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Old 06-27-2005 | 04:57 PM
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changing cluster from a VG into a VE...

Hello,
I want to chnage my gauge cluster from my current maxima (89) into my new one(92 se). What would I have to change in order to make it show the right speed. Thank you in advance!
Old 06-27-2005 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by maximapitko
Hello,
I want to chnage my gauge cluster from my current maxima (89) into my new one(92 se). What would I have to change in order to make it show the right speed. Thank you in advance!

what do u mean change ur current one from ur '89 and into ur new one ('92 SE)??? if u mean if u can put a '92-'94 SE gauge cluster into ur '89 u don't have to do anything in recalibratin' ur speedometer. u just have to swap ur '89 cluster and put in the '92-'94 SE cluster in and ur done.
Old 06-27-2005 | 05:28 PM
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hmmm, i thought that since one of them goes up to 125 and the other one up to 145, I would have to change something-speed sensor may be?
Old 06-28-2005 | 06:15 AM
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just change the cluster and drive.
Old 06-28-2005 | 06:24 AM
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it is a direct swap

no recalibration crap required



I did this on antonthegreys car over 2 years ago, just swap out the speedo, its the easiest way.
Old 06-28-2005 | 06:10 PM
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Well the RPM guage is different too... so if you do switch the whole thing make sure you know where your redline should be
Old 06-29-2005 | 05:59 AM
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I just swapped an 89 se into a 92 gxe and it was a nightmare. Everything just plugged up but since the 92 has an airbag and 89 doesn't some lights wouldn't go off on my dash. The speedo and everything else worked but those annoying lights drove me crazy. I went and got 2 more from the u-pull it yard; same thing. Finally i took them apart and put them back together. That's when I found out the great lenghts nissan went through to differentiate thes two clusters. The rpm and mph are different. 92 gxe are screwed in se is glued on. they have different plastic brackets for the gauges to mount on after frankensteining the gauges my rpm and mph wouldn't move properly. After investigating the gxe needles have weights on them and the se didn't put gxe needles on se rpm and mph. Worked perfectly. Took up my whole day and iwas supposed to change my power steering lines. Sorry this is so long but I had to share
Old 06-29-2005 | 06:10 AM
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why didnt you just unplug those bulbs or remove them or whatever?
Old 06-29-2005 | 05:02 PM
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I just swapped an 89 se into a 92 gxe and it was a nightmare. Everything just plugged up but since the 92 has an airbag and 89 doesn't some lights wouldn't go off on my dash. The speedo and everything else worked but those annoying lights drove me crazy. I went and got 2 more from the u-pull it yard; same thing. Finally i took them apart and put them back together. That's when I found out the great lenghts nissan went through to differentiate thes two clusters. The rpm and mph are different. 92 gxe are screwed in se is glued on. they have different plastic brackets for the gauges to mount on after frankensteining the gauges my rpm and mph wouldn't move properly. After investigating the gxe needles have weights on them and the se didn't put gxe needles on se rpm and mph. Worked perfectly. Took up my whole day and iwas supposed to change my power steering lines. Sorry this is so long but I had to share

