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Old 07-18-2005 | 03:06 PM
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well after the long *** drive to seattle to have a nw meet by myself... i noticed my passenger side tire looked like it came off a wheelbarrow lol bald as hell i just picked up a set of fuzion's 215 45 17's and got it aligned 700 bucks but its like a new car again the drive back the handling felt wierd but oh well.... i would recomend theese tires
Old 07-18-2005 | 03:54 PM
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Those tires shouldn't have cost you more than $400 mounted.
Old 07-18-2005 | 04:05 PM
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I just got those same exact tires (215/45/17), mine are Fuzion HRi, but I love them so much. Mine cost about $100/tire. It does seem you paid a fair amount more than retail for those tires.
Old 07-18-2005 | 04:06 PM
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700????????? holy shit

i paid 550 for my kuhmo 18s, i think you got ripped off dude.
Old 07-18-2005 | 04:22 PM
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they are the zhr's i think
Old 07-18-2005 | 04:23 PM
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buy 3
get one free my bad 150 a piece for 3 was 450 + alignment and labor :/ 575.00 i forgot about oil change and tranny flush to ...
Old 07-18-2005 | 06:16 PM
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umm, you know your speedo ain't gonna read right no mo'
Old 07-19-2005 | 09:35 AM
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why do you say that?
Old 07-19-2005 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by livnlfe2damax89
why do you say that?

235/45/17s make the overall diameter closest to stock. 215s are too narrow, the wheel is too small, so the speedo will be off.
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because stock tire size = 25.5 your tire = 24.6
your speedo will be reading faster than you're actually going
Old 07-19-2005 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
because stock tire size = 25.5 your tire = 24.6
your speedo will be reading faster than you're actually going
Well thats a good thing, its a lot better than reading slower than your going.
Old 07-19-2005 | 10:58 AM
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Well thats a good thing, its a lot better than reading slower than your going.
hhehe

well, sorry to hear about the meet man, hopefully the trip wasn't a complete waste..
Old 07-19-2005 | 12:01 PM
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That seems like alot of $ to spend on some tires that are the wrong size. Sorry you drove all that way and no one was there.
Old 07-19-2005 | 12:43 PM
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The tires arent the wrong size 215/45/17 is what I had to go with because anything larger (such as a 225 or 235) would rub in the front.
Old 07-19-2005 | 12:48 PM
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Yes they are the wrong size. Just because you HAD to run a tire that thin in order to make them fit doesn't mean they aren't the wrong size to match the original 205-65-15 diameter tires. Or you should have run a 215-50-17


Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile Difference
205/65-15 5.2in 12.7in 25.5in 80.1in 791 0.0%
215/45-17 3.8in 12.3in 24.6in 77.3in 819 -3.4%
215/50-17 4.2in 12.7in 25.5in 80.0in 792 -0.1%

You probably are running some aftermarkets made for some other car and has like 44-45mm offset.

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The tires arent the wrong size 215/45/17 is what I had to go with because anything larger (such as a 225 or 235) would rub in the front.
Old 07-19-2005 | 12:53 PM
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i know there was a post at some point about tire specs and moving up to a bigger tire set-up? Does anybody have the thread ? I wanted to move up to a 18 inch rim but what tire size will work for me but wont rub the front strut assembly or the rear strut assembly? I know the turn radius may be a little shorter due to the bigger tire & rim? Let me know?
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I have no idea where you could find information about Wheels and Tires

There's no way one could tell you if you could upgrade without more information about the wheel specifications. Clearly it's possible. I've un 245-45-17s. Why could I run these and you gentleman cannot? That is the question. And it's clear that 18" wheels are possible. I'm running these now also. Again how that's possible is what you two need to learn about.
Old 07-19-2005 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I have no idea where you could find information about Wheels and Tires

There's no way one could tell you if you could upgrade without more information about the wheel specifications. Clearly it's possible. I've un 245-45-17s. Why could I run these and you gentleman cannot? That is the question. And it's clear that 18" wheels are possible. I'm running these now also. Again how that's possible is what you two need to learn about.



Jeff knows his **** about tires and wheels, although finding out information really isn't that hard.

