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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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fuel injectors

guys I've been away for sometime from the org...but can honestly say...they are really dedicated members here, and I know I can come here for help. Heres the deal. I have my #5 injector out(mpg and it running terrible) and its time,.. for the third time. You see..I've had the max since 1992 and she a 90. Been with me for a while(my wife and kids really know I'm ol' school), and cannot part ways..anyways..A friend at a local junk yard told me about a 94 w/ a sohc..checked it out for inj. harness because mine is "Green" Found that the harness was different on this year. Doesn't have the small disgusting metal clip. Has a nice, clean, and well fitted deustch connector. planning on yanking the entire rail, harness and injectors....now if anyone knows what
i'm talking about...the ???? is...Will these injectors work? are they the same as the other ones for the 89-92 sohc and the only difference is were it connects. C'mon VG guys help a brother out...also how do post pics so I too can show off my 17 year old girl. Thanks
Old Apr 21, 2007 | 01:45 AM
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Good luck getting the junkyard to part the engine out if it is a good engine,most will not..But if they will,then yes your idea should work..but new a injector/s would be best..[yeah,i know...$$$$$]

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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 02:47 AM
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if you really want to that it should work, you take the chance of them being bad or going bad also.
Old May 20, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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already adjustment the problem?
Old May 20, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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already adjustment the problem?
go post in the off-topic section if that's the best you can do is post a nonsensical phrase on 4 different threads
Old May 21, 2007 | 06:10 AM
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Hi there. Nice to hear you've had the ride for 15 years. I was in Gainesville, FL 2 weeks ago for work, and I quite enjoyed that area of Florida. The taxi drivers had good stories.

Anyway, my guess just based on experience is they may not work. The injector ports are different from yours (yours are pointed, the 93-94s are flat). There's gotta be a bunch of 89-92 junked Maximas at the local wreckers, or junkers where you can pull the part yourself. For me when my injectors went dead, I took a chance at a used rail because it's best to replace the injectors all at once; $50 for a used rail, intake gaskets, new fuel hoses and 4 hours vs. $1000+ for 6 new units sounded a lot better for an aging car. So far, I've had no problems. I just make sure to always use premium fuel to keep the injectors clean, and they've held up well. Good luck. If you do find a rail, have a multimeter on hand to make sure the ohms (resistance) on each injectors are within specifications (i.e. 11-14 ohms).

As for posting pics, go on a free host site like Imageshack or likewise, upload the pics from your hard-drive, and then they will give you a link that shows [img]LINK[/img]. Copy and paste it to your message body, and you're done.
Old May 22, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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guys I've been away for sometime from the org...but can honestly say...they are really dedicated members here, and I know I can come here for help. Heres the deal. I have my #5 injector out(mpg and it running terrible) and its time,.. for the third time. You see..I've had the max since 1992 and she a 90. Been with me for a while(my wife and kids really know I'm ol' school), and cannot part ways..anyways..A friend at a local junk yard told me about a 94 w/ a sohc..checked it out for inj. harness because mine is "Green" Found that the harness was different on this year. Doesn't have the small disgusting metal clip. Has a nice, clean, and well fitted deustch connector. planning on yanking the entire rail, harness and injectors....now if anyone knows what
i'm talking about...the ???? is...Will these injectors work? are they the same as the other ones for the 89-92 sohc and the only difference is were it connects. C'mon VG guys help a brother out...also how do post pics so I too can show off my 17 year old girl. Thanks
that 17 year old girl... is she your daughter..... he he

i know that i can get VG injectors from the dealership for about $110 each..... i get a little discount since i work at another dealer.... if you would like them, either email me or PM me....... i asked the dealer and they said the two different colors for the injectors are both the same part number now.....
Old May 22, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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Anyone used injectors from Napa or Carques or any of the other parts chains? If so, are they quality products?
Old May 22, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Fuel Injector Misfire

I own a 1994 nissan maxima. It was running fine in the morning, and when I went to it and started it around lunch, it started running rough. I just recently took it into the dealership. I have been told that there is multiple fuel injector misfire, that the problem is electrical. What was funny is that the sercvice guy also told me a $200 fuel cleaning may help it. Funny that a mechanical fix would fix an electrical problem?? 5 years ago a single fuel injector was replaced no problem for around $400. NOW I am told that ALL the fuel injectors have to be replaced at $1200. The service guy said that he could replace one of them, and another one will fail within the next couple days, and so on and so forth until I just replace all of them. This does not really make sense to me. Is there anyone that can shed some light on this subject?
Old May 25, 2007 | 06:38 AM
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Anyone used injectors from Napa or Carques or any of the other parts chains? If so, are they quality products?
if they are new, you should be fine on the 93-94 VG ones. 89-92 VG new ones are crapola in the aftermarket. Personally I'd stick with the bosch new ones that I know will work.
Old May 28, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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if they are new, you should be fine on the 93-94 VG ones. 89-92 VG new ones are crapola in the aftermarket. Personally I'd stick with the bosch new ones that I know will work.
Wait...why would '92 injectors be different from 93 ones? I just paid for 6 barely-used '92 injectors...will they not work?

