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Old May 16, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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5sp swap reverse lights

State inspection coming up soon. How did you guys make your reverse lights work?
Old May 16, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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button on the lever.
Old May 17, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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Old May 17, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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I've got the fix for you, just don't have the time to write it out now - I'm at work. I'll try to check back in this evening and tell you how to make it all work. When I did my tranny swap, I mapped out the electrical so my reverse lights, cc, and clutch switches worked just like they are supposed to.
Old May 17, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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was the 5 spd swap hard to do? was considering that in the near future..
Old May 17, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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Not terribly hard. It's pretty straight forward, just somewhat labor intensive.

Thanks alot 90pearlSE, I really appreciate it.
Old May 17, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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Not terribly hard. It's pretty straight forward, just somewhat labor intensive.

Thanks alot 90pearlSE, I really appreciate it.
cool.. so was there custom work in involved?

no seriosly tho, did it bolt right up? i know u need to get the manual tranny first with all it's equipment, and then u gotta reprogram ECU
Old May 18, 2005 | 06:38 AM
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or get a new ECU like I did, then you have to put a hole in the firewall for the clutch, and then you just bolt it all up, and splice some wires
Old May 18, 2005 | 07:02 AM
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cool.. so was there custom work in involved?

no seriosly tho, did it bolt right up? i know u need to get the manual tranny first with all it's equipment, and then u gotta reprogram ECU
might be harder for you considering your in nj. bottom of your car should have a good amount of salt getting on it every year. all your bolts will prolly be really hard to get off and watnot
Old May 18, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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might be harder for you considering your in nj. bottom of your car should have a good amount of salt getting on it every year. all your bolts will prolly be really hard to get off and watnot
im actually all over the US with this car. NY is even worse for you, eh?
Old May 18, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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well no one has ever told me witch wires? I could not figure it out help anyone?
Old May 19, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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damn i need help on this as well cuz i need my reverse lights to turn on.

Joe Fontinyatz: the swap is not hard just like rest of the guys said. u don't even need to change ur stock ECU. it bolts right up and everything so have fun.
Old May 19, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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damn i need help on this as well cuz i need my reverse lights to turn on.

Joe Fontinyatz: the swap is not hard just like rest of the guys said. u don't even need to change ur stock ECU. it bolts right up and everything so have fun.
cool, u got the tranny and all the components from a junkyard car right?
Old May 19, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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work... I guess I should get mine working sometime
Old May 20, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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Last night I wrote out a nice long post w/ pics and everything, and before I sent it my f*ing computer crashed!! Anyway, looks like it will be sometime this weekend before I can write it up again....
Old May 20, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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Ah that sucks, but I really appreciate it.
Old May 22, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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Ok, so I tried to look at the wiring on my car, but I wrapped it up in flex tube and covered it with tape - so I don't really feel like tearing that all out to see. I took a couple pics of my two cars when I did the swap to show the difference in the harnesses - the F20 harness on the manual body, and the F21 on the auto's body. The first picture is of the F20 harness, which is for reverse lights and the position sensor - 4 wires. The reverse lights use the red wire and one of the green wires. In the second picture you can see the F21 harness on the auto's body, which has a 6-pin plug and a 4-pin plug. The wires that you need to use are pulled away from the others. For the reverse lights, you need the red wire and green wire from that 6-pin plug (on the left/bottom in the pic). When I did this job on my car, I just cut off the mating end on the manual's electrical harness (that F20 plug end) and spliced in the four wires I needed to make it work right. Look at the pictures closely to see which green wire you need. If you don't have the F20 plug end, you'll just have to improvise a little. I'm assuming you have a FSM - look in the back at the electrical section for refference. Hope this helps you out.
The F20 connection on the manual tranny version's electrical harness.


And these two plug ends comprise the F21 connection on the auto tranny version's electrical harness. The two wires pulled away from the plug on the left are used for the reverse lights circuit, and the two wires pulled away from the plug on the right are used for the position sensor. **When these wires are connected properly, the car will not start unless it is in neutral. I found this to be annoying, seeing as how I wired up the clutch switch/relay and CC cut switch like it's supposed to be. I'm used to having to step on the clutch to start, but I often park in gear and having to put it in neutral to start just seemed like a bother. You can just bypass that by connecting those two wires together (I think I just used a scotch-lock as a jumper, you can just cut them from the plug and use a wirenut or something if you like).
Old May 22, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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Awsome, thanks alot. I'll have to try to get it all working tomorrow.

Somehow when I did it, I made it so it has to be in reverse to start : and never got around to fixing it. Anti-theft feature I guess.
Old May 22, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 4dscPat
Awsome, thanks alot. I'll have to try to get it all working tomorrow.

Somehow when I did it, I made it so it has to be in reverse to start : and never got around to fixing it. Anti-theft feature I guess.
only if you dont park in reverse, like most people do... :-/
Old May 23, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Fontinyatz
cool, u got the tranny and all the components from a junkyard car right?

yeah all of my parts came from a junkyard Maxima. i paid about $240 for all the parts and paid $40 for a new clutch disc and spent about 3 days doin' the conversion.
Old May 23, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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{snip} I took a couple pics of my two cars when I did the swap to show the difference in the harnesses {snip}
Awesome. It is refreshing to see someone willing to share this kind of knowledge with the general public.
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