First, there is a section ON THIS FORUM dedicated solely to Maxima tires and wheels. You can find information on tire size (a tire size calculator), wheel offset (also, a wheel offset calculator) and lots of other things. There are a lot of reviews on tires, too, to help compare brands you are thinking of.

Second, you have a phone. Information at a tire place is free. If you call and the guy sounds like a dolt, call another place until you can find someone to answer your questions.

Third, if you guys are willing to pay hundreds of $$$ on wheels and tires, maybe donating $20 to this site and using the search feature would go a long way.
Old 07-19-2005 | 01:24 PM
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I had 3 different tire sizes brought out to my car in the parking lot and sized up. The ONLY one that fit it without further modification was the 215/45/17, thats it. And 18s look goofy on a 3rd gen anyways in my opinion. And I went to 3 different tire places and they all told me 215/45/17 was the right fit for my car, no one ever mentioned a 215/50/17.

My new tires fit, look great, and ride smooth. Even if they are remotely off I find no reason to get worked up.
Old 07-19-2005 | 01:29 PM
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You could have got a 215-50-17. It's no wider than a 215-45.

It's okay that you think 18s look goofy on a 3gen. But this is someone that thinks 215-45-17s look okay

The size is NOT the end of the world. But it's pretty far off at 3+%. And just a waste of $ considering you could have purchased 215-50s just as easily.

I don't quite understand how a tire place could in good faith reccommend a tire that's 3%+ off the oem size. Unless they just wanted to sell you tires that day (that they just happened to have in stock)

Don't you run the Fuzion HRis? Funny. They DO come in the 215-50-17 size I recommended.


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I had 3 different tire sizes brought out to my car in the parking lot and sized up. The ONLY one that fit it without further modification was the 215/45/17, thats it. And 18s look goofy on a 3rd gen anyways in my opinion. And I went to 3 different tire places and they all told me 215/45/17 was the right fit for my car, no one ever mentioned a 215/50/17.

My new tires fit, look great, and ride smooth. Even if they are remotely off I find no reason to get worked up.
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i paid 450 for bridgestones mounted and balenced 215 50r 15
Old 07-19-2005 | 01:36 PM
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Too small

Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile Difference
205/65-15 5.2in 12.7in 25.5in 80.1in 791 0.0%
215/50-15 4.2in 11.7in 23.5in 73.7in 860 -8.0%


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i paid 450 for bridgestones mounted and balenced 215 50r 15
Old 07-19-2005 | 02:05 PM
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Jeff you really think people will ever listen to us when we give them info on tire sizing?
I don't.
though there have been members who actually took enough interest in it that they learned the correct info.
thankfully I don't sell tires @ poop boyz anymore
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I have to agree. ESPECIALLY when the guy who actually WORKS at Discount Tire got the sizing wrong. That about eliminated all faith I had.

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Jeff you really think people will ever listen to us when we give them info on tire sizing?
I don't.
though there have been members who actually took enough interest in it that they learned the correct info.
thankfully I don't sell tires @ poop boyz anymore
Old 07-19-2005 | 02:25 PM
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this is so sad. u said they took 3 sets of tires out to the car to see if they fit....that just doesnt make sense. well it makes sense that they dont have any sense. this goes right along with the retard boy at discount tire i had. before he even tried mounting my tires he said they would rub just by looking at my rims.....

too many, and i mean tooo many people who put tires on daily think they know everything about tires. do some research, or hell just ask jeff and youll have yourself correct tires.
Old 07-19-2005 | 05:23 PM
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Ok, I believe you guys more than some dude working at a tire place, but what is the disadvantage of having a 215/45 over a 215/50? I don't think it looks small at all, but is there any safety hazard?
Old 07-19-2005 | 05:32 PM
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No there is no saftey issue, but your speedometer will always be off some... when i had my maxima i ran 235/45/17's and the speed never seemed too far off.
Old 07-19-2005 | 05:37 PM
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215 45 17's are the size i have allways ran. all of the radar trailers have said the exact same speed as the speedo. i have had other friends pace me as well, same same
Old 07-19-2005 | 06:04 PM
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So, just to clear things up, the whole point of this discussion was not that there was an important safety issue but only because the speedometer may be a few MPH off? (I'm not trying to sound sarcastic, I just want to clear this up so I dont have to be worried that I might need to return the tires)

P.S. I'm not the guy who paid $700 for them, I got a relatively good deal. So I dont feel I wasted my money.
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Over time, it will also add additional miles to your odometer. It's just better overall to get the right size tires.