All 3rd gen mid-life updates were made in '92.
Old May 29, 2007 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by maxitech
All 3rd gen mid-life updates were made in '92.
i noticed a few under-the-hood differences between the JY '89s and my '90. My temp sender had a different connector than the '89, and also my injector connectors are way different from the '89. And the PCV hose looked different (molded vs flexible?)
Old May 29, 2007 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by maxitech
Wait...why would '92 injectors be different from 93 ones? I just paid for 6 barely-used '92 injectors...will they not work?

All 3rd gen mid-life updates were made in '92.
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I posted pics a while back that showed the difference on the injectors.
and I answered your PM.
Old May 29, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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I own a 1994 nissan maxima. It was running fine in the morning, and when I went to it and started it around lunch, it started running rough. I just recently took it into the dealership. I have been told that there is multiple fuel injector misfire, that the problem is electrical. What was funny is that the sercvice guy also told me a $200 fuel cleaning may help it. Funny that a mechanical fix would fix an electrical problem?? 5 years ago a single fuel injector was replaced no problem for around $400. NOW I am told that ALL the fuel injectors have to be replaced at $1200. The service guy said that he could replace one of them, and another one will fail within the next couple days, and so on and so forth until I just replace all of them. This does not really make sense to me. Is there anyone that can shed some light on this subject?
He could be right. I had one fail on me and I spent about what you did to replace it but the next one didn't wait five years - it waited 2 days. This wasn't done at a dealership but at a mechanic who I trust. He recommended the same thing so I bit the bullet and replaced the five remaining. It was a lot of money but I need to keep this car a few more years.

The org has helped me fix a lot of stuff on my Max but injectors are definitely over my head. If you have the mechanical ability you could always try to do it yourself. The guys here would help and if you donate you could use the search function which would lead to all kinds of good info.

Oh, and tell him to stick his "fuel cleaning" where the sun don't shine.

Or maybe just "no thank you" I guess lol.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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Sorry to bring this back, but I am new here and I am not allowed to post new topics yet.

A friend of mine has a 90 Maxima with the VG30E engine. When it is started it sounds like it is running on 2 or 3 cylinders. It revs like it is only on 2 or 3 cylinders. I guessed an ignition problem and we tested the wires and plugs, cap and rotor are new, everything checks out. With the engine running, removing sparkplug wires, 1,3,5,4 doesn't have much if any effect on the way it runs. Then my thoughts turned to a fuel problem. From what I am reading above, the 90 fuel injectors are junk. Is there a cheaper alternative to dealer injectors? Would having the current injectors cleaned be pissing in the wind? Thanks for any help.

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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 08:28 AM
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anyone know what size injectors go in the 90 model?
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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I dont think it will run on 2, 3 by just a bit though... mine once ran on 3 or 4 and the poor engine was hanging on for dear life trying not to stall, although 4 was way better because it was balanced and didnt shake - V4.

Most people here will tell you that remanufactured or cleaned injectors wont last for very long, and that its better to go with new ones despite the expense. Have you tested the injectors themselves?
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Originally Posted by TurboMiles
Sorry to bring this back, but I am new here and I am not allowed to post new topics yet.

A friend of mine has a 90 Maxima with the VG30E engine. When it is started it sounds like it is running on 2 or 3 cylinders. It revs like it is only on 2 or 3 cylinders. I guessed an ignition problem and we tested the wires and plugs, cap and rotor are new, everything checks out. With the engine running, removing sparkplug wires, 1,3,5,4 doesn't have much if any effect on the way it runs. Then my thoughts turned to a fuel problem. From what I am reading above, the 90 fuel injectors are junk. Is there a cheaper alternative to dealer injectors? Would having the current injectors cleaned be pissing in the wind? Thanks for any help.

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as you have read the injectors are a fairly common failure on the 3rd gens.
Cleaning them may help in the short run, however the chance of failure also increases as well. There are cheap new ones out there but they are as bad as rebuilts.
your best option option is to get the Bosch injectors which is the factory installed part.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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No I haven't checked the injectors. I would be checking for resistance between pins and looking for 11-14 ohms.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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are the stock injectors the same bosch injectors that you are suggest I replace them with?

really the only reason I ask about cleaning them is to see if the engine begins to run correctly after cleaning. if it is just a simple as the injector is not delivering enough fuel because it is clogged and not because it is broken internally.
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Originally Posted by TurboMiles
are the stock injectors the same bosch injectors that you are suggest I replace them with?

really the only reason I ask about cleaning them is to see if the engine begins to run correctly after cleaning. if it is just a simple as the injector is not delivering enough fuel because it is clogged and not because it is broken internally.
yes and good luck
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