So yesterday I finnaly got the cailper on the car after playing around with it and having no clue how it works i had also looked at the old caliper and just reverse it and put it back together the way it was. I was playing with it like it was a puzzle cause i had no clue how it worked. I also did not know that the 15mm bolt and the part that was connected to the caliper goes on to the new caliper. I finnaly reversed it and put the caliper back the way it was then I noticed how it was then I transfered all of that stuff on that part to the new caliper. I put the new caliper together then i put it on the rotor then I noticed there was a gap between the brakes and the rotor the caliper sat in fine it was the brake sliding and the rotor sliding so i pulled the handbrake hoping that it will clamp down the rotor and stiffin up the rotors. The brakes were not that tight cause the brake fluid was not pumped by the pedel so then I remember that i had to pump the brake pedel so the fluid could go through the lines then through the caliper then the caliper can lock up to the rotor. I then put the car in Neutral then the car can roll back then I quickly pull the handbrake and now they wer stiff and back to normal then the car stopped rolling so the calipers are working.

 

Today i wanted to bleed the brakes cause the car had air in the brake system and the car is not stoping right but the car is stoping better then before thats becuse I changed the calipers and did some bleeding so it's better then before just slightly. I add more brake fluid then all of sudden the master cylinder was leaking bad and i am very pissed. i also looked at the side that i had the C.A. issue that the brake hose were pinched so those hose were also small stupid DODO ZONE gave me a wrong and small hose got worked some how and started leaking. I went to DODO ZONE to take back the brake hose and the Master cylinder. I ordered the hose and got them today and they were the right ones finnaly. I have ordered the Master cylinder and i should get them later today. The car blues still continue...

 

Only reason I said that was because previously you actually didnt follow what everyone (including myself) instructed you to do and tried to go a different route trying to do it faster and more efficiently when in reality we were telling you the right way and faster way. What happened in reality is that you ended up taking much longer than you wanted and could've finished faster if you followed directions that you asked for but thats the past. We're on the MC issue now, and you need to make sure you also mention key things like that so no one says anything. If you dont mention that you clamped the hose nice and tight...you're gonna look like a dodo yourself.

 

Today I got the Master cylinder but my prevoius resiovor was also leaking so I just turned it back in and said I would like to add more money to the order so I could get the new Master Cylinder with the resovior because there would be no point in having the leak in the resovior when it's not supposed to leak.
I will have to wait for it for 3 days before I could start the bleeding process if necessary.

 

My caliper was also bad so i thought replacing the while thing would be good. Also if you hear that grinding nose it's the caliper i now that because i listen too it very carefully I was telling my bro to back the car up slowly and it was coming from the caliper everytime we would back up with or without the brake being depressed.

 

The Master cylinder has arrived at AutoZone i went to pick it up and It's not nissan brand it's BENDIX i bench bleed the cylinder then bleed the calipers all 4 of them and the rear calipers had no fluid in there so i had to at least add 1-1/2 off the brake fluid to get the fluid flowing to the rear (THE LEFT REAR CHOOSE THIS ONE AS A OPTION) but they both were bone dry. I got the fluid going now I had to get the fluid at the MAX level. Now i just got everything back to level now I had to bleed the right rear just as i was attemptimg to bleed it then strong pissing noise that was air there now I bleed all 4 calipers then I had test the car and theres somewhat a improvement. I drove the car again but it does not stop as it's supposed too so I guess i will bleed some more.

 

interesting...

 

can you please explain your bench bleeding process in detail to me?

 

Paragraphs are your friend.

~Alex

 

To bench bleed MC I plugged the two holes that are on the MC and put the two tubes on the plugs and then I fill it up with brake fluid then i had another person behind the wheel to have the brake pedal on the floor then i pushed against the brake booster and the master cylinder in place the the driver slowly let's off the brake pedal and the MC spits up the fluid then slowly sits on it's position. I then bolt the MC down and add the fluid if it's nessesary.
If there is anything wrong let me know.

 

I also did the bleeding for the calipers so now if i am right it's RR,LR,RF,LF
start out further away from the MC then close in.

I also noticed evertime i start the car up with the hood opened and I am looking at the MC from the inside i am also pumping the brake pedal and see there is fluid going down and then goes back up then stays up. If the MC is doing that that means I need to add more right. or it's the reserve system.

 

I just finished bleeding the calipers and the car felt great but I had to stop fast so I slammed my brakes and then guess what the brakes felt soft again
I am like now what the brakes seem like they were never even been bleed so parked the car back on the driveway and looked at the side were I had bought the brake hose not even a week yet so, yes they were pinched and they were leaking the stupid AUTOZONE hose are cheap atleast they were wider then the last ones I am to going to and get the new hose from nissan and will I have to bleed ? Again I am assuming air has probley got back in cause the leaking hole in the hose.

 

I had so much conflict in this work I had to get a new caliper then I had no fluid in the brake lines I had to fill up the brake lines with lots of brake fluid and several bleeding procedures and get the air out I thought I was never going to get it done. I also done the bleeding procedure that was introduced in the thread here that took lot's brake fluid. I thought to myself I might be doing it wrong but I found out I had no fluid in there at all also kept bleeding tell I saw fluid coming out with pressure so I knew that I am on the right track. I also wasted like 2-3 brake fluid bottles because there was nothing coming out because the system was bone dry. I also don't no about bleeding the calipers but I got it done. I also did another method my friend told me was (The pressure bleeding) that's when there's one person pumping the brake pedel 3 times the third time you hold it down then just crack the bleeder open slightly and the fluid shoots out (like the water fountain in your schools) and close it immeditly so the air will not get in there and do not open it to much or air will get in again. I did this bleeding procedure today it was fast and it was all 4 sides and the RR,LF,LR,RF with the new brake hose and the car is back up and running. ONCE AGAIN PROPS FOR ALL THAT HELPED.

 

That would be the PROPER way to do it. It really isn't that hard...WTH were you doing before??

~Alex

 

I supposed that I was just opening up the bleeder valve to get some fluid out then there was hardly any in the system to due the major leak so I was just taking it out and waiting for it to come out then after about 2 bottles of brake fluids the fluid started flowing and thats when I just opended it up and then I waited for the fluid to come out and I was watching the resovior so it does not get empty and I did this to each wheel as it was stated in the thread. I also filled it backup if it where to get empty.

 

I dont know what to say but I'm gonna advice you to somehow try to watch someone do something before you try to imagine how to do it. Its just more efficient that way. Hell check you tube "how to..." and maybe there'll be some videos. Anyway congrats on getting your car running.

 

The reason bench bleading was brought up is because even if you manage to get the bleader screw free out of that caliper and bleed it, you might still feel a low pedal. It is possible to bleed the caliper while it is mounted in the car. You can simply disconnect the lines from the caliper and use the two red plastic things that came with the caliper to plug the ports on the side. You have someone sit in the car and slowly depress the pedal while you hold the plugs in with your hand. you will feel the pressure build until it sprays past the plugs. When the pedal is let back up make sure to hold the plugs in so no air is sucked in. Keep going until only fluid comes out that has no foam/air in it. You will be able to feel the difference in your fingers as that air content bleeds off. You may also see air floating up to the top in your reservior. This is normal. It will stop as all the air is flushed out of the inside of the master.

 

I am dumb

replace the word "Caliper" used above with "Master"

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Hmmm. I'd call your original process a slow bleed! Seriously, go by a service manual, preferably a FSM (Nissan factory service manual) and/or a Haynes manual for your car and throughly review the pertinent section before you try your next repair. It may save you a few weeks of your time.

Mike