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Old 09-21-2005, 11:38 AM
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Coolant flush Q.

Ok, so now I need to do a coolant flush. I'm taking the DIY approach. I know the radiator capacity is about 4 and the system capacity is 8 or 9. My question is: when you drain the radiator, does that other 4 gallons remain in the system and, if so, where is the drain plug on the VG engine block?
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Old 09-21-2005, 04:32 PM
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the drain plug is beside the altenator....but I simply parked car on hill facing down to drain and facing up to fill...39degrees be sure to remove the bleeder screw on the intake when you fill. Good Luck
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most people dont mess with the engine block drain. its hard as hell to reach and can be twice as hard to remove.
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Old 09-21-2005, 06:29 PM
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Step 1. Take 1 six pack of beverage of choice.
Step 2. Loosen draincock, drain fluid from Rad.
Step 3. Tighten draincock.
Step 4. Fill Rad with DISTILLED WATER.
Step 5. Start car, run to operating temp.
Repeat steps 2-5 till Fluid runs clear.
I know this takes some time but it also cleans out the system, not just drains out the old fluid. If you just change the fliud old for new you risk the chance of leaving crud in the system.

Oh and if you run out of Step 1, repeat as necessary
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Originally Posted by CyMax
Step 1. Take 1 six pack of beverage of choice.
Step 2. Loosen draincock, drain fluid from Rad.
Step 3. Tighten draincock.
Step 4. Fill Rad with DISTILLED WATER.
Step 5. Start car, run to operating temp.
Repeat steps 2-5 till Fluid runs clear.
I know this takes some time but it also cleans out the system, not just drains out the old fluid. If you just change the fliud old for new you risk the chance of leaving crud in the system.

Oh and if you run out of Step 1, repeat as necessary
I didn't see a mention of wat to do with the 6pac anywhere
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
I didn't see a mention of wat to do with the 6pac anywhere
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But in order to achieve a 50/50 mix when I do the final fill, do I need to add 2 gallons (50/50) mix in radiator or 4 gallons (50/50) mix in whole system? In other words, when I drain the radiator, are there 4 gallons of water or fluid or whatever still trapped in the cooling system? Also,

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the drain plug is beside the altenator....but I simply parked car on hill facing down to drain and facing up to fill...39degrees be sure to remove the bleeder screw on the intake when you fill. Good Luck
I would like to apologize to Governor if I offended him in a previous (ironically, about cooling) thread. Must have been having a bad day. Sorry.
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you dont need to use distilled water for the flush hell i run 100% regular tap water in both my vehicles right now

remove radiator cap
remove upper radiator hose
turn on garden hose and put in radiator
start car and let run for a while with heat on
let run untill the color of fluid pumped out of upper hose is clean (this may take awhile)
turn off car
drain system and add 50/50
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Originally Posted by subs1000w
you dont need to use distilled water for the flush hell i run 100% regular tap water in both my vehicles right now

remove radiator cap
remove upper radiator hose
turn on garden hose and put in radiator
start car and let run for a while with heat on
let run untill the color of fluid pumped out of upper hose is clean (this may take awhile)
turn off car
drain system and add 50/50



I have ran tap water in my 50/50 mix for 5 yrs.....And my rad looks like new inside....0% corrision present.....
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Old 09-22-2005, 12:54 AM
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Distilled water is better. Never used though... And who would ever believe a stealer$hip would use distilled water ??? Even if they do change coolant and charge for it (I suspect even this), why on earth they would use distilled? That would cut too deep into revenue...

Help for the cabin core: my next project is to fabricate a grounding for the radiator, to minimize the minuscle electro chemical corrosion (where distilled water also is a positive factor).
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That is good to know, but can anyone answer my question posted above?
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Originally Posted by maxitech
That is good to know, but can anyone answer my question posted above?
Based on this: "I need to do a coolant flush", --->empty u radiator & engine, one of the simplest works... then fillup with cool Ant -mixture u want/need. The suggested 50/50 is ok.

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Originally Posted by subs1000w
you dont need to use distilled water for the flush hell i run 100% regular tap water in both my vehicles right now

remove radiator cap
remove upper radiator hose
turn on garden hose and put in radiator
start car and let run for a while with heat on
let run untill the color of fluid pumped out of upper hose is clean (this may take awhile)
turn off car
drain system and add 50/50
WELCOME to crud growing in your engine as we speak! Distilled is cheap and there are no elements no other such crap in it. Worth the piece of mind to know what I'm putting in my engine.
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Can somebody PLEASE tell me if there will still be 4 gallons of water in the cooling system after the flush is complete and the radiator is drained? I am doing it tomorrow early on and I live in a climate where a 50/50 mix is absolutely necessary. In other words, if I add 2 gallons of coolant and 2 gallons of water to the RADIATOR, do I have a 50/50 mix in the cooling system, or is that going to be diluted by another 4 gallons of water remaining in the system, but outside the radiator?
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Originally Posted by maxitech
Can somebody PLEASE tell me if there will still be 4 gallons of water in the cooling system after the flush is complete and the radiator is drained? I am doing it tomorrow early on and I live in a climate where a 50/50 mix is absolutely necessary. In other words, if I add 2 gallons of coolant and 2 gallons of water to the RADIATOR, do I have a 50/50 mix in the cooling system, or is that going to be diluted by another 4 gallons of water remaining in the system, but outside the radiator?
As per FSM 11 and 1/4 qts, including res. 10.6 without.
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Old 09-23-2005, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by maxitech
Can somebody PLEASE tell me if there will still be ...
1. u have two (2) barrells full
2. U go and drain one.
Q.: How many full barrels u have got?
A.: 2-1=1

...how to get that qty info?
-A. Read. = READ. Yes. Really read links given. Then come and tell us. Typically FSM contains all relevant info, everythin above it, u must find and measure... If it isnt there, maybe taking a plug out is not worth a chapter in a manual?
-B. Drain the second barrel =engine, measure. Then come and tell us.

Dont drain, dont read --->worry, write, calculate, guess...
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Old 09-23-2005, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by maxitech
I would like to apologize to Governor if I offended him in a previous (ironically, about cooling) thread. Must have been having a bad day. Sorry.
No apology needed....I dont get offended easily but I do remember your "Why dont you donate $20 and search for your answer"

I do not have the answer for you but if you do as I said earlier and add a 50/50 mix you will be fine.
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Old 09-23-2005, 10:48 PM
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if you want to make sure you have a perfect 50/50 mix, get one of those coolant testing thing-a-magigs that they sell at the auto stores right next to the coolant. I forget the exact name, but it tells you the effectiveness of your mix.

and yes, you replaced all the coolant in the radiator and engine block with water, so now you have an engine full of water and an empty radiator. if you want to ensure you only have distilled water and coolant in your cooling system, then you need to flush with distilled water - about 50 cents a gallon at walmart, or just go to one of those water vending machines outside of grocerey stores - about 25 cents a gallon

also, you can buy a bottle of the prestone radiator flush solution that's supposed to help clean out the system better than just running water by itself. not sure it's effectiveness, but I've used it once.

have fun, it's about 20 minutes of work and an hour of waiting around - that drain **** is really tiny
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