kling's maxima

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Well, now I'm very much at a crossroads.

My max totalled, my heart broken, I have the oppertunity to purchase another maxima for about $3200 US, or my friend is sick of his NX 2000, and will sell it to me for about $1000 US. Only problem is, It needs quite a bit of body work, the fender on the front and bumper and headlight need to be replaced, and i'm sure there's some rust that I will have to address...

The maxima appears to be in fantastic condition minus a few small, easily fixable problems.

decisions decisions

comments comments?

zander

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I think the NX2000 looks kinda lame, like a geo storm or something. How is the engine from your max? I wonder if you could fit it in the engine bay of the NX lol! If the max looks good and runs good though I think it would be the better of the two. But 3200 is alot.

max89_v6

The NX2000's are slow cars. That's all there is to it.

kling's maxima

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Yes, it does seem like a lot. Unfortunatly people here have their heads way up the yin yang when it comes to pricing cars, and that's a 'reasonable' price here....sigh

Mr. Blue Sky

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don't get an NX

MyBlue92Maxima

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talk him down on price, tell him you owned a max and know what they are about and his is overpriced , whats the details of his car, miles? auto/standard? any upgraded parts? all maitnence done, on time?

goon9

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Nx is a crap box a level under honds... Yeah there is such a thing. Unless you put a small block in one, lol.

95turbo gxe

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Nx2000 =

VEvolution

I took a look at these NX's just now.. Looks like a small crappy Geo type economy vehicle with a I4.. It's up to you, if you want that over a Max. Just fix it, and be done with the confusion.

Phoenix

I don't want to be the only person with a positive note on the NX, but the NX2000 has the SR20DE. The NX1600 has the CA16 and it may be economy but I wouldn't call it a crap box. $1000 is a very good prive for an NX2000. They're easily turbo'd, light, quick, and apparently very underrated. I saw one killing RX-8s and S2000s out at Qualcomm in San Diego.

internetautomar

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NX = 1.6
NX2000 = 2.0

they're ugly, but very capable and receptive to mods, it's essentially a 2 door sentra.

how much is the body work on the NX? figure that into the calculations
I'd hit the VE personally.
but then again I'd try to talk down the NX to ~$500 and buy both.
NX= track ****
max= DD

Greeny

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NX= girl car

VEvolution

I noticed on cardomain, alot of them have our steering wheels.

kling's maxima

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Not to kissass or anything, but I looked on the NX forum...and I must say:

SUB PAR

the max forum kicks it's butt...

That aside, I offered the guy 700, he's in another province, no one will ever buy it because they have to have it saftied in that province, which will cost more than it's worth, and I think he'll take it, a few weeks of not selling it and he'll find out how impossible it is for him to get what he's asking.

If not, then as soon as my insurance money comes in, that other max will be mine. I hope I can talk him down to even 3k US (ish)...but if that don't work, I'll have a lot of extra max parts for sale soon, that were waiting to go on a max but never made it

and yes, I have driven the NX before, and they go like a mother-fricker...light, fast, nice look...and when soooooooped, looked awesome:

http://www.sr20forum.com/showthread.php?t=143902

I'll keep everyone posted
-the great white northerner drinking a cold one...two...three...and crying about my baby max going to maxima heaven

kling's maxima

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miles = ~ 120k
tranny = standard
upgraded parts = 0
maitenence done = yes, and receipts

It looks like an awesome condition maxima, with 2 sets of rims, and would take to some mods quite well. It was a smokers' car, which I HATE, and dont know how to get that retarded stench out...any ideas?...and I seemed to have to almost put the clutch to the floor to shift...(again, not used to standards, let alone max's...is that a normal shifting pattern?) Shocks were nice and tight (i have brand new kyb's if i need them), and I have an extra set of the GXE rims still from the busted max to replace with the (hope i'm not insulting anyone here) god awful looking SE rims...
All in all, I prefer the max, but the price of the NX is incredibly tempting, and I could get a lot of modding done for the same price as this guys' stock maxima...so again, difficult and I'll be sure to post further details when I have the chance.

VEvolution

The Max forum kicks all forum butts I been to so far. Don't know about the Supra forum though.

95turbo gxe

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but the vg= massive torque that the sr20 could not provide!

vansskaterfreek

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make sure you ask when the timing belt was done.... if it wasnt recent.. tell him to knock down the price ALOT

Phoenix

The VG puts out 182 ft/lbs, the NX2000, 130 ft/lbs. But the Max weighs 3129lbs compared to 2461lbs for the NX. So if you work it out, each ft/lb moves 17 lbs of mass on the Max and 18 lbs on the NX... So I would call that a pretty negligible difference.

Horsepower is more (per pound) on the NX, so it equals out... it's a tough comparison to make. even for torque, it doesn't peak out till 4800rpm as opposed to 2800 on the VG. Low-end power vs. high-end power, really. I'm not going to make any judgements.

max89_v6

Yeah, I suppose the NX2000 keeps you open for a SR20 swap, and the numbers aren't all that bad on them

1991 Nissan NX 2000 7.8 16.1
1993 Nissan NX 1600 9.9 17.3

2000 vs. 1600. that's not terrible by any means.

VEvolution

Thats like comparing a VG and a VE with those result differences.

tripleGmax

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just say no to the NX and its rust.

