3rd Generation Maxima (1989-1994) Learn more about the 3rd Generation Maxima here.

Rack Boot Replacement

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 05:09 PM
  #1  
Phoenix's Avatar
Thread Starter
Lives in a Maxima
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 399
Rack Boot Replacement

Ok, so in replacing the clutch is was discovered, or rather, when I picked up the car, the guy told me... the rack boots are pretty much destroyed and that I should have them replaced. Failure to do so will require a new completely new rack. He quoted me $60 for parts and $140 in labor. So, first question, in the graphic below, is the thingy denoted by the arrow the boot he's referring to?


Second question. Is he right about needing a new rack if i don't replace these?

Third... I really don't want to pay him to do it, if I do it (and probably my tie rod ends as it seems convenient to do them at the same time) how much of a pain in the **** will this be?
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 05:22 PM
  #2  
Phoenix's Avatar
Thread Starter
Lives in a Maxima
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 399
And before you refer me to your site, Internetautomar, I've already been there. I know you sell the boot set for $20. I'm just making sure I have the right boot.
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 05:29 PM
  #3  
Greeny's Avatar
¯\(°_o)/¯
iTrader: (43)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 64,424
From: Tunasea
That is the right part...

Yes if you do not replace boot,then eventually the rack seals will fail...

You will need to remove the outer tie rod and inner tie rod end to access the boot...
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 05:32 PM
  #4  
Phoenix's Avatar
Thread Starter
Lives in a Maxima
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 399
Originally Posted by MyGreenMax94
That is the right part...
Excellent. Now, about the pain in the **** factor...

Also, on internetautomart, there's Generic tie rod ends ($15) and there's Moog ($32-40). Can anyone say if/why the Moog's are better?
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 06:32 PM
  #5  
internetautomar's Avatar
mod or sell?
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,760
From: Skokie (look it up)
i normally give advice before I start the sales pitch
get the generics, I've had nothing but good luck with them and the quality appears to be right up there with the best of them.
Moog is a well known brand name, but in the case of the max they don't make the tie rods themselves, they just reboxed last time I looked
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 06:42 PM
  #6  
Michael's Avatar
Back in a 3rd Gen.
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 4,944
Originally Posted by internetautomar
i normally give advice before I start the sales pitch
get the generics, I've had nothing but good luck with them and the quality appears to be right up there with the best of them.
Moog is a well known brand name, but in the case of the max they don't make the tie rods themselves, they just reboxed last time I looked

are the generics actually made for the car or are they the universal fit? I had some generics that were universal fit and they werent even close.
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 06:45 PM
  #7  
internetautomar's Avatar
mod or sell?
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,760
From: Skokie (look it up)
I don't sell universal parts.
they are direct replacements.

how would one make a universal tie rod anyhow
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 07:04 PM
  #8  
Michael's Avatar
Back in a 3rd Gen.
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 4,944
Originally Posted by internetautomar
I don't sell universal parts.
they are direct replacements.

how would one make a universal tie rod anyhow
Im sorry I was talking about the universal tie rod boot not the tie rod itself...I read what I wanted into your post because i forgot the guy wanted more than just the boot.

So do you have the direct fit tie rod boots?
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 07:54 PM
  #9  
internetautomar's Avatar
mod or sell?
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,760
From: Skokie (look it up)
yeah, they're direct fit.
there aren't that many boot options in reality.
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 08:02 PM
  #10  
Phoenix's Avatar
Thread Starter
Lives in a Maxima
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 399
ok, so...

Boots: $40 ($20x2)
Tie Rod Ends: $30 ($15x2)

What else should get replaced while I'm that far?
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 08:11 PM
  #11  
Michael's Avatar
Back in a 3rd Gen.
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 4,944
Brian are you sure that boot kit is for one side at $20? That sounds a little high for one boot.

I may just use duct tape
Old Feb 17, 2006 | 07:05 AM
  #12  
internetautomar's Avatar
mod or sell?
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,760
From: Skokie (look it up)
yeah, it's just for one side.

you don't want universal, but you'll use duct tape

radiator hose tape
Old Feb 17, 2006 | 08:09 AM
  #13  
Michael's Avatar
Back in a 3rd Gen.
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 4,944
Originally Posted by internetautomar
yeah, it's just for one side.

you don't want universal, but you'll use duct tape
haha no not really...just a joke. I am cheap but not that bad
Old Feb 17, 2006 | 09:16 AM
  #14  
ArcticDC5's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 678
I did this last summer. You do not have to remove the inner tie rod end, just the outer. Once that is removed, then you can pull the old one off by taking the twist tie off by cutting it. The biggest pain in the procesure is getting the boot end on the rack itself since there is little room to work with, having the subframe being in the way and all. I think the boots were $20 each at nissan and I used tie straps instead of the metal twist ties they give you.

