coil pack cracks
coil pack cracks
I've inspected all my ignition coils... but I dont see any cracks, there are some light scrapes... how hard is it to see the cracks? can they be too small to see with the naked eye?
my coils all ohmed out at 11.2, across the board... and none had any visible cracks - i'm trying to work out the old bucking/stalling/dying issue.
tom
my coils all ohmed out at 11.2, across the board... and none had any visible cracks - i'm trying to work out the old bucking/stalling/dying issue.
tom
Originally Posted by Minty91GXE
... i'm trying to work out the old bucking/stalling/dying issue.
tom
tom
How about KS?
thanks wiking, i wrapped them in electrical tape, but it didnt help at all.
i've tested all the coils, fuel injectors, maf (replaced), relays (engine and ignition coil) (replaced), TPS, vacuum lines, replaced plugs and fuel filter.
KS is the next step. I know that it can be tested with an ohmmeter at the harness, but I do no know where that is... could someone lead me to the right spot to test it out, I just took the intake manifold off to replace a fuel injector. maybe now twice in 3 days! man, this sucks.
on the side - my other large problem: my autotrans constantly disengages the gear i am travelling in and then re-engages it. it as annoying as you can imagine and possibly more.
oh - and neither problem surfaces until the engine is warm
tom
ps- do you really drive on a lake? that sounds like fun
i've tested all the coils, fuel injectors, maf (replaced), relays (engine and ignition coil) (replaced), TPS, vacuum lines, replaced plugs and fuel filter.
KS is the next step. I know that it can be tested with an ohmmeter at the harness, but I do no know where that is... could someone lead me to the right spot to test it out, I just took the intake manifold off to replace a fuel injector. maybe now twice in 3 days! man, this sucks.
on the side - my other large problem: my autotrans constantly disengages the gear i am travelling in and then re-engages it. it as annoying as you can imagine and possibly more.
oh - and neither problem surfaces until the engine is warm
tom
ps- do you really drive on a lake? that sounds like fun
Originally Posted by Minty91GXE
....on the side - my other large problem: my autotrans constantly disengages the gear i am travelling in and then re-engages it. it as annoying as you can imagine and possibly more.
oh - and neither problem surfaces until the engine is warm
tom
ps- do you really drive on a lake? that sounds like fun
oh - and neither problem surfaces until the engine is warm
tom
ps- do you really drive on a lake? that sounds like fun
Most probably coils are then ok. KS has a connector, in VE KS is located between cyl banks, try to find its wire, and follow it to the connector. Install a bypass 0.5Mohm resistor for testing (fill with high octane first). The resistance meas might not tell the truth while engine revving...
Tranny prbl could be mech gear linkage wear, or electronics: low voltage at TCU, connector oxidation problem. Check out my web pages to get the idea although the tranny itself is different.
If engine has trouble only after warmup, that points to O2 which then takes over from TPS. TPS is still used by tranny, that could be a problem source... clean or replace. clic on http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/748507/6
On the Lakes: Summertime its somewhat problematic
, its better to do it on full frozen lake, ten inches minimum. Most fun is when 4" snow, speed 60mph or over, swing car to 45%angle and keep going, swing to other side, keep going. Speeding endlessly, bigger than airfields... (btw, thats the only fun here beside taxes. Oh. forgot maxima)
Originally Posted by Minty91GXE
thanks wiking, i wrapped them in electrical tape, but it didnt help at all.
i've tested all the coils, fuel injectors, maf (replaced), relays (engine and ignition coil) (replaced), TPS, vacuum lines, replaced plugs and fuel filter.
KS is the next step. I know that it can be tested with an ohmmeter at the harness, but I do no know where that is... could someone lead me to the right spot to test it out, I just took the intake manifold off to replace a fuel injector. maybe now twice in 3 days! man, this sucks.
on the side - my other large problem: my autotrans constantly disengages the gear i am travelling in and then re-engages it. it as annoying as you can imagine and possibly more.
oh - and neither problem surfaces until the engine is warm
tom
ps- do you really drive on a lake? that sounds like fun
i've tested all the coils, fuel injectors, maf (replaced), relays (engine and ignition coil) (replaced), TPS, vacuum lines, replaced plugs and fuel filter.