You might as well get the more sidewall height, too. That might be the difference in bending a rim.
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Over time, it will also add additional miles to your odometer. It's just better overall to get the right size tires.

You might as well get the more sidewall height, too. That might be the difference in bending a rim.
whatever you do, do not listen to this guy
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whatever you do, do not listen to this guy

I knew exactly what the size of the tires were that were on there. I have just been too poor to buy new ones.

For those of you who haven't seen it, I bought my rims with tires that were too small (-6.7 percent for you Jeff). I ran over two metal plates on a rainy, windy night this past fall (didn't see them until it was too late) and screwed up two rims. Here is the worst one:

Old 07-19-2005 | 07:36 PM
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whatever you do, do not listen to this guy
Are you being serious or just joking around?

Also people, we're just talking about a 45 profile rating compared to a 50, its not THAT big of a difference. If it were much larger of a difference then I would be worried, but since its barely noticable, its not worth all of the commotion.
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Originally Posted by Red92MaxSE
I knew exactly what the size of the tires were that were on there. I have just been too poor to buy new ones.

For those of you who haven't seen it, I bought my rims with tires that were too small (-7.6 percent for you Jeff). I ran over two metal plates on a rainy, windy night this past fall (didn't see them until it was too late) and screwed up two rims. Here is the worst one:
I understand that you accidently bent your rim, but that is the chance all of us must take when riding on low profile tires, I don't think if you had a 50 profile rating vs 45 it would have made that much of a difference.
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Are you being serious or just joking around?

Also people, we're just talking about a 45 profile rating compared to a 50, its not THAT big of a difference. If it were much larger of a difference then I would be worried, but since its barely noticable, its not worth all of the commotion.

He is just messing around...

Yeah, i never saw a reason to ditch my 45's for something else.
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Originally Posted by Red92MaxSE
I knew exactly what the size of the tires were that were on there. I have just been too poor to buy new ones.
I was just playing

it seems like alot of n00bs are ignoring those of us who know what we are talking about
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Originally Posted by MrGone
I was just playing

it seems like alot of n00bs are ignoring those of us who know what we are talking about
Listen man, just because I have 50 some odd posts and just joined this month doesn't make me an idoit when it comes to cars. I had purchased my tires before I even joined this forum, and I just happened to stumble upon this thread and got jumbled up into it. I don't mean to hit on you for your comment cause I'm not, I'm just saying that don't associate a person's post count, or join date with their knowledge of automobiles. I hadn't even heard of this forum a couple months ago but I got here by searching for something else.
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Hes not saying you in general, no need to get all huffy. Hes just saying people that just joing think they know better when they dont, and when good advice is given they ignore it...

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I understand that you accidently bent your rim, but that is the chance all of us must take when riding on low profile tires, I don't think if you had a 50 profile rating vs 45 it would have made that much of a difference.
Nah, but it might have. You don't know for sure. I had 40 series on there. Really, it was totally my fault for driving too fast in the rain, at night and it was windy, so it was hard to see because of all the crap blowing around. When I first did it, I didn't think anything got hurt because the outside of the rims are still perfect.

Either way, I am saying that you might as well put everything into your favor -- correct speedometer, correct odometer, correct gearing (smaller tires change gearing, too) and a little bit more sidewall.
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Nah, but it might have. You don't know for sure. I had 40 series on there. Really, it was totally my fault for driving too fast in the rain, at night and it was windy, so it was hard to see because of all the crap blowing around. When I first did it, I didn't think anything got hurt because the outside of the rims are still perfect.

Either way, I am saying that you might as well put everything into your favor -- correct speedometer, correct odometer, correct gearing (smaller tires change gearing, too) and a little bit more sidewall.
Yeah I know what you're saying but quite frankly I can't do anything about the tires I have now, I've put a good amount of riding on them already (Can't return them). I don't even feel its a big enough deal to worry about it. I'm gonna do a speed test tomorrow with a freind to see if there is any speedometer error.



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