u went through all that crap for nothing. i basically did the same crap to my cluster. i took off my GXE cluster and took out the gauge faces and then swapped in the '93 SE gauge faces and it worked out just fine to me. i did it this way cuz i didn't pay for the gauge faces if u know what i mean . either way i couldn't take the whole SE cluster but i managed to take the gauge faces and just took my GXE cluster apart and installed the SE gauge faces. i got pics of it in my cardomain site.
Old 06-29-2005 | 06:10 PM
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i was actually thinking about doing this too. but my mileage will be different. nice to know now, just change the cluster. i thought another thing had to be changed also. just plug in the 3 plugs in the back of it right?
Old 06-29-2005 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by vansskaterfreek
i was actually thinking about doing this too. but my mileage will be different. nice to know now, just change the cluster. i thought another thing had to be changed also. just plug in the 3 plugs in the back of it right?
you can swap ODOs out of the clusters, its not hard to do
Old 06-29-2005 | 06:18 PM
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anyone have a diagram of it???
Old 06-29-2005 | 07:42 PM
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You just unscrew like four screws and it comes out... its very easy, give it a try first and then if you still cant get it ask for help.
Old 06-29-2005 | 09:18 PM
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ya, ichanged the dash lights, ihad it out before, so it is just basically plug in the VE unit and the spedometer will work fine, no tuning AT ALL?
Old 06-30-2005 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tripleGmax
why didnt you just unplug those bulbs or remove them or whatever?
Because I didn't want to drive around with unneccesary bulbs on and what if you remove an important bulb. If I am going to do it i will do it right
Old 06-30-2005 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by GRNMAXDMON
u went through all that crap for nothing. i basically did the same crap to my cluster. i took off my GXE cluster and took out the gauge faces and then swapped in the '93 SE gauge faces and it worked out just fine to me. i did it this way cuz i didn't pay for the gauge faces if u know what i mean . either way i couldn't take the whole SE cluster but i managed to take the gauge faces and just took my GXE cluster apart and installed the SE gauge faces. i got pics of it in my cardomain site.
If you read my quote you would have noticed i did the same thing as you took the faces out of an sohc se cluster and put them in a 92 gxe cluster so tell me what is the difference; looks like you did the same amount of work as me
Old 06-30-2005 | 12:08 PM
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my bad i thought you had an 89 and swapped a 92 one in. i misread that. i see why you didnt undo the bulbs now. does it work ok though?
Old 06-30-2005 | 12:21 PM
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yes it works okay now but it was just a little bit more than what i planned for. I thought it was plug and play. I didn't mean to snap either but many people on here are quick to try to dis you or act like you don't know something. This is my 3rd 3rd gen ; i had a fourth and a fifth gen. Got a 300zx and have had numerous other cars and I have wrenched on all of them. Also If I don't know about something I won't talk about it unless I did it or seen it done.
Old 06-30-2005 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rawmax1
If you read my quote you would have noticed i did the same thing as you took the faces out of an sohc se cluster and put them in a 92 gxe cluster so tell me what is the difference; looks like you did the same amount of work as me

i might have but the part that u said about GXE's being screwed in and SE's r glued on is true but all i did was just take off the screws from behind and swap them out and thats it. i didn't go through the hassle of recalibratin' anything and what not.
Old 07-01-2005 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by GRNMAXDMON
i might have but the part that u said about GXE's being screwed in and SE's r glued on is true but all i did was just take off the screws from behind and swap them out and thats it. i didn't go through the hassle of recalibratin' anything and what not.
I had to change my needles because the gxe needles have weights and the se's don't so when I stepped on the gas hard they would spin wildly. put back on gxe needles on mph/rpm and it worked smoothly. Also if you look at the electrical mechanisms behind the rpm/mph on the two clusters you will notice they are different but the ones on the fuel and temp are the same.
Old 07-01-2005 | 09:23 AM
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I modified my VG cluster several years ago. I just swapped out the speedometers and left everything else alone. That way you get the correct redline on the VG tach and all of your accessory lights still work correctly.
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Originally Posted by Pervis Anathema
I modified my VG cluster several years ago. I just swapped out the speedometers and left everything else alone. That way you get the correct redline on the VG tach and all of your accessory lights still work correctly.
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nice sig
Thanks! I am thinking about adding some text to it. Something along the lines of "One is quick... One is not." But I am not sure if that sounds
Old 07-01-2005 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rawmax1
I had to change my needles because the gxe needles have weights and the se's don't so when I stepped on the gas hard they would spin wildly. put back on gxe needles on mph/rpm and it worked smoothly. Also if you look at the electrical mechanisms behind the rpm/mph on the two clusters you will notice they are different but the ones on the fuel and temp are the same.