KS is the next step. I know that it can be tested with an ohmmeter at the harness, but I do no know where that is... could someone lead me to the right spot to test it out, I just took the intake manifold off to replace a fuel injector. maybe now twice in 3 days! man, this sucks.
on the side - my other large problem: my autotrans constantly disengages the gear i am travelling in and then re-engages it. it as annoying as you can imagine and possibly more.
oh - and neither problem surfaces until the engine is warm
tom
ps- do you really drive on a lake? that sounds like fun
Do you have a VE or a VG?
If you have a VE read, on. If you have a VG, I can't help you.
The cracks I had on my center front coil pack were easy to spot, running up and down in a straight line.
My problem was one of the rear coil packs. When I replaced it, all of the bucking/stalling went away. I don't have a tester, so I just replaced all three rears with ones I bought from an .org member that wrecked his car (engine was fine when he crashed). I have those same good coil packs on ebay right now if you are interested. (posted in for sale forum). I also have a spare Cam Position Sensor that I would probably sell, along with a JDM Cam Position Sensor. I have no idea if it works the same or not, but it looks different.
I don't think wrapping coil packs in electrical tape will help a whole lot. I tried it and it didn't stop the bucking problems I was having. It did seem to smooth out my rought idle some, but I replaced the cracked coil pack that I had taped.
Have you replaced your o2 sensor? That is another thing that I recall some people replacing to cure some bucking problems.
If you do a search, there is a very large thread about the bucking/stalling occurance on the VE. There are several different solutions and possible solutions.
thanks guys! i have both a VG and a VE, but this is about the VE, the VG has never given me any problems. matt i read that thread a few times, even have it bookmarked! its helped me get this far, but there wasn't much talk about the O2 sensor being the culprit.
I took out the O2 sensor, and... it looks like the top was torn off. it resembles a spark plug top now instead of the split top dome. if i unplug it.... will that allow me to test for the hesitation, the "vuh vuh vuh vuh vuh vroooooom" problem? or will it aggravate it?
the bung hole is all messed up... not sure what to do about that. its too big to rethread as far as i've seen. i have a spare y-pipe from my VG, not sure if it fits though.
as far as the resistor goes, i have never done that, i'll have to learn how. maybe you could tell me if you have the time -
how does you install a bypass resistor? i do this test with the engine warm and running? i'll go locate the connection now... can i buy the resistor at pep boys or some crappy store like that?
tom
ps - yea that picture of the maxima looking longlingly at the lake... wishing, had me cracked up
I took out the O2 sensor, and... it looks like the top was torn off. it resembles a spark plug top now instead of the split top dome. if i unplug it.... will that allow me to test for the hesitation, the "vuh vuh vuh vuh vuh vroooooom" problem? or will it aggravate it?
the bung hole is all messed up... not sure what to do about that. its too big to rethread as far as i've seen. i have a spare y-pipe from my VG, not sure if it fits though.
as far as the resistor goes, i have never done that, i'll have to learn how. maybe you could tell me if you have the time -
how does you install a bypass resistor? i do this test with the engine warm and running? i'll go locate the connection now... can i buy the resistor at pep boys or some crappy store like that?
tom
ps - yea that picture of the maxima looking longlingly at the lake... wishing, had me cracked up
Yeah and the coil packs, regular electrical tape will not do anything. Regular vinyl electrical tape only works up to 600V, rubber electrical tape is higher but still not enough (also its too thick to fit, I've tried). I'm using Kapton tape, which works at 10kV and above and its very thin. I don't know what our coils are rated at, but its at least 20-40kV.
i replaced one of the bushings, the easy one under the shifter - the other i can't locate the part # or where it goes, in order to see if it is still there. i think my coil packs are fine... but will look for that tape in case i go back to them as the culprit,
thanks for all the posting and advice everyone, i hope i can resolve this
tom
thanks for all the posting and advice everyone, i hope i can resolve this
tom
Originally Posted by Minty91GXE
i replaced one of the bushings, the easy one under the shifter - the other i can't locate the part # or where it goes, in order to see if it is still there. i think my coil packs are fine... but will look for that tape in case i go back to them as the culprit,
thanks for all the posting and advice everyone, i hope i can resolve this
tom
thanks for all the posting and advice everyone, i hope i can resolve this
tom
The other one is above the cat convertor heat shield, use ramps, a jack kinda gets in the way. Un screw the heat shield and slide it back, that is the one that fell off on my max. Any nissan dealer should be able to find it, its like twice the size of the one in the front (just so they don't try to sell you the wrong one).
