Putting a VG into a VE...a few questions
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Originally Posted by Joe Fontinyatz
I think if you drove one, which I doubt you have.. You wouldn't be saying that. No offense. Of course on the other hand......... If I drove a VG 5spd, I may not be talkin so much crap
But from my experiences with a VG Auto, Im not all that satisfied. I have gotten some good victories in it though.
But from my experiences with a VG Auto, Im not all that satisfied. I have gotten some good victories in it though.
) Very impressive over the damn VG auto, oh and my ****ty 2.2L 4 banger s10, also 5 speed.I cant wait to drop the tranny and 5 speed related parts and put them into my 2ed max, as it runs very smooth and sounds great. I cant wait to drive that, now I know a ve 5 speed would be even better, but for around town, you want a VG, as its POWER NOW! A VE is a good higher speed/highway car and the VG is a killer around town car. And better for Forced induction, and I plan on taking advantage of that.
Any way thats my take. Im itching to drive a manual V6 around after rolling around in my s10 for 3 months now
~Alex
Originally Posted by Joe Fontinyatz
I think if you drove one, which I doubt you have.. You wouldn't be saying that. No offense. Of course on the other hand......... If I drove a VG 5spd, I may not be talkin so much crap
But from my experiences with a VG Auto, Im not all that satisfied. I have gotten some good victories in it though.
So in the end all I can say is I recommend getting a VE 5spd to anyone who wants the ultimate 3rd gen experience and the "coolest" Maxima around.
Even if there is a reliablility difference between the two, I can assure you it's quite small, when looking at what the VE can do. And it's well worth it.
But from my experiences with a VG Auto, Im not all that satisfied. I have gotten some good victories in it though.So in the end all I can say is I recommend getting a VE 5spd to anyone who wants the ultimate 3rd gen experience and the "coolest" Maxima around.
Even if there is a reliablility difference between the two, I can assure you it's quite small, when looking at what the VE can do. And it's well worth it.i agree that the VE 3rd gen is probably the coolest of all of the incarnations of the maxima yet seen. had i more space around here, i'd get one for good measure, to round out my collection. maybe someday i'll have one for the heck of it.
but for now, i daily drive the VG. and i'll live vicariously through the guys here with them.
Originally Posted by maximutt
Can that really be done?
Originally Posted by bonzelite
i have not driven a VE. that is correct. i have been a passenger in one. and it was fine. but i was not compelled to buy another 3rd gen with the VE. instead, i bought a Galant VR-4. and it's a biach to work on, probably ten orders of magnitude more inconvenient than a VE. but the payoff is the insane speed.
i agree that the VE 3rd gen is probably the coolest of all of the incarnations of the maxima yet seen. had i more space around here, i'd get one for good measure, to round out my collection. maybe someday i'll have one for the heck of it.
but for now, i daily drive the VG. and i'll live vicariously through the guys here with them.
i agree that the VE 3rd gen is probably the coolest of all of the incarnations of the maxima yet seen. had i more space around here, i'd get one for good measure, to round out my collection. maybe someday i'll have one for the heck of it.
but for now, i daily drive the VG. and i'll live vicariously through the guys here with them.
still great all around cars and extremely fun daily drivers. But when you start competing it really is just not worth it
. I still had a great time playing around with mine though. Very fun and functional car, and absolutely great for it's time.My only gripe is why insurance on them is so high
[QUOTE=Alex_V I cant wait to drive that, now I know a ve 5 speed would be even better, but for around town, you want a VG, as its POWER NOW! A VE is a good higher speed/highway car and the VG is a killer around town car. And better for Forced induction, and I plan on taking advantage of that.
~Alex[/QUOTE]
that is true. the VG has more low-end torque, right off the line, than the VE. in a VG, you could probably overtake a VE for a few seconds, but it would then quickly catch up and win.
~Alex[/QUOTE]
that is true. the VG has more low-end torque, right off the line, than the VE. in a VG, you could probably overtake a VE for a few seconds, but it would then quickly catch up and win.
Originally Posted by bonzelite
that is true. the VG has more low-end torque, right off the line, than the VE. in a VG, you could probably overtake a VE for a few seconds, but it would then quickly catch up and win.
I dont understand where you guys get the whole VG lowend. I've driven both, feel exactly the same until about 3000-3500 where the VE just takes off.
Originally Posted by maximutt
I'm no friggin mechanic. Geez. Finally get to 15 posts......
people here tend to not like it when someone has not done their homework, or has neglected to have used the "search" function. and people here with less than 3000 posts are considered "noobs."
Originally Posted by bonzelite
it's okay. hang around long enough and you'll get accustomed to the climate. maybe.
people here tend to not like it when someone has not done their homework, or has neglected to have used the "search" function. and people here with less than 3000 posts are considered "noobs."
people here tend to not like it when someone has not done their homework, or has neglected to have used the "search" function. and people here with less than 3000 posts are considered "noobs."

