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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 12:38 AM
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ecu upgrade question

ok i know in honda's putting like a p28 ecu will work on a few diff motor setups, and people can use like an EX ecu in like an dx ect, or an SI ecu in an ex. ect and so on

can someone you a 5spd 300zx vg ecu on an n/a 300 on a maxima se, like an 89, if both the same ecu's are obd0 btw.
will it work? someone told me it prob will, and i might gain a little bit, but not ALOT of difference, he said very little power increase. he said if i can get the ecu for under 50$ it would be worth it.
if i try putting a 300zx ecu in there, would it mess my car up?
i think the plugs are the same as well.
Old Apr 3, 2006 | 03:35 AM
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 07:54 AM
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nope... I belive ... think... That our VG maximas have more power than the N/A 300zxs from the 80s.. that or there the same. either way.. wouldnt be worth it one bit. Tuning the stock ecu (timing,Fuelmaps,Revlimit) could be worth it, but that would really only be after you have Many Many bolt ons
Old Apr 3, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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not the 80's model 300zx, im talking about the 90ish model. like 90-92
Old Apr 3, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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Lets see. If a 300zx ecu is similar to a 3rd gen maxima ecu, that means they are built the same. which means tuning programs like the zemulator (I believe thats the one Aarons trying to use) will work just the same. and its been proven to work. So go look for those.

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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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the Z32 Manual ECU shares ALOT (possibly everything) with a VE manual ECU
that's why Aaron has been playing with the Zemulator.

a VG ECU is a TOTALLY different animal though
Old Apr 3, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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VG30DE 222 hp
VG30E 160 hp

enough said
Old Apr 3, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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last i checked the maxima is made by nissan.
Old Apr 3, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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i know the hp difference duh, but will the ecu work? the ecu swaps people do in other cars, thats teh point! better mapping ect. im not a guru on it, but i have some experience and know somewhat of what im talkin about
my main question is, will a vg 90ish obd0 ecu work in a vg obd0 max, reason being is, its eiser to get a 300zx ecu chipped and tuned then a maxima.
Old Apr 3, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by backNblackj30
i know the hp difference duh, but will the ecu work? the ecu swaps people do in other cars, thats teh point! better mapping ect. im not a guru on it, but i have some experience and know somewhat of what im talkin about
my main question is, will a vg 90ish obd0 ecu work in a vg obd0 max, reason being is, its eiser to get a 300zx ecu chipped and tuned then a maxima.
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VG30DE 222 hp
VG30E 160 hp

enough said
Its not the HP he's refering to its the big bold D that makes the big difference. From everything stated in this thread the answer to your question should be pretty clear.
Old Apr 3, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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will a vg 90ish obd0 ecu work in a vg obd0 max, reason being is, its eiser to get a 300zx ecu chipped and tuned then a maxima.
NO, and wrong.

Think about, the engines are soooo much differnt. What do they have in common besides 3.0L??????? Even if the harnesses were the same (they arent) injectors alone being different, you are going to have to tune that Z32 ECU to get it to make THE SAME power as your stock ECU. There even if you find a Z32 ECU for $50 (yeah right!) you are going to need to reprogram it, which will run you $250-$650 depending on which method you choose.

As for tuning the maxima ECU, you can tune it for any possible variable. Use the romulator for around $250 if you want to save money and know how to tune, or send it off to JWT and have them program anything you want for simple plug and play for $650. If you are interested, I have a JWT ECU for sale, only $350! You would have to get it reprogramed, but that only costs $50.
Old Apr 3, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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NO!!!!!!!!!!!

IT WILL NOT WORK IN YOUR CAR.....PERIOD!!!







clear enough..
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 03:44 AM
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[size=+6][b][highlight]NO!!!!!!!!!!!

IT WILL NOT WORK IN YOUR CAR.....PERIOD!!![highlight][b][size]






clear enough..
I disagree
His car is JDM enough it will work

but there is only one way to know for sure (aside from knowing how cars work), buy it and try it
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 07:01 AM
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Why don't you buy a SAFC-II, JWT ECU, or go full stand alone and save yourself the trouble of trying to make a Z32 ECU work with your car?