Originally Posted by Minty91GXE
...... not sure what to do about that. its too big to rethread as far as i've seen. i have a spare y-pipe from my VG, not sure if it fits though.
as far as the resistor goes, i have never done that, i'll have to learn how. maybe you could tell me if you have the time -
how does you install a bypass resistor? i do this test with the engine warm and running? i'll go locate the connection now... can i buy the resistor at pep boys or some crappy store like that?....
as far as the resistor goes, i have never done that, i'll have to learn how. maybe you could tell me if you have the time -
how does you install a bypass resistor? i do this test with the engine warm and running? i'll go locate the connection now... can i buy the resistor at pep boys or some crappy store like that?....
- weld some more stuff there, rethread
- coilpacks can be tst sealed with tape, std tape will keep the 15KV in for a tst duration if well taped... as mentioned, dry cloth is better in tst. Buy lacquer and spray to keep them going.
- resistor: take KS connector off, insert resistor into ECU side. I had 1Mohm resistors, just paired to get 0.5Mohm. The resistance value is vague, no need to be exact. clic on: http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/748507/9
- any electronics shop will have resistors plenty... 5cents apiece, 5 dollars per 1000

- note: t-here has been 'some' heated discussion 'how to destroy' your engine without KS; (the tingie is used in retarding ign in case of knocking eg. premature ignition.) Ruining engine is possible wit KS bypass using low octane gas, --->as with any too advanced ignition setting. Anyways, long ago I took the KS off (immediate response) and have not been using it since. I can only get 95 octane here (BUT: smbdy said some US 91 octane is the same as we have here 95RON, dunno...)
- VE compression rate 9:1 versus VG 8:1 makes this KS bypass issue more acute on VE, but still its basically question of ign timing.
ok i had to replace to y-pipe with one i had lying around due to its extreme wear.... the new exhaust sensor will go in that.
my last issue, before i go to knock sensor. can anyone describe where exactly, or have a picture of where the second bushing is on the shift linkage, the one closer to the transmission. I couldnt find it in my FSM
tom
my last issue, before i go to knock sensor. can anyone describe where exactly, or have a picture of where the second bushing is on the shift linkage, the one closer to the transmission. I couldnt find it in my FSM
tom
Originally Posted by Minty91GXE
ok i had to replace to y-pipe with one i had lying around due to its extreme wear.... the new exhaust sensor will go in that.
my last issue, before i go to knock sensor. can anyone describe where exactly, or have a picture of where the second bushing is on the shift linkage, the one closer to the transmission. I couldnt find it in my FSM
tom
my last issue, before i go to knock sensor. can anyone describe where exactly, or have a picture of where the second bushing is on the shift linkage, the one closer to the transmission. I couldnt find it in my FSM
tom
follow the cable to tranny, the bushing sits right where the loop from the cable connects to the tranny. its a white nylon bushing.
In effect remove the cable from the tranny if there is no bushing, then its gone.
Wiking, on a VE you cannot wrap the coil several times, the gap between the coil and the head is 1/4 inch (or less probably 1/8 inch).
Originally Posted by eric93SE
... the gap between the coil and the head is 1/4 inch (or less probably 1/8 inch).
On caps I've found pretty good the engine plastics lacquer.

is it to the right of the green dot, under the cotter pin? damn... its still there if that's it. a solid white plastic bushing.
dont know where to go now... shouldnt touch the linkage adjustment nuts if i recall correctly.
Originally Posted by Minty91GXE
would you believe that 02 sensor was working correctly?! the replacement didnt change a thing! i'd stab this car but its made of metal
The stub u have is not a sensor, but piece of horses burnt appendix... Still it might have some kind resistance towards ECU, and ECU is easily hoaxed.
The signal level (los STUPIDOS!) on that is 0,5V. Oxidized connector and wiring easily creates losses on such long wirey of 1-3volts. So where's the beef for ECU??? Whole car computer enviro sucks... and luckily of those sucks we have got maxima.
