Ok so this ve isnt in the greatest shape but for parts its great he wants 1200 but he told me he is takin offers and wants to sell it soon. I noticed the engine mounts seem to be shot the engine hangs down to the left see pics. Here are pics link.







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the engine hangs down because the crossmember is broken.

I have a couple of them btw if you need one. I will look later to see if I still have them...pay shipping and its yours.

 

Wow, not bad actually but 1200 seems a bit steep to me. try going for like 700-1000. Its got some kick *** tires on it aka the same ones I got.

No front pics?

 

1200 is WAY too high.
the front crossmember is busted, the drivers seat is trashed, front seal is leaking. It's fairly clear to me that the PO didn't do much to keep the car up.
it's realistically a $2-500 car. 500 being generous IMO.

 

well in the condition its in its a great parts car for the 5 speed swap and se tails and spoiler. The wheels and tires cant be to old at all they are Goodyear asurance Triple Tread and tirerack has them for 750 with rims shipped. I was think of startin at 500 and seein wat he says...

 

I didnt know VE and VG used the same oil filter....

 

It's a pity people don't take better care of their cars. I'll never understand that. But yeah, 1200 is way too much for it. For that price I would expect to drive away in it- not have the engine fall out half way down the road.

 

lol i hope it doesnt fall out if I end up gettin it I need to drive it 12 miles to get it to my driveway

 

just put some tape to secure it from falling. gotta love duct tape

 

lol true tat duck tape will for sure hold up that engine with no problem

 

So what's his screen name?

 

no idea I would like to know too.. its at a dealers lot

 

so I offered the guy ( that S.O.B indian) car sales guy 400 and he said no get out of here and I asked him honestly how he expects to sell it for 1200 and he started to bullsh*t me sayin that the engine waz JDM rebuilt and i laughed. He called up his guy (maybe his boss) and he said no lower then 850 so I told him thanks and I walked. I plan on goin back with alex and john in 2 weeks and gettin the car for 600 or so. That guy will relize that he cant sell it to anyone. It has rear and front seals leakin, bad power steering rack, bad crossmember, bad front end and hood, broken ebrake, bad starter, air bag, check engine lights were blinking and the passenger rear window regulator was bad. So I really dont see this guys sellin this car to anyone...

 

It's not even LEGAL to sell most likely.

 

well dont know about that but I do know with air bag light blinking its not gonna sell to anyone unless they part it out... like I plan to do...

 

I wouldnt give him 600 even. Honestly I wouldnt pay more that $400...and it would be a stretch for me to pay that.

 

haha, it looks like that engine was just pulled up from a swamp.

Why do you even want that car? It looks terrible to be honest, almost every surface in the interior looks like it was vandalized with razor blades.

Thing probably hasn't had an oil change in 189,000 miles.

 

I want it for a VE 5 Speed tranny swap into my VG. The tranny in my VG really sucks, plus its a AUTO

 

I paid $500 for my parts car 3 years ago. It was driveable, but had a minor front end collision making the right fender, hood and bumper cover unusable. I ended up using almost everything else usable from it for the '94 GXE I'm currently using as a winter ride, so the cost worked out. If I had to do it again, I'd shoot for less.

 

do some research and see how long they have had that car, if they had it for a while, you can jack the price down very low..... with the air bag light on, it probably wont sell.... they will probably send it to an auction and get $400 for it and they know that....... first of all the front and rear main seals are leaking, and the power steering fluid is leaking.. i am 99% sure.... did you hear the car run????? most likely it had the original coils in it, and they are probably shot...... all you have to do is act like you know what your talking about.... trust me, i work at a dealership....the salesmen will lie to you, so just make sure you know what your talking about and make them feel stupid.....

 

is it in illinois or missouri?
Illinois, there's no law about what condition a car has to be in when its sold, doesn't matter who is selling it.

 

Looks like a bad idea to me.

If your looking for just a 5 swap from a ve. There are alot of blown VE's out there with good tranny's, those go for under 350.

I've bought one 94ve blown motor good tranny 300. Split the cost with a bud because he wanted the leather.

Most recent was a 93ve blown motor for 250.

They are out there, check craigslist.

If this has under 150,000 300 would sound right to me.

 

its missouri, and the car does drive but very rough VTC click so loud

 

Dibs on the center console! Only not really...

Looks like some parts would be good but if you only need it for the 5 speed you can probably pull a junkyard one for much cheaper, or just find a blown engined VE for cheaper. Anything over $500 I'd say is rediculous.

 

Yea id say 500, 600maybe just because of the rims/spoiler.

Such a perfect donor. Stupid dealer.I should buy it and fix it and sell the VG....

~Alex

 

So, did you bring that up with the guy when you were negotiating the price? Like mentioned before, just start listing off all the problems with it, most of all being the snapped crossmember. There's no way that they're going to sell that car for $1,200! By the way whoever owned that car before that was on the .org should be ashamed of themselves...

 

He did, and I don't think the dealer was willing to accept less then $850 even then. But lets see what a few more weeks will do.

~Alex

 

Wow, that's ridiculous, you think that they'd want to get rid of it and take what they could get.

 

Yep, moronic dealer.

Man I'm really interested in it now....if only it wasn't so expensive...I want to drive it and blow the motor or something and get it for $100 hehehe

~Alex

 

Yeah, from the looks of it, it probabaly wouldn't take much to break something.

 

Why not just fix up the ve while you drive your vg? You would need to use those rusted ve axles and tranny mounts anyway. Jack up the front end (and engine), replace crossmember, control arms, ball joints, bushings, mounts, axles, fix the oil leak, put in good oil and filter and ground vtcs if needed. It'll probably drive well. Unless there's other problems not diagnosed by pics. I guess that is a good amount of work, but at least you could use that consult cable

 

If I didnt already have my max I would so buy that max and fix it. But my max is in way better condition. Im hoping to get it in two weeks, I am gonna go back with alex v.

 

I'd pay him 1000 or less for it, but thats just me....^_^ -Ben

 

take it for a test drive and do a couple burnouts.
then it has bald tires too, if you didn't render the car immobile in the process.
Call Missouri's department of motor vehicles and ask them if a DEALER can sell a car that has major structural damage (broken crossmember= major structural damage) then go back in and tell him to sell you the car before you report him.

 

lol that’s a good idea... I have drove it and it drive horrible but tranny shifts great, at 60mph the whole car feels like its going to fall apart.

 

That's because it IS about to fall apart...

 

 

lol yup... I emailed Missouri Department of Vehicles and they are looking into it but the vehicle has to...

You must provide the following to the vehicle buyer:

Properly assigned Certificate of Title:
Safety inspection certificate, less than 60 days old;
An emissions inspection not more than 60 days old, if you reside in St. Louis City or the following counties: Franklin, Jefferson, St. Charles, or St. Louis; and
Lien Release (DOR-4809), notarized, if applicable.