5peed gone?
12-26-2005, 10:21 AM
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5speed gone?
Ok guy was just out toying with this modded old body mustang. and we started from my 3rd gear shifted to 4th no problem went to 5th and the tranny just went into neutral. and started sounding like maybe I broke and axel then I stop and looked and to find that it was fine (cv Axel).So the only gears after that worked was 3rd and 4th. and it makes a lot of noise in the tranny.. I wonder what hapened. But I did beat this guy by about a car to a car and half you should have seen the big a$$ tires he had on the rear.
12-26-2005, 12:47 PM
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You blew 5th gear and little pieces of that gear are blocking you out of the 1st and 2nd gear shaft. So 3rd and 4th (on the same shaft) are still working. The noise you are hearing are the pieces moving everywhere in your tranny. 5th gear is probably stripped since you felt like you were in neutral.
Once I blew only 3rd gear but couldn't get into 1st and 2nd because of the pieces everywhere. I had to start out in 4th gear.
A gear set like 5th gear cost me 80$cnd in a used transmission parts shop. And 50$ to get them mounted on either shafts.
Yet another victim of the weak @ss RS5F50 tranny.
Once I blew only 3rd gear but couldn't get into 1st and 2nd because of the pieces everywhere. I had to start out in 4th gear.
A gear set like 5th gear cost me 80$cnd in a used transmission parts shop. And 50$ to get them mounted on either shafts.
Yet another victim of the weak @ss RS5F50 tranny.
12-26-2005, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mtcookson
a bomb to blow up borg warner... 
(cia, fbi, whomever, please note i am just joking).
(cia, fbi, whomever, please note i am just joking).
hahaha.... i love how you hate borg warner so much.. i probably will soon to im scared. I did a 13 psi 3rd gear pull today, haveing blown 3rd gears on my mind, i was quite nervous... I just felt so good i couldnt let off. turned out ok.
Jeremy
12-27-2005, 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by maxmaxima91
hahaha.... i love how you hate borg warner so much.. i probably will soon to im scared. I did a 13 psi 3rd gear pull today, haveing blown 3rd gears on my mind, i was quite nervous... I just felt so good i couldnt let off. turned out ok.
Jeremy
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12-27-2005, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MrGone
You didn't win if you broke your car 
And it's called a Vintage/Classic, Fox, or SN95 Mustang.
And it's called a Vintage/Classic, Fox, or SN95 Mustang.
12-27-2005, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by maxmaxima91
hahaha.... i love how you hate borg warner so much.. i probably will soon to im scared. I did a 13 psi 3rd gear pull today, haveing blown 3rd gears on my mind, i was quite nervous... I just felt so good i couldnt let off. turned out ok.
Jeremy
Jeremy
Sooooo...
1991 Isuzu Rodeo - auto tranny died, $1,800
1991 Nissan Maxima - auto tranny died, $1,800 (after telling my mom over and over again that imports were super reliable and wouldn't die... damn you borg warner!!!!)
1990 Nissan Maxima - input shaft bearing dead when purchased (thought it was a throwout bearing issue....)
Drove it too long without knowing the problem was internal, caused the aluminum shaft for the throwout bearing to break. Bought a salvage yard tranny that was claimed to be in perfect condition.
Found out it had a broken input shaft bearing after installing it. Pulled it, bought the parts to fix it, put it back in, all was good.
Roughly 8 months and 0 miles later, I get the car running after the turbo swap and lo and behold! Thy input shaft bearing is no more... so I just left it as such.
I actually got another tranny from a member here a while back and the input shaft bearing in his was bad as well (I already knew it was). So yeah... they don't have a good record with me and now my mom will never trust any of my cars because of it.
12-27-2005, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 93turbo gxe
it was like a 80 to 90 model... but modded
and remember BW biult the orginal T56 which is an awsome and very strong trans so if they want to they can do it but it could of been nissan that simply ordered a cheap trans and that what we got you also have to remeber that this trans was originally designed in the early 80s for the 2nd gen which had 150somthinghp VG in which case it would have been acceptably strong it was nissans fault for not upgrading it when they upgraded the engines
12-27-2005, 07:23 PM
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Hey according to this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Maxima, the auto trannies were made by a company called "Jatco". Is this like another name for BW?
"The automatic transmission on all GXE's and optional on SE's was an innovative compact unit from Jatco, featuring four-speed electronic control and adaptive 'sport' and 'comfort' modes that shift at different points."
"The automatic transmission on all GXE's and optional on SE's was an innovative compact unit from Jatco, featuring four-speed electronic control and adaptive 'sport' and 'comfort' modes that shift at different points."
12-28-2005, 01:40 PM
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Having a stock replacement tranny will only give you a temporary solution. Of course, once one of em goes, you will (probably) have an intact tranny case to put modded gears in. This thread is particularly interesting. http://www.forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=447207
It would be a great, although expensive, solution.
It would be a great, although expensive, solution.
12-28-2005, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad92SE
Having a stock replacement tranny will only give you a temporary solution. Of course, once one of em goes, you will (probably) have an intact tranny case to put modded gears in. This thread is particularly interesting. http://www.forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=447207
It would be a great, although expensive, solution.
It would be a great, although expensive, solution.
12-28-2005, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nismosleeper
So do the sr20 gears fit the ve5 trannies? I've looked into getting a built tranny, but most places are vague about what they can do for a set price, and what it can(hp/tq) withstand.
Just do like you're doing now and put together a solid set of innerds. Then ship the whole thing off to get cryo treated (like 75-100 bucks give or take).
