Anyway, to make a long story short; there was this company somewhere back east that builds custom V8's and V6's. And one of their custom motors involved a VE pushing 320hp at the crank ALL MOTOR. I spoke with the owner back in the day and it was true. The mods involved was basically a 3.0 VE bored out to a 3.2 with an 11:1 compression. Other mods involved ported and polished heads ,knife edged crank and other of his own little tweaks.
Of course, the whole motor shipped set you back $9500. Definetly not worth it, but it's just cool to know there is someone out there willing to spend time on the VE. If I EVER find that company, i'll be sure to post it.
So basically what i'm saying is that, it IS possible to to push some good HP ALL MOTOR from our beloved VE's. It's just that the $/HP ratio is waaaay off.
02-07-2005, 10:26 AM
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http://www.hekimianracing.com/nissan3lna.html
going with a turbo would still be better. the torque output of a boosted engine far outweighs a n/a engine. i think on this engine they're using around 10.5:1 cr pistons.
going with a turbo would still be better. the torque output of a boosted engine far outweighs a n/a engine. i think on this engine they're using around 10.5:1 cr pistons.
02-07-2005, 11:27 AM
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True. But making power and making power all day, every day for many thousands of miles are different things.
Originally Posted by subs1000w
ya thats a pretty big waste of money
you could make twice that power with a turbo for the same $$$$ with a VG30ET
you could make twice that power with a turbo for the same $$$$ with a VG30ET
02-07-2005, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mtcookson
i still don't agree with that... 
And damnit when will Brydon answer my questions about swapping parts and crap.
02-07-2005, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MrGone
Thats because you dont see the fun in the challenge of squeezing every last ounce out of an NA engine.
And damnit when will Brydon answer my questions about swapping parts and crap.
And damnit when will Brydon answer my questions about swapping parts and crap.
the only way we can compete is with boost. remember that 14.7psi of boost efectivly doubles the CI of the engine so our 181CI VEs and VGs will have 362CI of RAW MUSCLE with 15psi and that levels the playing field
i would guess the max you could get out of a NA 3.0 VE would be maybe 250whp and that would require an insaine amount of money and that max would still be slow ie run 13's. id be cheaper to swap a VQ35 with all the goodies or just go FI
02-07-2005, 01:12 PM
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i just don't see how cruising with a turbo and low compression could be less reliable than an high compression n/a engine constantly pounding the internals. the combustion chamber pressure of both would be very different when they are both at cruising speeds/throttle. now when at wot i can see the boosted engine being less reliable due to the heat and all that but a daily driven car isn't going to be at wot near as much as a race car.