Grace_Imports

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NX2s are not slow if they are running right even stock. It is basically a Sentra SE-R with different clothes. SR20s have tons of potential either N/A or turbo. The styling is subject to debate. Mine will kick the shick out of plenty of Honduhs and handles like it's on rail. C&D tested a NX2 0-60 in 6.9 secs back when they were new. I'll never give up my NX but my Max is more practical since I have kids etc. The NX would be much easier and cheaper to mod and you can go a lot further with it than a trusty Maxima. The NX doesn't need masive torque since it weighs much less than a Maxima. The only slow NXs were the 1600s. I don't really know where these guys are coming up with NX2s are slow and garbage. If you don't like the styling it's understandable.

VEvolution

What makes their engines so special though? Seems like your usual econobox I4 in a lightweight uninspired car... No offense.

kling's maxima

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Well guys, this appears to be my last thread response.

The Maxima destroyed and written off, My friend knocked his nx price down to $550 US. It's only got 140,000km's on it, so I can't say no.

I now have some parts to sell, so i'll post those soon.

Thank you all so very much for being a wonderful part of my short 6 months owning a maxima...you all have a special place in my heart, and all that mushy stuff.

Grace_Imports

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It's not just any 4 cylinder, it's an SR20DE(T) and the car has outstanding handling and they are reliable. Nissan has made other great cars besides Maximas and the Sentra SE-R/NX2 siblings are high on the list.

VEvolution

Right up there with the Skylines.

Grace_Imports

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Not putting it with a Skyline but B13 SE-Rs didn't get a cult following for nothing. More people can afford a Maxima, SE-R, or 240sx than a Skyline. If that wasn't the case then there would be a lot more Skyline owners. NXs had quirky styling, they were overpriced new and sold poorly but there is a ton of potential to be had. Also, magazine 0-60s can vary greatly from rag to rag. Real world stock SE-Rs ran 9.90s-10.20s stock in the 1/8th. When I bought my NX, I changed the plugs and oil and ran 10.009. I backed that up with several low 10.00s. My 60 ft was in the 2.20s. The car was 8 years old at the time, bone stock, and had already clocked over 100k miles. I don't think it was too bad for an econobox N/A 4 cylinder. I still have the timeslip somewhere. My NX doesn't look like every other ricer Civic either and if someone wants to confuse it with a Storm/Impulse that's fine.

VEvolution

I was just kidding about the Skyline thing

So hows the aftermarket lookin for these cars?

Grace_Imports

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Aftermarket is great, Civics may have more support but that's probably it. SR20s respond very well to mods. Drive a GSR and you'll be impressed with the peaky high RPM. Drive a good running SE-R and you'll be impressed with the fat power curve and generous torque but it still revs. It just doesn't have the top end that a GS-R does. Area Under the Curve is your friend.

Jeff92se

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How does a Nissan owner NOT know about the SR20 series engines? Even a NA modded SR20 in a NX would probably rip a maxima up/down all day. Add a turbo system (very cheaply I might add) and it's all over. Since the NA SR20 is a very well built engine, it takes to boost much better than a VE or VQ engine for that matter. Getting into the 13s would be pretty easy on this light of a car.

Grace_Imports

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Thankyou very much. I think I was trying to make that point but got long winded. I like my Maxima but if one had to go the Maxima would be gone.

ColombianMax

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Dude, just get the NX..550 isnt a bad deal depending on the condition other than the body. I've seen videos online of those beating "faster" cars with 3400 engines. if its rusting pretty badly then just use it as a temp car until you buy something you actually want/like but other than that its a quick lil thing. And yes Grace you will be impressed with the SE-R my friend has a 200sx SE-R and he can kick my *** crazy style anytime along with some other cars

VEvolution

Don't know, was never really a fan.. Probably cause I see how slow they are stock.

Jeff92se

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Something to shoot for:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-NX-Timeslip-7424.html

VEvolution

Not bad.. The 3rd gen still has more potential in my opinion.

Jeff92se

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Not really. SR20+turbo=2600lbs > 3200lb maxima + turbo.

VEvolution

Sure.. Theres no replacement for displacement as well. And the Maxima can always drop weight. And looks better. And has more room.

Jeff92se

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Um yeah. The NX200 can drop weight also. Who freakin' needs displacement when the damned thing weighs 2600lbs stock? In CASE you need some information, a stock NA SR20 is basicly the same thing as a turbo sr20 except for the compression ratio. These engines can and have been boosted to well over 350hp. A VE30DE with a turbo would have a hard time doing that.

With that kind of potential from this SR20 engine + the fact that pre-made turbo manifolds and parts are easily available, face it. The maxima would be left FAR behind.

Let me know what you come up with. Here's a start from me. I'll try to find Mike Kojima's turbo na sr20 turbo article also. Since it's the same motor
http://www.se-r.net/about/nx2000/turbo_mag/aug98/

No disrespect to Brad and the handfull of other Ve turbo guys. But we just happened to run into a great engine and a light chassis we have to compete with. At least it's from Nissan.

Cutler

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Search Andreas Miko for NA times to be proud of and look at SR20forum for More info on the turbo/NA times....

I agree with the Fisherman here, SR20 potential > 3rd Gen potential....