Exspecially for our applications having such a vague market and support. Cryo treating the tranny maybe the answer to all of our crappy trany issues.
12-28-2005, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by nismosleeper
So do the sr20 gears fit the ve5 trannies? I've looked into getting a built tranny, but most places are vague about what they can do for a set price, and what it can(hp/tq) withstand.
12-29-2005, 09:44 PM
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the first time you drive your car with straight cut gears youll hate yourself for doing it think of it as driving with the rev noise only in all fwd gears
straight cut gears have there advantages and disadvantage but there really not for a daily driver
straight cut gears have there advantages and disadvantage but there really not for a daily driver
12-30-2005, 10:29 AM
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straight cut gear whine http://www.supercarchallenge.nl/video/assen-bmwSTW.wmv
12-30-2005, 04:41 PM
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It all comes down to a loud whine or fixing the tranny every few thousand. I don't know but if you can drop down over 250whp and break the tranny every couple thousand miles is reasonable then do it. But going with a rather lound whine that my loud exhaust can make up for then screw it I am gonna put up with it.
12-30-2005, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mtcookson
straight cut gear whine http://www.supercarchallenge.nl/video/assen-bmwSTW.wmv
12-30-2005, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by VD Providah
It all comes down to a loud whine or fixing the tranny every few thousand. I don't know but if you can drop down over 250whp and break the tranny every couple thousand miles is reasonable then do it. But going with a rather lound whine that my loud exhaust can make up for then screw it I am gonna put up with it.
Well the cronic repairs would become a major pain but I would and will consider it when making like say 5-600+ HP. Deffinitely not for the DD and damn that **** is LOAD !!!!
12-31-2005, 10:17 AM
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I'm looking at what I can do as well for my tranny as I approach completing my turbo project. I had thought about swapping in a VE 5sp in place of my VG 5sp tranny to obtain the LSD benifit and thinking that the VE tranny was more durable. I'm hearing these options for the first time in regards to the gears. If I can get a Phantom Grip LSD for reasonable and upgrade gears during the turbo install, then I'm up for it. I was looking as a second option to rebuild my Vg tranny anyway. So, can we have some clarification about options here? If direct cut gears are nearly bullet proof and an affordable option, I'll put in my call for them at Courtesy Nissan first of the week! I can tollerate whine when I know what it is and is healthy! Some clarification would be appreciated!
12-31-2005, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Gregg
I'm looking at what I can do as well for my tranny as I approach completing my turbo project. I had thought about swapping in a VE 5sp in place of my VG 5sp tranny to obtain the LSD benifit and thinking that the VE tranny was more durable. I'm hearing these options for the first time in regards to the gears. If I can get a Phantom Grip LSD for reasonable and upgrade gears during the turbo install, then I'm up for it. I was looking as a second option to rebuild my Vg tranny anyway. So, can we have some clarification about options here? If direct cut gears are nearly bullet proof and an affordable option, I'll put in my call for them at Courtesy Nissan first of the week! I can tollerate whine when I know what it is and is healthy! Some clarification would be appreciated!
heres the link to the gears
http://www.par-engineering.com/nissantirs.htm#nissansss
12-31-2005, 01:40 PM
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For most 3rd genners... the gears themselves won't be the problem. Its the input shaft bearing. I talked to IPT (www.ipttrans.com) and they said they know of the problem and can put a larger bearing in, which seems to solve the problem. I was thinking of getting that done but a new project came along (VH45 powered 280Z) so I haven't done it... yet. I'm tossing around a couple ideas about the tranny problem but can't decide between going the easiest route... or the harder but most unique and awesome route. I'll eventually decide.
12-31-2005, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mtcookson
For most 3rd genners... the gears themselves won't be the problem. Its the input shaft bearing. I talked to IPT (www.ipttrans.com) and they said they know of the problem and can put a larger bearing in, which seems to solve the problem. I was thinking of getting that done but a new project came along (VH45 powered 280Z) so I haven't done it... yet. I'm tossing around a couple ideas about the tranny problem but can't decide between going the easiest route... or the harder but most unique and awesome route. I'll eventually decide.
12-31-2005, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Gregg
I'm looking at what I can do as well for my tranny as I approach completing my turbo project. I had thought about swapping in a VE 5sp in place of my VG 5sp tranny to obtain the LSD benifit and thinking that the VE tranny was more durable. I'm hearing these options for the first time in regards to the gears. If I can get a Phantom Grip LSD for reasonable and upgrade gears during the turbo install, then I'm up for it. I was looking as a second option to rebuild my Vg tranny anyway. So, can we have some clarification about options here? If direct cut gears are nearly bullet proof and an affordable option, I'll put in my call for them at Courtesy Nissan first of the week! I can tollerate whine when I know what it is and is healthy! Some clarification would be appreciated!
Just do a rebuild and upgrade whatever weak point of your stock tranny then cryo it. There really isn't a better more affordable way to go.
01-01-2006, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mtcookson
For most 3rd genners... the gears themselves won't be the problem. Its the input shaft bearing. I talked to IPT (www.ipttrans.com) and they said they know of the problem and can put a larger bearing in, which seems to solve the problem. I was thinking of getting that done but a new project came along (VH45 powered 280Z) so I haven't done it... yet. I'm tossing around a couple ideas about the tranny problem but can't decide between going the easiest route... or the harder but most unique and awesome route. I'll eventually decide.
did they happen to give u a part number? was it an SKF or CR part?
01-02-2006, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DaWifey's90
did they happen to give u a part number? was it an SKF or CR part?
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