n00b
Originally Posted by bonzelite
it's okay. hang around long enough and you'll get accustomed to the climate. maybe.
people here tend to not like it when someone has not done their homework, or has neglected to have used the "search" function. and people here with less than 3000 posts are considered "noobs."
people here tend to not like it when someone has not done their homework, or has neglected to have used the "search" function. and people here with less than 3000 posts are considered "noobs."
Originally Posted by MrGone
antonthegrey and I did a few stoplight runs. dead even from a stop until he hit 5000rpm. From then on I just darted ahead. shift to second, I was even higher in my powerband, kept on pulling.
I dont understand where you guys get the whole VG lowend. I've driven both, feel exactly the same until about 3000-3500 where the VE just takes off.
I dont understand where you guys get the whole VG lowend. I've driven both, feel exactly the same until about 3000-3500 where the VE just takes off.
others swear that they felt the VG pull off the line stronger, then die quickly.
out of curioisity, did they ever put a VE30DET or DETT in the Fairlady Z? or was it just the VG30DET? and DETT? (z31, z32).
and if they did not ever use a factory turbo VE, why not?
Originally Posted by bonzelite
cool.
others swear that they felt the VG pull off the line stronger, then die quickly.
out of curioisity, did they ever put a VE30DET or DETT in the Fairlady Z? or was it just the VG30DET? and DETT? (z31, z32).
and if they did not ever use a factory turbo VE, why not?
others swear that they felt the VG pull off the line stronger, then die quickly.
out of curioisity, did they ever put a VE30DET or DETT in the Fairlady Z? or was it just the VG30DET? and DETT? (z31, z32).
and if they did not ever use a factory turbo VE, why not?

but then again I've always kept mine in tip top shape
we all know the most mac daddy 3rd gen will be a RWD VE 5spd and i bet it will happen eventually since people seem to be converting everyhting else (ive seen just about every honda some foci altimas corollas and a few 80s dodge cars but im sure there are many others)
Originally Posted by subs1000w
we all know the most mac daddy 3rd gen will be a RWD VE 5spd and i bet it will happen eventually since people seem to be converting everyhting else (ive seen just about every honda some foci altimas corollas and a few 80s dodge cars but im sure there are many others)
so this begs the question, was a RWD version of the VE engine/tranny ever configured? if not, what tranny would mate to it? i've never considered this one before. a fantasy RWD VG 3rd gen is a no-brainer. you'd just use the RWD z31 drivetrain.
so let me think this through: you'd use again, in part, the RWD 300zx setup --you'd use the VG RWD tranny mated to the VE i'd guess. if a VG FWD block can accept both a VG and VE tranny, and a RWD VG block must be used to turbo the VG in the 3rd gen, wouldn't logic follow, then, that a FWD configured VE block would mate to a RWD z31 or z32 VG tranny?
I was going to do that exact swap, my 1993 SE runs like a pile of crap. i do love the 1990 SE very much, and until i got my 1992 SE running, i had lost faith in the VE. but after that 1992 ran, it ran like a bat out of hell. very sweet indeed. i have decided to just drop off the 1993 into a shop and set the mechanic loose on it.
Thanks Guys!
All this thread has done has spark my intrest in seeing how much power I can get out of my VG! Unfortunatly it is an auto, but after a pretty harsh car accideant last Nov. I have no choice but to drive an auto now. So I'll deal with it. I'd rather try to get what I can out of this engine, then give up on it and try to buy a VE. But I'm also stubborn as hell, So Why not. What's the worst that could happen? I dump some money into it, don't like it and have some punk kid pay his savings account on it? Doesn't hurt my feelings! I can't complain about the reliabilty of my VG as it's at the 287000 kms mark and still going strong!
Wish me luck guys! lol
All this thread has done has spark my intrest in seeing how much power I can get out of my VG! Unfortunatly it is an auto, but after a pretty harsh car accideant last Nov. I have no choice but to drive an auto now. So I'll deal with it. I'd rather try to get what I can out of this engine, then give up on it and try to buy a VE. But I'm also stubborn as hell, So Why not. What's the worst that could happen? I dump some money into it, don't like it and have some punk kid pay his savings account on it? Doesn't hurt my feelings! I can't complain about the reliabilty of my VG as it's at the 287000 kms mark and still going strong!
Wish me luck guys! lol
Originally Posted by Pervis Anathema
Umm, no. I have been ~4.5 years and I have ~1500 posts. I assure you, I am no noob.
Originally Posted by bonzelite
actually, i was wrong. i should have come to my senses. there are those among us on this forum who consider those with less than 5000 posts to be noobs. i was being more forgiving. 

