Hi,

My car takes an unusually long time to warm up. During cold weather (-10C) it can be up to half an hour of driving around before the engine temp is at the normal (middle) position. I suspected the thermostat and replaced it, but to no avail. (The old thermostat tested good!)

Is there anything else I should be looking at? My 1996 Max takes half that time to come up to temperature.

Chris...

 

1. Check if your radiator fans stay on all the time.
2. Check ignition timing - if it is too retarded, fuel does not have a chance to produce enough heat (and power too)

I use higher octane gas in winter. Makes little difference from power perspective, but quite big difference in time required to warm up to NOT.

 

Old tired engines will take longer to warm up. Been there.

 

Makes little difference from power perspective,

Higher octane will make no horsepower and their for you feel no diffrerence
in power.

 

Ouch! Driving your car around cold for a half hr and its still doesnt get hot? Sorry I can't help ya with that, but I don't think its a good idea for you to be driving your car cold to begin with - you're just asking for other MAJOR engine problems...

 

Please advise how he could NOT drive his car cold.

 

live in arizona

 

Wrong. There are cold areas in Arizona also. Snowflake for instance.

 

OK, goto phoenix

 

Yeah that outa fix him right up.

 

Put a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator.

 

To Experts: Is it possible his problem lies within the gauge itself? Maybe some type of sensor needs to be cleaned? Don't really know the system.

 

Is the gauge reading on par with the heated air coming to the cabin? If not, change temp sensor.

Sensor at right

edit: strange. Cardomain or org down = no pics... HERE should be three!








Start the cold engine and check the thermostat working: the thick hose should be about cold until after five ? minutes as the thermostat opens towards radiator. Feels hot after that.

Pinch that hose almost closed to limit flow to rad, any difference?

 

I had this happen to me once this winter. I was a very frigid day and driving to work I noticed the temp guage trying to reach the mid point, then it would go back down, then up a little, and after 40 minutes it was at its point. I thought it was my thermostat at 1st, but it has only happened to me once.

 

Anyways, arent we lucky as our problems are under 15 computers and wiring. New cars contain up to 100. We will see a day that number being near 1000. Then cars will talk to each other...

That is a sweet future for all ah the death cultists to attack. Whole higway paralyzed via one highspeedvirus...

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/c...-security.html
"The mobile-virus threat will grow in the future as virus-writers become more sophisticated and phones standardize on technologies that make it easier for viruses to spread across not just specific devices but the whole industry...."


The revenge of supercomputer professor will be child play...

 

hows about NOT drive it when its cold...
Dont put your foot on the brake, dont change the gear into Drive, dont hit the gas.

Let the car idle until it warms up....eventually

lol thats how you not drive it cold - There was no need for your smartass comment..I was simply stating that hes asking for MORE problems he probably dont need.

 

Took you THAT long to come up with THAT?

You just told the guy NOT to drive the cold because that might cause MAJOR problems correct???

Please explain in detail how he's going not drive it cold?? Keep it running all night?

 

I really don't think the guy cares about this thread anymore.

 

Yea Jeff - it took me THAT LONG TO COME UP WIT THAT... actually I dont live online all day all nite long. I have a L I F E heard of it? I get around see the dam country so stop hatin on me.

your pathetic...come on here just to talk down to people. Thats sad, really sad. I pity you.

It was just a suggestion to the guy NOT TO YOUR DUMBAZZ so please be on your way...go find someone to cyber with.

P.S. I NEVER told him not to drive it when its cold...just said he shouldn't. Since he's going to cause himself more problems I actually think he might want to look into purchasing a new Max

 

How about you answer the question?? Or can you?? Then how about not giving out advice on things you know nothing about.

 

well i was writing in response to jeff...not to the one who started the thread - I just hate people who think theyre hot $hit and instigate pathetic arguments all day long just cause they have NOTHING better to do and a monitor and keyboard are there to protect them!

 

ADVICE...SUGGESTION 2 different things - I already stated that I CANT HELP HIM or his prob

and my ADVICE to you is to get a dam life cause I do know something about that! hehe margaritis anyone? LOL

P.S. - He said it only takes about hlf hr or so...last time i checked a half hour doesnt last ALL NIGHT (but then again...maybe you just think it does cause what your used to)

 

somebody close this thread please...............

 

Excuse me but I AM HOT $hit thank you!

All I asked is you back up your advice. All you have done is flame. Now who has flamed more???? Hmmmm???

