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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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Drag

I already googled to no avail, So I come to you with this question:

Does anyone know the drag coefficient of our cars?
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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.32 drag coefficient

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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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that's surprisingly low. I mean, the new ones have a .28 (3.5 SE w/ spoiler), but dang. Thanks though
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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yup.. look over the old sales brochures and stuff. the 3rd gen is amazingly low on drag- especially considering the boxy front end!
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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Wow thats pretty slippery for a car from the early 90's. go us!
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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Anybody got proof if the spoilers really do anything? Matt, throw yours into a wind tunnel. If you don't, I will.
Old Apr 23, 2006 | 07:45 AM
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I know on the 5th gen (if i recall from my googling yesterday) the spoiler cut the Cd from .30 to .28

It may have been the 6th gen, i googled alot of maxs.

I was equally shocked at our low Cd seeing as my friend's Miata has a published Cd of .372. I think that may be with the soft top though. I'm sure a hard top cuts down on drag quite a bit.
Old Apr 23, 2006 | 07:49 AM
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I would be curious as to the degree of functionality of the spoiler, as well.
Old Apr 23, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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yeah me too.That is pretty low though for something back then
Old Apr 23, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AztecRedBlooded
I know on the 5th gen (if i recall from my googling yesterday) the spoiler cut the Cd from .30 to .28
Shouldn't drag increase with the spoiler? I always thought the spoiler isn't really used to help drag, just stabalize the car which is true. But Im not sure if it increases drag at the same time. Probably does.
Old Apr 24, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Pervis Anathema
I would be somewhat surprised if the spoiler does anything but (arguably) look nice. However, if the spoiler is functional, then, AFAIK, its purpose is to act like an upside down wing. Instead of generating lift, it generates downforce (drag) which helps to press the rear of the car to the ground which should enhance stability.
And the man with the aftermarket spoiler speaks j/k

I personaly think the spoiler does generate some downforce. This maybe a longshot assumption but, reason why I think this is cause on my old 93'GXE, on high speed the ride felt a bit loose. Could have been the softer GXE springs, but maybe not. On this new lovely 92'SE of mine, I could have swore I felt the spoiler holdin it down back there since day one. The ride just felt way more composed as the speed increased. But could have also been the stiffer SE springs. Who knows, but I don't know.. Looks like it should do at least something other then lookin fab.
Old Apr 24, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
yup.. look over the old sales brochures and stuff. the 3rd gen is amazingly low on drag- especially considering the boxy front end!
Here's one of those old adds...
Old Apr 24, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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I was very surprised to see that too a while back. My MR2 has a coefficient of .35... I need to get the hardtop.

R32 GT-R is supposedly .40...
Old Apr 24, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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I know its a little off topic, but speaking of GTR, I saw an early 90's 5.0 'stang with some GTR badges earlier...I'd be interested in the owner's (dumb@ss) reasoning behind them.
Old Apr 24, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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Probably believes his car is worth GT class racing.
Old Apr 25, 2006 | 05:13 AM
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I personally don't think our (stock) spoiler creates any downforce if any... On a FWD car rear downforce is bad. Rear downforce (behind the rear wheels) would use the rear axle as a fulcrum taking weight off the front. Given our wheelbase, it could probably only take a pound or two off, but Nissan engineers did everything else on this car so well, I don't think they would have let the spoiler screw it up.

Chances are, the spoiler breaks up the air patterns careening down our rear glass and trunk lid and directs enough of that air upward (possibly creating a little downforce) that it does not get stuck in a drag swirl behind the relatively flat rear end. Thus, reducing the vacuum created behind the car, reducing the amount the environment resists movement (remember the air has inertia too), and reducing the overall Coefficient of Drag.
Old Apr 25, 2006 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by AztecRedBlooded
I personally don't think our (stock) spoiler creates any downforce if any... On a FWD car rear downforce is bad. Rear downforce (behind the rear wheels) would use the rear axle as a fulcrum taking weight off the front. Given our wheelbase, it could probably only take a pound or two off, but Nissan engineers did everything else on this car so well, I don't think they would have let the spoiler screw it up.

Chances are, the spoiler breaks up the air patterns careening down our rear glass and trunk lid and directs enough of that air upward (possibly creating a little downforce) that it does not get stuck in a drag swirl behind the relatively flat rear end. Thus, reducing the vacuum created behind the car, reducing the amount the environment resists movement (remember the air has inertia too), and reducing the overall Coefficient of Drag.
couldn't have said it better myself.
Old Apr 25, 2006 | 07:09 AM
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you need downforce on the rear even in a FWD car.
Think about what happens when you lose traction in the rear.
I don't know about you but I don't like looking directly at traffic coming at me (been there done that)
Old Apr 25, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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I don't get it.. Why wouldn't you want downforce on any car?
Old Apr 25, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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When you accelerate in a FWD car, you shift weight to the rear... taking weight off of the drive wheels. A spoiler aft of the rear axle will add even more weight to the rear, and take a little from the front (not as much as it adds to the rear, though).

I'm not saying that you shouldn't have a spoiler... just that on a FWD car, you'd do more good with a good, functional, front air dam.
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