quiet n00bs
no 10k no care
IB Jeffy and 20k
seriously though, if VG's are feeling stronger than your VE's then you need to drop some money into the VE because something is wrong.
no 10k no care

IB Jeffy and 20k
seriously though, if VG's are feeling stronger than your VE's then you need to drop some money into the VE because something is wrong.
i think shawn, it ain't 'bout dat. its 'bout dis guys VG lovin to drop it in a VE car. weird. but dats what he want.
so here we go. and it led to all kind of fantasy swap like RWD z32 type setups in a maxima, tranny combinations with blocks, you name it.
i think a lot of peeps here gone defected to turbomaxima.com forums. i seen matt, jeff, and chris on there. its just the heL wit noobs here.
so here we go. and it led to all kind of fantasy swap like RWD z32 type setups in a maxima, tranny combinations with blocks, you name it.
i think a lot of peeps here gone defected to turbomaxima.com forums. i seen matt, jeff, and chris on there. its just the heL wit noobs here.
Originally Posted by bonzelite
i think shawn, it ain't 'bout dat. its 'bout dis guys VG lovin to drop it in a VE car. weird. but dats what he want.
so here we go. and it led to all kind of fantasy swap like RWD z32 type setups in a maxima, tranny combinations with blocks, you name it.
i think a lot of peeps here gone defected to turbomaxima.com forums. i seen matt, jeff, and chris on there. its just the heL wit noobs here.
so here we go. and it led to all kind of fantasy swap like RWD z32 type setups in a maxima, tranny combinations with blocks, you name it.
i think a lot of peeps here gone defected to turbomaxima.com forums. i seen matt, jeff, and chris on there. its just the heL wit noobs here.
Originally Posted by maximutt
asking if you can drop a VQ in a VG is such an asinine question. A simple no would suffice.
Originally Posted by Pervis Anathema
And that no would make you ignorant. A VQ swap has been done successfully.
Originally Posted by maximutt
Well, not all of us are all almighty. I suppose the question should have been "Excuse my ignorance because I am a noob and am not worthy of even being in the presence of those on the board but can a VQ really be dropped in a VG? When responding to my question keep in mind that I already know I am an ingnorant fool for asking but I'd rather just have you answer my question than having to become ASE Certified so I can find out."
Originally Posted by Pervis Anathema
Or you could just read the internets and save your worthless, putrid sarcasm for someone who cares. All your babbling just make you look young and stupid. Oh wait, nevermind,
Originally Posted by Pervis Anathema
And that no would make you ignorant. A VQ swap has been done successfully.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=315108
Anybody ever get proof of it's existance?
Originally Posted by maximutt
Remember, I already know I'm stupid. That's why I asked a stupid question. What I didn't know is that it is not acceptable on maxima.org to not know everything about maximas. Stupid me, I've owned several maximas since my first one in 97 and I figured I was an enthusiast. I didn't know that enthusiast meant possessed fanatic who has an endless amount of time to surf the internet and read Chiltons to become an all-knowing demi-god on maximas. That's not me so I suppose I don't belong here. I'm out.
Look kido, this isn't working out for you. Just stop and try a different tactic.
Originally Posted by Joe Fontinyatz
Are you reffering to this "VQ swap"?
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=315108
Anybody ever get proof of it's existance?
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=315108
Anybody ever get proof of it's existance?


Originally Posted by todamax
AFAIK, that is all the proof we have ever seen. No one was able to make contact and get an real details, IIRC...
Originally Posted by maximutt
Wow. Taking yourselves a little seriously around here. What's wrong with asking some questions or having a little fun. Who really cares if the guy wants to drop a VG in his car. If that's what he wants why not help him out with some knowledge however stupid you think it may be. And sorry if asking if you can drop a VQ in a VG is such an asinine question. A simple no would suffice.
a good rule of thumb is to have an ace in the hole to trump the resident expert whos on a high horse. kill them with kindness.
Originally Posted by Pervis Anathema
What more proof do you need? Oh wait, you want this guy to spell it out for and do the work for you?
How do you know he didn't just place it in there,
stick a few hoses around it and have a
few bricks holding it up from the bottom?
I wouldn't ask until skimming through the whole thread.
And while skimming, I noticed nobody
made any contact with the guy
nor any proof was ever given that it actually runs.
Thats why I asked. There were speculations of
it being photoshopped as well, which I don't
really believe, but regardless,
to my knowledge it hasn't been
seen by any org member except a
nice individual coming on saying it was
his and hes selling it. If you wanna call
that proof, sure why not. But that just ain't cutting it for me.
yeah. i remember that whole scandal. i think it was about 2 years ago. the photos were blurred, like you'd see in a "bigfoot sighting." and it was a GXE. and the guy never followed up on additional pics. i think it was a put-on. b.s. never heard about since.