You will get better results with any of those units and they will be more flexible to work with since you are planning on adding those stage 1000 cams.
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 07:07 AM
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I disagree
His car is JDM enough it will work

but there is only one way to know for sure (aside from knowing how cars work), buy it and try it
MrGones jdm nauz kit ftw...
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by backNblackj30
can someone you a 5spd 300zx vg ecu on an n/a 300 on a maxima se, like an 89, if both the same ecu's are obd0 btw.
will it work? someone told me it prob will, and i might gain a little bit, but not ALOT of difference, he said very little power increase. he said if i can get the ecu for under 50$ it would be worth it.
if i try putting a 300zx ecu in there, would it mess my car up?
i think the plugs are the same as well.

this 'someone' doesn't have a clue what they're talking about. if it was possible, someone would have done it by now. do you think you're the first person to try and mod a maxima? how many 3gen vg maxs do you see on this site with z ecus? zero. you know why? because it doesn't f-ing work. at least a hundred 3gens here have jwt tuned ecus that work like a clock. you would know this if you did a little research before you went and started posting useless threads again. you're a waste of space.
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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at this point ... we may be beating a dead horse... i think he gets the point
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mattcomet82
this 'someone' doesn't have a clue what they're talking about. if it was possible, someone would have done it by now. do you think you're the first person to try and mod a maxima? how many 3gen vg maxs do you see on this site with z ecus? zero. you know why? because it doesn't f-ing work. at least a hundred 3gens here have jwt tuned ecus that work like a clock. you would know this if you did a little research before you went and started posting useless threads again. you're a waste of space.
Most people don't feel like paying JWT outragous prices. He doesn't have a clue about this, but asking questions is a way of finding out. If he were to search though, he would find a lot more answers, since most of us are burned out on him. I'm sure that someone has tried running a vg30et ecu on a vg max. You don't know until you try. Maybe backblack can trade that sweet jdm ride in for a civic with a b18 swap.
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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Paying $50 to try an unknown ecu or $20 to be able to search and find out the truth.
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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i just spoke with a fellow nissan guy, who is into 300zx's he said yes teh 300zx ecu will work.
as long as it plugs up, it will work.
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by backNblackj30
i just spoke with a fellow nissan guy, who is into 300zx's he said yes teh 300zx ecu will work.
as long as it plugs up, it will work.
Don't forget to post a video of all that 300z jdm powah yO!
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by backNblackj30
i just spoke with a fellow nissan guy, who is into 300zx's he said yes teh 300zx ecu will work.
as long as it plugs up, it will work.
But what are you going to gain from it? I don't see your point in doing this. If you want an ecu that works well with your current level of mods, you would be better off having something that you can adjust yourself or have a custom program made based on the mods you have by someone like JWT.
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by backNblackj30
i just spoke with a fellow nissan guy, who is into 300zx's he said yes teh 300zx ecu will work.
as long as it plugs up, it will work.
No, it won't work. I'm into 300ZX's and know Nissan's and I say no. I have an 85 300ZX Turbo, a 90 300ZX n/a, a turbocharged Maxima, a 1990 Infiniti Q45, Datsun 280Z, work on my brother's 95 240SX, used to have a 1991 Maxima, etc. etc. etc... it won't work. Even if you used the ecu from another VG30E vehicle that plugged up, you would see no gains. Most of the changes are from manifolds if anything...

If you're wanting to increase performance ECU wise you can buy a JWT ecu, buy a Romulator and tune the ecu yourself, or buy the Zemulator and tune the ecu yourself. Unless you're planning on going with a turbo setup those would really be more work and/or money than necessary.
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mtcookson
No, it won't work. I'm into 300ZX's and know Nissan's and I say no. I have an 85 300ZX Turbo, a 90 300ZX n/a, a turbocharged Maxima, a 1990 Infiniti Q45, Datsun 280Z, work on my brother's 95 240SX, used to have a 1991 Maxima, etc. etc. etc... it won't work. Even if you used the ecu from another VG30E vehicle that plugged up, you would see no gains. Most of the changes are from manifolds if anything...

If you're wanting to increase performance ECU wise you can buy a JWT ecu, buy a Romulator and tune the ecu yourself, or buy the Zemulator and tune the ecu yourself. Unless you're planning on going with a turbo setup those would really be more work and/or money than necessary.

See that is the problem with this idiot,he comes on here,posts a question and then he will not take anybody's advise....We can all tell him elevendybillion times it won't work,but he won't listen..
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by backNblackj30
ok i know in honda's putting like a p28 ecu will work on a few diff motor setups, and people can use like an EX ecu in like an dx ect, or an SI ecu in an ex. ect and so on

can someone you a 5spd 300zx vg ecu on an n/a 300 on a maxima se, like an 89, if both the same ecu's are obd0 btw

You need to learn how to phrase a question correctly before asking it. Did you graduate high school? By the way, if you read through the forums maybe..6-7 months ago this question was asked, and then again about a year before that..

