kcidmil

I have 2 subjects that I'm at fork for. And I REQUEST that there are only decent, positive opinions. NO "IT'S STUPID" suggestions please.

After conversing with therealgoon9 for about a hour so, I have decided on the hoodscoop design I will be doing. But I'm at a loss on which way might be better to install it. I need to know that way I know how big to make the hole, and hoodscoop.

A) Molding it onto the hood, and building a flat surfact underneath to have the air box seal to.

B) Create a "sealed" airbox, and cutting a hole in the hood for it to fit through. AKA Shaker hood

Also along the lines, I brought up the idea of adding in the vacuum controlled butterfly valves in the opening of the hood scoop. But therealgoon9 thought it would seem to muscle car wannabe. so...

C) Butterfly valves

D) No butterfly valves.

I'm getting the materials to make the hood scoop at the beginning of the year. I'm just sitting down now to work it into my budget. I'll be getting a newer hood next year when I go down to visit my parents. So I have my old one to practice on

Thanks everyone

Greeny

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A'ha!!! so now the truth is out... j/k....

kcidmil

This has been on my list, it was actually going to be towards the end (performance first, visual last) But after looking at my car, it needs a paint job bad. So it was decided that the paint job and body kit will be going on from the 2006 taxes (2 years). Well I want to get the hood done before it gets painted, so a step up in plans is needed.

Cliff Clavin

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Not that I like the idea of a hood scoop on a Maxima, but it I were to do one, I would do something on top of the hood, along the lines of a z31 hood scoop.

kcidmil

Well I'm along the lines of the old 300zx, (80s). Having a small hoodscoop on the drivers side, building a airbox right behind the battery. The air box will only sit about 3-4" high.

Wiking

None. Instead spend u money in new upper intake.

Well, as u dont: A&D

But have fun!

mattcomet82

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this is a project i have been thinking about as well. there really is a division on the boards about tastefullness though. the z31 scoop is minimal, and if it was installed correctly could even look attractive on a max. but like you said, performance first/visual last. i think this would be a great project to take on, and i would love to see the end reults. keep us posted and try to take lots of pics!!

fastflyingasian

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i did the hood scoop on my max. like you said build the airbox behind the battery and mold the scoop to hood. just sticking one on sux. leave that to all the "too cool" people that have more horsepower in their decals instead of their motors. i had the stillen WAI then i cut a big hole in the hood on the drivers side over the filter. depending on the design of your air box you wont have to worry about water when it rains.(assuming that the scoop is facing forward) i had a drain at the bottom of the airbox and i cut the hood a half an inch short of the airbox so any water that travels up the hood into the scoop just drains. regaurdless of what people say about a ram setup the cold air from the scoop is MUCH better than the air from under the hood. that and i also noticed i had to clean my filter much less too since the filter isnt sucking up all the dust and dirt from under the hood.

ill see if i can find any pics. about 2 weeks ago i dumped the scoop for a 4" cowl hood that i have been working since then. ill be moving the intake to the rear of the cowl so no scoop needed.

kcidmil

Well I've narrowed down to the design opening I want. I was thinking of getting a plain old square design, but I found a opening I like even better.



It's a gauge pod from NIN autosports. I think I'll order it and trim it down, then rebuild with fiberglass to the deminsions I want. This will save a major headache.

Wiking

I bet this is so. The turbulentic airflow which keeps engine compartment temps parallel to ambient temp, distributes wheel/road dirt all over/under, clogging underhood filter. Especially open cone.

My guess is that any measurable scoop hp gains start (if) from 100mph...

The round shape NIN will surely fit...

Would it be this size?

kcidmil

Smaller actually

internetautomar

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no butterfly, hood sealing to stock filter

tripleGmax

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Hey Ben, i like this idea it doesnt stick out like a sore thumb and keeps the hood flowing. granted its not a maxima, but you get the idea.

Josh

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i think someone with a 2nd gen pulled one off an old z (i believe) and did what you are describing. i'd check around i think he has a pic in his sig.

Josh

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or you could say screw the hoodscoop and try something like this...


j/k

MrGone

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shaker hood for the win!