i understand what ur sayin' but i still didn't need to do that. all i did was just swap the gauge faces not the whole cluster and mine still correctly. theres been a few members on here that have done somewhat of the same thing and they didn't go through the situation that u went through.
Old 07-01-2005 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GRNMAXDMON
i understand what ur sayin' but i still didn't need to do that. all i did was just swap the gauge faces not the whole cluster and mine still correctly. theres been a few members on here that have done somewhat of the same thing and they didn't go through the situation that u went through.
Well we could go on and on about how i did it and how they did it. But all i can speak for is my car. Maybe those guys used gauges from a dohc se cluster; mines was from a sohc se. I went through a few clusters so obviously the design was different; and once again the se rpm/mph needles wouln't work with my gxe cluster. I never owned a dohc se or had it's cluster apart so i wouldn't know the difference. Also I didn't want to do all that work; I planned to change all my power steering hoses that day but felt it was more important to know how fast my engine was going and revving
Old 07-04-2005 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by rawmax1
Well we could go on and on about how i did it and how they did it. But all i can speak for is my car. Maybe those guys used gauges from a dohc se cluster; mines was from a sohc se. I went through a few clusters so obviously the design was different; and once again the se rpm/mph needles wouln't work with my gxe cluster. I never owned a dohc se or had it's cluster apart so i wouldn't know the difference. Also I didn't want to do all that work; I planned to change all my power steering hoses that day but felt it was more important to know how fast my engine was going and revving

i agree but i didn't know u were usin' the SOHC SE gauges so thats y we were goin' on and on about this. i used the DOHC SE gauges and i didn't know anything about it and didn't care but i was curious to c if it actually did work properly without recalibratin' anything and it worked out fine.
Old 07-05-2005 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by GRNMAXDMON
i agree but i didn't know u were usin' the SOHC SE gauges so thats y we were goin' on and on about this. i used the DOHC SE gauges and i didn't know anything about it and didn't care but i was curious to c if it actually did work properly without recalibratin' anything and it worked out fine.
I think that's what it was too because I counldn't find any dohc se's in the u-pull it yard. All gxe's and sohc se's. But I go there every week so maybe i will find a Dohc se to get parts from
Old 07-05-2005 | 11:08 AM
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Im thinking about buyign a se cluster off ebay to put into my 92 gxe how can i tell if its from a sohc or dohc?
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easiest way: speedometer goes to 145 on DOHC 125 on SOHC
Old 07-05-2005 | 11:33 AM
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and the dohc will just swap with the one i have no w/o having to mod it?
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and the dohc will just swap with the one i have no w/o having to mod it?
youll have to hit 145 and at the same time turn your lights on for it to be calibrated correctly.







jk read this whole thread for your answer.
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and the dohc will just swap with the one i have no w/o having to mod it?
no need to modify the SE DOHC cluster period. its plug and play. thats what i did to mine nearly 3 yrs. ago.
Old 07-23-2005 | 10:48 PM
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I did aa swap last week and have been having problems with the spedo acting up sometimes it quits working and then will start up again its from a 91 se and i have a 93 gxe lil help? I swaped out the gauges not just the cluster if i put the og spedo back in it works fine
Old 07-23-2005 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Burn MF Burn
I did aa swap last week and have been having problems with the spedo acting up sometimes it quits working and then will start up again its from a 91 se and i have a 93 gxe lil help? I swaped out the gauges not just the cluster if i put the og spedo back in it works fine
If you pulled it from a junkyard, it might have been acting up in the first place.
Old 07-23-2005 | 11:38 PM
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I never knew there was no calibration required for the VE-VG swap...at the time, I just went with a 125SE cluster to be safe. (Which I regret now)

Oh, and a VG-SE steering wheel too...those early GXE wheels look like shee-it.
Old 07-24-2005 | 03:26 AM
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I wish I could do this mod but there was no GXE's sold in europe to my knowledge... and inspection would never allow a change from KPH to MPH unless it's an imported car
Old 07-24-2005 | 06:06 AM
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I wish I could do this mod but there was no GXE's sold in europe to my knowledge... and inspection would never allow a change from KPH to MPH unless it's an imported car
the gauge's are still marked KPH, just in little letters.
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Originally Posted by floods943
If you pulled it from a junkyard, it might have been acting up in the first place.

thought of that but it only had 155K on it and the car was'nt crashed just had a cracked head.
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some guage clusters can just go whenever........might be a bad one. that is my guess... maybe it is just a bad solder joint in the rear of the cluster
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I'll pull it back out and check. but ive been pretty through about the whole then so far there was some kind out write up on this that i saw like 2 years ago anyone seen it? I think this guy did a face swap?


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