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/748507/14
Originally Posted by Minty91GXE

is it to the right of the green dot, under the cotter pin? damn... its still there if that's it. a solid white plastic bushing.
dont know where to go now... shouldnt touch the linkage adjustment nuts if i recall correctly.
Yes, to the right of the green dot.
"i'm trying to work out the old bucking/stalling/dying issue." if its crapping out at idle, then you might wanna clean out the IACV. I have a method that I use where the air intake tube running to the IACV, I insert the extension from a can of carb cleaner (or intake maifold cleaner) between the rubber and 90* elbow, then with the car running I spray in the cleaner. works very well. Make sure you spray in the direction of the IACV and not the MAFS. The first time I did this my idle went up over 150-200rpm, over the years the carbon build up is pretty significant, get intake manifold cleaner instead of carb cleaner, carb cleaner can ruin some of the coatings on our aluminum.
edit: also only spary in short bursts otherwise the engine will stall.
Originally Posted by eric93SE
. . . then you might wanna clean out the IACV. I have a method that I use where the air intake tube running to the IACV, I insert the extension from a can of carb cleaner (or intake maifold cleaner) between the rubber and 90* elbow, then with the car running I spray in the cleaner. works very well. Make sure you spray in the direction of the IACV and not the MAFS. The first time I did this my idle went up over 150-200rpm, over the years the carbon build up is pretty significant, get intake manifold cleaner instead of carb cleaner, carb cleaner can ruin some of the coatings on our aluminum. . . also only spary in short bursts otherwise the engine will stall.
thanks eric, i'll give that a shot. it does die while driving too though, even at a decent rpm. it cuts silently and the needle just glides back down to zero.
wont be for a day or two, i have it at AAMCO right now, letting those guys try to figure out the downshift issue, but they've had it for 2 days and no word. ha! they can't figure it out. makes me feel better about me at the least.
guess i'll have to go to the dealership for that one.
t
wont be for a day or two, i have it at AAMCO right now, letting those guys try to figure out the downshift issue, but they've had it for 2 days and no word. ha! they can't figure it out. makes me feel better about me at the least.
guess i'll have to go to the dealership for that one.
t
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Originally Posted by eric93SE
"i'm trying to work out the old bucking/stalling/dying issue." if its crapping out at idle, then you might wanna clean out the IACV. I have a method that I use where the air intake tube running to the IACV, I insert the extension from a can of carb cleaner (or intake maifold cleaner) between the rubber and 90* elbow, then with the car running I spray in the cleaner. works very well. Make sure you spray in the direction of the IACV and not the MAFS. The first time I did this my idle went up over 150-200rpm, over the years the carbon build up is pretty significant, get intake manifold cleaner instead of carb cleaner, carb cleaner can ruin some of the coatings on our aluminum.
edit: also only spary in short bursts otherwise the engine will stall.
edit: also only spary in short bursts otherwise the engine will stall.
do you remove a hose at all? the hose i think you are referring to starts off at top of TB and turns into metal tube, 90* angle down, then 90* angle left, then rubber tube...tube is least 1/2 to 3/4inch in diameter...is that the right one?
Originally Posted by blacks92seAuto
so you insert the red plastic extension from the can, inside the hose on the bottom side of the metal "U" shaped pipe with 2 90* elbow?
do you remove a hose at all? the hose i think you are referring to starts off at top of TB and turns into metal tube, 90* angle down, then 90* angle left, then rubber tube...tube is least 1/2 to 3/4inch in diameter...is that the right one?
do you remove a hose at all? the hose i think you are referring to starts off at top of TB and turns into metal tube, 90* angle down, then 90* angle left, then rubber tube...tube is least 1/2 to 3/4inch in diameter...is that the right one?
Not at the top of the TB, I guess its right after the MAFS, around 1.5" diameter, and turns down to the IACV.
Remove the hose from its elbow, insert the red extension, then partially reconnect (as best you can), then attach the can to the tube
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Originally Posted by eric93SE
Not at the top of the TB, I guess its right after the MAFS, around 1.5" diameter, and turns down to the IACV.
Remove the hose from its elbow, insert the red extension, then partially reconnect (as best you can), then attach the can to the tube
Remove the hose from its elbow, insert the red extension, then partially reconnect (as best you can), then attach the can to the tube

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