Nmax92

I finally got the auto trans off and about to put on the flywheel.
I came across a slight problem or if it is a problem. I ordered a new clutch kit, it came with the clutch, flexplate, alignment too and a small metal cyclinder(looks like a spacer).
My question is, does that metal spacer has a role to play with the installation? Is so, how? I plan on finishing the swap tomorrow and a full detailed write up to come. Thanks for your input guys.

Greeny

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I think you are talking about the throw out bearing...

Greeny

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Does it look like this?

Nmax92

no sorry, the cylinder is about 1 inch tall and has a diameter about 3/4" to 1". it fits on the end of the alignment tool that goes into the crankshaft. The cylinder came with the alignment tool

Greeny

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Can you get some pics of it?

Nmax92

sure,
how do i add a pic to the post?

Alex_V

That sounds like the input shaft bushing. That goes in the flywheel and the input shaft rests in it.

~Alex

goon9

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I had a ring like that when my clutch kit came. I chucked it.

Nmax92

Alex is right. its the pilot bearing. my problem is I have no clue where it goes. It doesn't even fit in the center of the flywheel. any idea guys?

goon9

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Pretty sure it's just a spacer possibly for a VQ.

It's not the pilot bearing. Just a spacer.

Greeny

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Check the stickies...

goon9

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I have a pic

Alex_V

Is the old bushing still in the FW?

~Alex

Greeny

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Post it up...

goon9

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is this it?

Greeny

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My clutch kit didn't have one of them..

goon9

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The kit that I had says 89 to 99. I'm quess it's to adapt it to a vq.

YOU DON'T NEED IT. SIMPLY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FIT ANY WHERE.

Greeny

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Well yeah,i figured i don't need it, being it wasn't in there,and my clutch has been installed for 30,000 miles now....

goon9

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I'm still waiting for Nmax92 to admit he couldn't figure it out

mtcookson

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Should be a pilot bushing and you need it in there for the alignment of the clutch (fits over that black tool pictured above). There is likely a metal ring sitting in the crank that needs to be pulled out for you to slide it in. Should look like this:

internetautomar

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it's the clutch pilot bushing, which as has been stated goes in the crankshaft.

Nmax92

mtcookson-the metal piece that you have in the pic is not on my crankshaft. the pilot bushing that I have is a bit too wide to fit into the crankshaft. there is nothing sticking out like that.

Therealgoon9 - Damn for real , I admit it. that damn thing had me screwed up for a sec. Does it have any value in the trans/installation at all?

Nmax92

one more thing I just remembered, on the torque converted there is a ring that looks like the pilot bushing, but it is welded on to the converter. I'm thinking I should cut off the ring on the converter and use it in the intall.

mtcookson

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That's weird... but it will make it easier anyways. The pilot bushing should just fit right into the crank itself. It will be snug but will go in there. Be sure to have the flywheel off and such and try tapping it in there. Unless by some chance there is already one there it'll go in.

Nmax92

Yeah tell me about it. The pilot bushing is exactly the same size as the opening in the crankshaft, no room to even hammer it in. I will have to break out my trust Dremel cutting wheel. I'll let you guys know what happens tomorrow.

Alex_V

Id say put it in the freezer, and use something to heat up the crank shaft.

OH and REPLACE THE REAR MAIN seal!!! I thought mine looked fine, 4K miles later its leaking badly

~Alex

Nmax92

Update: The swap is done.......well...99% done.
I have some issues.
1. I get vibration when its in gear(clutch pedal out)
2. It takes a little bit of work to get it into first sometimes.
3. My speedo does work at all.
4. There is a transmission oil leaking from both sides of the trans where the axels go into. this I know how to fix the other issues I need help in.

Damn!! when I started the car I noticed alot of vibrations. WTF.

Nmax92

one more thing, when I'm driving I'm getting a grinding feeling and noise from the front. could this be happening because of a misaligned clutch? if not what then.

goon9

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Where did you get the trans? Sounds like bad bearings.. And bad seals. You need to be extra careful when installing the axles not to mess up the seals.

Is the flywheel new?

Nmax92

I bought it from a max.org member. when you mean bearings..do you mean the bearings on the wheel hub? the flywheel isn't new, but I got it resurfaced. The seals are new from nissan. could the axels(from the auto) be too short for the 5speed trans?

mygreenmax94- did come across problems with the speedometer when you did your swap? I rewired the harnesses, the car starts, I have reverse lights is ther someting I'm missing?

Nmax92

what oil should I use for the gear box. I did a search and came across some posts where using 20w-50 engine oil is best for the gear box. others say use gear oil. what do I use for the best performance of the trans. is there a difference in the axles from a 92 gxe auto and 1991 5speed trans?

Alex_V

DO NOT USE GL5 OIL! It will eat your tranny up. Use napa GL4 only stuff if you cant wait. If you can order some GM syncromesh fluid. The Syncromesh is better and similar price. Thats what Im using in my 240sx and will in the maxima soon.

~Alex

Jeff92se

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Auto = no pilot bushing
Manual = pilot bushing to help align the clutch disc. It's needed.

It's a press fit into the crank shaft as noted above. I think the auto had some weird thing pressed into the crank that needed to be pulled out.

I remember having to do this on Cliff Clavin's auto VE30DE JDM motor swap (that came auto) Had to pry out that funky bushing.

Nmax92

thats funny, when I took off the torque converter I did notice a bushing on the end of the converter. I'm going to cut off that bushing from the torque converter and use it to aligne the clutch. The bushing that came with the clutch is a bit bigger.

that must explain why I'm getting vibration when I drive, right?

mtcookson

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That bushing should go right in with some tapping. If it seems too big, there must be something in the end of the crank still that is keeping the pilot bushing from going in, like in the picture above. That must be removed before putting the pilot bushing in, otherwise it simply won't go in.

Either way though, the clutch alignment is simply to get the input shaft to slide in smoothly and get the tranny bolted up. If you have the tranny bolted up already its aligned.

Nmax92

The trans is bolted up already. so that means the vibration that I'm getting from the car maybe due to the wrongs axles <--- I'll explain.

Last year I bought a set of axles for the car over the internet when it was an auto. when I recieved them the invoice said they were for an Altima the same year of my max. I sent an email to the company and they told me that the axles for the altima would fit my max without any problems, they did fit.

What I'm guessing is that axles for the altima would not fit a 91 vg 5speed trans. This is probably why I'm getting a fluid leak with a grinding noise and feeling. what do you fellas think?
P.s. I'm trying to get all the kinks out so that I can doa full detailed write up

internetautomar

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the VG max and the altima DO share axles.

Nmax92

axles for the auto or 5 speed trans or both. for some reason my axles are not fitting all the way in against the seals.

Greeny

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You have the wrong alxes..Get 5 speed vg axles...

Nmax92

i already got the 5 speed axles. I'm gonna get them put on monday coming. (keeping my fingers crossed)
MyGreenMax94 - do you recall if how many harnesses are supposed to be connected after the swap.
I did the rewire so the car can start and the reverse lights. and for the cruise control. am I missing anything?