Apparently I need a keyboard to protect me. But it's clear you need a mechanic to protect your engine.

 

*yawn* again wrong. What happens when he starts the car again the next day??? Will the engine be hot or cold? If cold, he has to drive it cold. But you just told him NOT to drive it cold.

 

Yea I do need a mechanic actually, hence why I come on here...to get advice from people who are actually HELPFUL

and I ALREADY SAID FOR THE READING IMPAIRED (cough cough) Jeff! that "SORRY I CANT HELP YA WIT THAT PROB" but then went on to SUGGEST that he NOT drive it cold cause hes only asking for more problems which is the dam truth! Driving your engine cold will crack blocks...crack hoses, etc etc etc if you want to then go ahead, ruin your car I dont give a f*ck!

and i did back up my advice...if it takes a hlf hr for the car to warm up (like he said...NOT all night) then whats the problem with starting the car a hlf hr in advance until he fixes the prob?!?! a remote started might be a thought.......

what are you really a member of this site for??? to help people drive their cars cold or what...im getting mixed messages since your so dam adamant about this corny $hit

 

omg are you really that dumb?? i mean really???

everyday is a new day...everyday has more than one half an hr in it....that means EVERYDAY he can start the dam car and wait a hlf hr...til the prob is fixed that is
omg who gives a **** anyway.....close the thread

 

I've helped 100x more people than you ever will.

Then don't give some craptastic advice. Cracks blocks??? Can you explain that one also??

Um what is the difference inbetween driving the car cold and idling the car for 1/2 hour cold?? Another example of bad advice from someone.

I'm an admin you ignorant tard. I keep this type of shat from the forums. But sometimes people need a good old fashioned flame or two. For the entertainment value you know?

 

OMG - I just read your profile Jeff (shoulda earlier) You were born in 1968??? 68?????

You're 3 years away from being 40!!! Honestly, don't you really have anything better to do than this petty $hit? Holy crap...I'm only 19 and although i stray from my maturity every so often (like now) I just cant believe how far you've gone being 37! Well...i guess its true...guys are always kids at heart.

 

Your 19?!?! By your advice, I thought you were 13!

 

driving the car cold, lets see....the car drives when you hit the gas. the gas is ignited by a burning flame...that rush of hot air on something so cold (-10 degrees i believe he said) CRACKS the metal engine block..
but the most important reason for letting your car warm up is so the oil that is cold and thick and sitting at the bottom of the car can warm up and work its way through and lubricate the engine so your not grinding all the parts as you drive...I cant believe im lecturing a 40yr old DUDE on cars! this is great

p.s. i love u 2 sugarplum!

 

Hey chief. Driving or not, the engine is still running.

Burning flame huh? Buahaha Try a spark plug.

Um what?? So anyone that drives their car in -10 degree weather is going to crack the block?? Hmmmm ever wonder why you NEVER, EVER see reports of this?? Because your reasoning is 100% false.

Um what? There is oil in the engine within probably less than 2 seconds of starting the car. Again you have NO idea what you are talking about.

I can't believe the lack of basic automotive knowledge on your part. The sad part is you actually think you know something.

I build my 1st 510 from an empty shell at 16. At 19, you still trying to figure out how an engine operates.

 

this is so great, my favorite is the burning flame......sorta like LMariE(iCantSpELlwitOutCaPsonSOmeTimeS)91MaxIMa getting flamed....

but shes right, ive cracked my block bout 30000 times this winter alone

 

I was born in 64 and I am 40!!! what is wrong with that??? Jeff you cant argue with this block head, he is angry with himself for posting such a STUPID answer and now cant end the thread to put himself out of misery!! keep up the good work Jeff and dont back down from this moron who has no helfull advice for anyone!

 

BTW Governor, its a girl not a guy.

 

well shes .
Keep fighting Jeff, I'm rooting for you!

 

what you think, this is a semi

 

[QUOTE=Governor]I was born in 64 and I am 40!!! what is wrong with that???

Never said anything was wrong with his age...I JUST COULDNT BELIEVE HOW IMMATURE HE IS FOR BEING ALMOST 40 dayum

 

hes not being immature, hes being truthful. you claim to be helping people by telling them stuff thats not true. youre a retard for thinking what you say is right....where did you learn about cars? because you should seriously apologize to jeff and go read some books or something.

 

I build my 1st 510 from an empty shell at 16. At 19, you still trying to figure out how an engine operates. [/QUOTE]