VE vs VQ (plus a pic to get you to look)
#121
Originally Posted by nismology
What's there to know? I don't know howww many 4G 3.0's have been in the low 14's/high 13's n/a...lol
And see post #110 in case you decide to get ignorant...
And see post #110 in case you decide to get ignorant...
#122
Cant you guys just stop fighting lol..I love both generations..I think the usual thing is to update/upgrade as things get newer. Yea somethings on the 4th gen could've been done differently as to there being quite a resemblence powerwise with the previous gen 92+ SE. I originally wanted 4th gen but couldn't afford one so I got a 3rd gen which I never liked and now I love it, yes its not fast but it sure is reliable as hell and a lot faster than my Accords. Have fun, enjoy yours Maximas, they're all very special in there own ways whether 1,2,3,4,5 or 6th gen
#123
Personaly, I've seen better numbers done by M/T, but since this R&T is all I have, I'll use this. In an old M/T I use to have the 3rd gen pulled a very nice .86g, so there seems to be quite a gap between mags and testing situations. I also find it really strange that the 4th gen is over 4 mph faster according to post #110. Come on VQ guys, lets see something more then words.
Originally Posted by Nismo3112
Did the VE win any awards?
#125
Originally Posted by Nismo3112
VE, from 92 to 94 SE's.
VQ - Debutes in 1995, Wards 10 best engines list - 1995.
VQ - Debutes in 1995, Wards 10 best engines list - 1995.
#126
Originally Posted by Nismo3112
Ohh, you mean the POS that won Motortrend's Import car of the year, and made Car and Driver's 10 best list?
#127
Originally Posted by internetautomar
well, the people that have driven in my car and a 4th gen back to back comment on how much better the feel of my third gen is (my car is BONE stock)
I've noticed that most of the people that argue that the 3rd gen > 4th gen cite intangible differences like "feel" or "soul"...nothing definitive or solid. Sure SOME of the interior pieces might not have been put together as well, but there is so much more to a car than that.
For the record, i'm not saying that the 4th gen is better than the 3rd blah blah blah. I just want to hear some hard evidence as to why the 3rd gen is better.
#128
Originally Posted by nismology
I've noticed that most of the people that argue that the 3rd gen > 4th gen cite intangible differences like "feel" or "soul"...nothing definitive or solid. Sure SOME of the interior pieces might not have been put together as well, but there is so much more to a car than that.
The 3rdGen represented the best of what Nissan had to offer and that is why passion for it still burns over 12 years later. Sure, the 4thGen may post subjectively /arguably better performance numbers. But it was a downsized car designed by a company that was by that point fighting for its life. It lacks the panache and uniqueness of the 3rdGen. It lacks the style and soul of the 3rdGen. Indeed, while a 3rdGen still stands out in the crowd with its timeless styling, the 4thGen just blends in with the rest of the bland sedans out there like the Taurus, Camry, and Accord.
You ask for hard facts as to what makes a 3rdGen great and point to the 4thGen's arguably superior performance. I say that if you bought a Maxima for performance, you were misled for it is not a performance car. It is a family sedan. Sadly, the 4thGen has become the chariot of high schoolers. The VE 5spd lives on as the Maxima for discerning Nissan enthusiasts who value quality, a dash of performance, styling, and uniqueness in their cars.
You can have your 4thGen. I am sticking with my VE 5spd. Good day, sir.
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