Once you have the old boots off, put a generous amount of grease on the rack gear, then put the new boot on.
Old Feb 17, 2006 | 12:41 PM
  #15  
aspirin240's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 55
I got the same problem too and the mechanic told me that the Inner Tie Rod is alittle bit loose. I want to know is it hard to replace the Inner Tie Rod and the Boot. Do I have to do alignment after I replaced the Inner Tie rod? Thanks
Old Feb 17, 2006 | 12:52 PM
  #16  
internetautomar's Avatar
mod or sell?
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,760
From: Skokie (look it up)
you don't HAVE to do an alignment, but I'd sure as hades recommend it.
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 10:10 AM
  #17  
majordan's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 252
Did anyone from this thread actually replace an inner tie-rod end. I will attempt to get er done, but I am in need of some help. Number of hours to do the job, any special tools needed and any additional parts needed to complete the job on both sides.
Old Feb 25, 2006 | 12:43 PM
  #18  
Phoenix's Avatar
Thread Starter
Lives in a Maxima
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 399
I posted this question in the Fluids & Lubricats forum, but no one ever reads that forum, so I'll ask you... What's the reccomended lubricant for the rack?
Old Feb 25, 2006 | 12:47 PM
  #19  
Pervis Anathema's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,761
Originally Posted by Michael
I had some generics that were universal fit and they werent even close.
No, they weren't.

Changing them is easy. Jack up car, support car with jack stands, remove wheel, remove outer tire rod end, remove old boot, install new boot. Simple.

I recommend Moog. Got mine from Rock Auto. Perfect fit.

Why the name change?
Old Feb 25, 2006 | 02:01 PM
  #20  
Michael's Avatar
Back in a 3rd Gen.
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 4,944
Originally Posted by Pervis Anathema
No, they weren't.
lol it was all that we had at the time and was better than what was on there




Originally Posted by Pervis Anathema
Why the name change?
dunno just felt like a change since I noticed that Michael wasnt taken and thats pretty unusual for a popular first name not to be taken so I had to take it.

I put awsm66 in my avatar so eveyone knows it still me though.
Old Feb 27, 2006 | 09:08 AM
  #21  
majordan's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 252
Can anybody tell me if there is any special tools needed in replacing the inner tie rods. I am only getting the skinny on boot replacement from this thread.

tks
Old Feb 27, 2006 | 02:13 PM
  #22  
Phoenix's Avatar
Thread Starter
Lives in a Maxima
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 399
Maybe that's becuase this thread was about replacing boots. I expressed interest in changing outer tie rods... But nothing was ever said about inner tie rods in relating to the topic at hand. Maybe that's why no one discussed them. Just my take on the matter though.
Old Feb 27, 2006 | 04:50 PM
  #23  
Governor's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 380
Originally Posted by ArcticDC5
I did this last summer. You do not have to remove the inner tie rod end, just the outer. Once that is removed, then you can pull the old one off by taking the twist tie off by cutting it. The biggest pain in the procesure is getting the boot end on the rack itself since there is little room to work with, having the subframe being in the way and all. I think the boots were $20 each at nissan and I used tie straps instead of the metal twist ties they give you.

Once you have the old boots off, put a generous amount of grease on the rack gear, then put the new boot on.
there is a trick to getting the boot end on the rack...roll the boot back like a rubber then put it over the rack and unroll it..I had more trouble getting the metal tie crimped that holds them on...
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
lowpost99
1st & 2nd Generation Maxima (1981-1984 and 1985-1988)
9
Oct 26, 2025 06:53 PM
PH98I30
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
29
Feb 10, 2025 12:03 PM
MAXSE5SPD
General Maxima Discussion
33
Sep 17, 2022 04:00 AM
mvm062
Infiniti I30/I35
3
Nov 30, 2020 09:00 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:03 AM.