Old Apr 5, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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the 6 months ban is tempting....but i can't ban him until he sticks the ECU into his JDM hotness
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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the 6 months ban is tempting....but i can't ban him until he sticks the ECU into his JDM hotness

6 months,ten years...Whats the difference..
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by backNblackj30
i just spoke with a fellow nissan guy, who is into 300zx's he said yes teh 300zx ecu will work.
as long as it plugs up, it will work.
Time to get a new "nissan guy". First of, im pretty sure the connectors are different, so no go there. Again, the injectors are different, so youre looking at custom tuning your ECU, just like the Z32 ECU. Also, please remember that the Z31 is pre 3-gen, and therefore does not have the same electronis/sensors, so IF this ECU could somehow work, you would no longer be monitoring all of your current sensors.


BTW: JWT ECU still for sale...$350...........
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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just go buy one of them programmable ECu's...
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:28 AM
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you guys dont show support to anyone unless tehy have been on here a while you guys are quick to bas a newb. friday im goin to my shop and getting the 300 ecu, and seeing if it works.
ill keep you posted.
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by backNblackj30
you guys dont show support to anyone unless tehy have been on here a while you guys are quick to bas a newb. friday im goin to my shop and getting the 300 ecu, and seeing if it works.
ill keep you posted.
Why should we support someone that does not listen to ANY advise that we give..

Several of us have told you that the damn ecu will not work,not because were trying to be mean or not support you,or because you are a newb.....Plain and simple dude...It will not work!

Please trade your car so we don't have to put up with your crap anymore..
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by backNblackj30
you guys dont show support to anyone unless tehy have been on here a while you guys are quick to bas a newb. friday im goin to my shop and getting the 300 ecu, and seeing if it works.
ill keep you posted.

yup keep us posted...oh and please post pics because we have seen enough liars come and go on the forum.
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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No no. I support you! Go gadget go!

Originally Posted by backNblackj30
you guys dont show support to anyone unless tehy have been on here a while you guys are quick to bas a newb. friday im goin to my shop and getting the 300 ecu, and seeing if it works.
ill keep you posted.
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by backNblackj30
you guys dont show support to anyone unless tehy have been on here a while you guys are quick to bas a newb. friday im goin to my shop and getting the 300 ecu, and seeing if it works.
ill keep you posted.
Show support???????? I explained to you why the Z32 and Z31 ECU wont work, and in my explaination, I never said it wouldnt work becuase you are a new member to this board. The ECUs will NOT work for new members, OR old members, it just doesnt work. Futher more, I gave you 3 (three) examples of how you can actualy and effectively tune your ECU, and you have completely ignored that.

Perhaps this board is being too nice, you dont listen, you insult everyone, and you complain constantly. Everyday (that you arent banned) I see a new thread by you that asks a simple and common question, that could be answered by a simple search. Im no newbie basher, but you are really pushing you luck around here. The only reason you arent banned is because everyone wants to see what you are gonig to do next to your JDM hotness

Go gadget go!
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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I dont understand why you guys bother answering his stupid questions. I started ignoring him after he called me ignorant about wheels because I said you could put 17s and 18s on without them rubbing. I will never answer a question from him again even if he is going to blow up his car like this ECU deal might lol.

I think he snuck a question to me through aim when he was banned though...A guy asked me if the saw blade wheels would fit the car. I answered but figured it was him so didnt give much info...just said they would work but would stick in a lot since the offset was so high. If it wasnt him I feel bad for being so short to the guy asking.

as most of you guys know I never bash newbies and was real helpful to this guy at first but then when I saw he never took the advice and called me ignorant for something I knew for sure worked I gave up. I suggest everyone else do the same. I know its hard to do when you are a helpful guy but just make yourself ignore him and hope he gets incorrect info from another newbie that doesnt know what he is talking about...just dont correct them no matter how hard it is.
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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He really needs to get his hands on an ecu from a Skyline...
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by backNblackj30
i just spoke with a fellow nissan guy, who is into 300zx's he said yes teh 300zx ecu will work.
as long as it plugs up, it will work.
Since those of us who can search already know, could you just start doing instead of just jibber jabbing.

Unless you can prove otherwise, it wont work
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Originally Posted by DanNY
the 6 months ban is tempting....but i can't ban him until he sticks the ECU into his JDM hotness
do it MrGone style



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