Wiking

Hows that. I shopped just exactly that NIN pro duct ino mymax... Maybe mymax is smaller than yours?

bradsm87

E) None of the above.

We are talking about a Maxima here. Do you really have no other ways to spend your money? Have you already got sports shocks, sports springs, rear swaybar, front strut brace, high flow air filter, aftermarket headers, y-pipe, high flow cat, high flow cat-back, high flow muffler, advanced ignition timing, recent replacement of plugs, leads, distributor cap and rotor head? All those things will make more of a difference than a bonnet scoop. If you've already done all that and you can't think of any more ways to spend your money, squeeze a couple of little turbos and a front mount intercooler into it. She'll go then!

Wiking

I am on your side: E) None of the above

I assume (?) kcidmil has most of those. Plus some rigged don-key-carts. So let him build if wifey gives loose rope... smtg good is comin out of this project.

MrGone

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I demand a shaker. Sure it goes the wrong direction but who cares, it's a shaker

kcidmil

triple G- the Max has enough of a sport look to use a nice, smooth flowing hood scoop. So that's why I decided this route.

Wiking- smaller because it will flow back into the hood, not squared like the one shown

bradsm87- I wrote this at the very beginning
Though I must thank you for it being positive. Most people would go No the suspension is not done, but that will be this Feb. And if you look at the 3rd post in this thread, it'll explain why I'm doing this.
Plus of all the stuff you listed, the only thing I don't have as yet is headers, y-pipe and a new cat. Though I went the custom route for Cat-back.

Josh- I've talked to the guy already, he got his out of a junkyard. Unfourtantley there are none in my local area that has an old Z to steal from.

Mr Gone- The shaker hood style could still be a possibilty, it would be easier to do than molding the scoop into the hood. 1, less fiberglass to have to play with, 2 I wouldn't have to weld in strips of metal under the hood for a seal to push against.

One last thing everyone, I'm not going the route of a turbo, though by the time I am done with the engine, it will be able to support one. The main problem I have is time, I don't know how much of it I have. Being in the military, I could get orders down to move at anytime. I would hate to have my engine and tranny out, and get orders to Germany. Creates a headache I really didn't need.

Wiking

New Modellos Italianos upd looks better?

tripleGmax

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youll need to move that thing back a little wiking.

kcidmil

yep. that's close to what I'm doing, just needs to be moved back.

Wiking

And now u say this. Where am I goin to get new hood?

Greeny

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kcidmil

Simple... when you cut the new hole, just transfer the metal to the old hole.... duh

tripleGmax

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photoshop.

kcidmil

when is the page ever going to hit page 2??? geez, I'm getting sick of scrolling

Greeny

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Done....

kcidmil

nice try.... anymore comments... cause I'm still stuck between molding, or doing a shaker style

Greeny

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Make a decision dude...your starting to sound like my wife..... j/k

kcidmil

sorry... just getting hungry.

MrGone

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I'm sorry, you must be confused





see these are shakers, and while it will never be the same it's worth a try

http://www.transamcuda.com/gallery/70%20PLUM%20TA2.JPG
http://www.transamcuda.com/gallery/70%20PLUM%20TA.JPG
http://www.transamcuda.com/gallery/7...AKER%20CAR.JPG
http://www.transamcuda.com/gallery/7...KER%20HOOD.JPG

see look, complete and utter hawtness
http://www.transamcuda.com/gallery/7...ACK%206PAK.JPG


mother of god
http://www.transamcuda.com/gallery/WHITE71HEMICUDA.jpg
http://www.transamcuda.com/gallery/c...002profolr.jpg
http://www.transamcuda.com/gallery/W...EMI%20CUDA.JPG





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kcidmil

A shaker hood scoop sticks THROUGH the hood. Much like what I might do.

MrGone

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I demand a shaker





remove 3 spark plugs when you are bored for an added effect

Greeny

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avusblue92se

Check out MaDMax024's homepage, there is a picture of a white max with a Z hoodscoop.

Greeny

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kcidmil

I like my opening design better