MyBlue92Maxima

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ive posted about this before, it's definitly not VTC's ive tried every check listed on the org for that , when the car isn't started for a day or 2 , as soon as the car is started it ticks like crazy, as the car warms up the tick dies down and goes away, then you can only hear it when the trottle is opened, at idle the tick is gone, im assuming that the oil isn't getting to the top of the engine fast enough on start / when the car isn't at idle, is there anyway to check if this is an oilpump problem or if it's just a lifter / rocker in one of the cylenders?

i just did a fresh oil change yesterday so it's not bad oil or anything like that

Jon94SE

What kind of oil are you using? Next time you change your oil try putting in this stuff called Rislone. I've heard good things about it for taking care of sticky lifters and such.

Michael

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what kind of filter are you using? Some filters do not have the anti-drain back valve and it can cause problems like this.

MyBlue92Maxima

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fram filter, it has the backflow valve thinger i believe.

Michael

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Take the Fram off and throw it away and never use one again. Buy the Toyota filter or another high quality filter.

I have heard nothing but bad things from fram filters.

It may be coincidence but I put one on my old car about a month after I got it. The car had no tick what so ever and within a week of putting the Fram on I developed the VTC tick.

mszilves

I hate to burst your bubble, but I had the exact same symptoms, and those are definitely symptoms of VTC's. I also tried all the VTC diagnostics before I got them replaced, and they weren't very accurate. From what I've also read in these forums, 90% of "lifter tick" noises are a result of bad VTCs for the VE30DE. The oil additives may help, but it looks like you will have to get the VTC's fixed/replaced.

MyBlue92Maxima

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vtc's shouldn't change noise while the car revs? im neerly positive it's lifters,

on another hand anyone have a picture of where the oil sending unit should be? i wanna tap a manual pressure reader in the line and see what my pressure is..

DanNY

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i wouldn't use the fram filter for a door stop.

Cliff Clavin

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If it isn't the VTCs (it likely is) than it's possible it is your timing chain guides are worn. The chain has some slack and is hitting something. I remember reading about this somewhere.

MyBlue92Maxima

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soo, it still is possible im getting lifter tick right? lol, cars pushing 185k now :O

internetautomar

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Possible? Yes.
Likely? no

89blackse

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my 89 VG does the same thing, not the VTC, its fram. I started to hear mine when I started to change my own oil (and used Fram till I meet the .org) instead of whatever they oil change place used.

Fram=ticking=

DanNY

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try using a napa gold or a wix oil filter.

Michael

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yes it is a good chance its the "lifters"...especially since it changes with RPM.

Do like Dan said...NAPA gold or WIX. I think the NAPA gold is a rebadged WIX. I know the Carquest filter is a WIX.

elusivemax93

im having the same ticking sound and i juz recently bought my maxima from someone else and it also has a fram which is a filter i dispise i dont use that cheap crap filter and like DanNY said i wouldnt even use it to prop my door open either fram = crap ive used mobile 1 syn blend filter and not had any problems from them with both the vg and ve motors ive had in the past 2 maximas ive had

internetautomar

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napa is rebadged WIX.

505max94se

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I also have a horrible lifter problem. When I bought the car I thought it was lifter noise but then people on the org told me that it's the vtc's. So I went ahead and replace/rebuilt both vtc's and the ticking/clacking is still present. In fact it just keeps getting worse. It makes my car sound like a POS.

I didn't know that a cheap oil filter was the main cause of this problem. When I replace the lifter(s) I'll get some toyota filters.

eric93SE

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Check to see if any of your exhaust manifold studs are broken/missing.

For lifters, try running a motor flush at your next oil change, make sure you read the instructions and use a new filter (cheap one) when doing the flush.

Cliff Clavin

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read my post again a little farther up

otherwise, it could be a lifter, I guess

Jon94SE

Yeah Sean, I never even thought about your filter contributing to your diesel clackness

super32

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would the Nissan OEM oil filter cause oil restriction as far as to cause lifter ticking?

Part Number: 15208-00003 (VG), 15208-00002 (VE)

Jon94SE

The OEM was discontinued, its the s***y fram filters ect. that contribute to the problem. Mine is finally starting to make a little noise, I think its the solinoids in my case though...

505max94se

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I'm 100% positive it's a lifter....I replaced all of the guides and tensioners when I did the vtc's.

caridez

I changed over to a K&N filter and 5-30 oil........ and the tick was gone.....Success!

sublunary

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ground the vtc and see if you still hear something

92 Max

I did my VTC's a while back, and I did the timing chain tensioner when I rebuilt them. I tested the VTC's as indicated in the Service Bulletin with ambiguous results. I also did the timing chain tensioner test, per the bulletin, and I think most of my problem with ticking was due to a bad tensioner that wasn't pumping up.

Duckman540i

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The best oil filter to use, to get rid of the ticking is the OEM Toyota Corolla one. It's $3 and change at the dealer. It's the 90915-YZZF2. Great little filter.

super32

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two things (I have a lifter tick also, VG):

What if I use the Toyota 90915-YZZF2 filter in a 91SE? Will it screw anything up?

Has anyone actually needed to change out their lifters in a VG? I don't think it is a "sticky" lifter because I've ran BG44K motor flush in there before (about 1yr ago), and I still have a tick.

89blackse

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Using reverse Nissan logic; after they discontinued the VE filter they said that the VG filter was the 'new' replacement for the VE filter. So if people fit the yota filter on their VE and the VG filter fits the VE then the yota filter should fit the VG.

Toyota=VE=VG then VG=Toyota

Now if anyone has done this please drop a line.

xx-Marshall-xx

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i thought the VE's didnt have lifters...

internetautomar

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it's used as a generic term kind of like Kleenex.
They are Hydraulic Lash Adjusters technically

xx-Marshall-xx

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i thought we had rocker arms and only 300ZX's have hydrolic lifters...

internetautomar

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cam actuates adjuster
adjuster actuates rocker arm
rocker arm actuates valve
valve crashes into piston and gets bent

xx-Marshall-xx

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hmmmm alright i had a friend explain to me at work

i see whats going on now